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Chin Music 22nd August 2013 09:06

So that's 14 so far this series. Certainly Swann hasn't covered himself with glory although in fairness a couple of those chances were pretty tough. Prior has only dropped one catch despite having a far from pristine series with the gloves.

DoStopItAggers 22nd August 2013 10:24

Would be interesting if impossible to find out how our catches:drops ratio has changed over time, and how it compares against other Test nations, so that we know what the benchmark is.

Out of those 14, 5 are described by CricInfo as being tough chances, so we're running at an average of 2 dropped catches per Test which should have been taken. That does seem quite high...

Always surprised Trott never appears in the slip cordon to the fast men. He seems to be as good as any in that area and is only an average outfielder. I seem to remember a Warwickshire fan on here some time ago saying he was always rated really highly as a slip at Edgbaston?

Zebroston Chase 22nd August 2013 10:32

Was it Kim? He rates all of Warwickshire everywhere.

DoStopItAggers 22nd August 2013 11:28

It worked for Ashley Giles...

1000yardstare 20th February 2014 17:09

Ashes in Australia

Root to Bailey on 17 dropped Bell - made 17 more runs

Panesar to Bailey on 10 dropped Panesar - made 43 runs
Swann to Clarke on 18 dropped Root - made 130 runs
Swann to Clarke on 91 missed stumping Prior - (39 runs)
Panesar to Haddin on 5 dropped Carberry - made 113 runs
Stokes to Haddin on 51 no ball - (67 runs)

Bresnan to Warner on 37 dropped Bresnan - made 23 runs
Swann to Warner on 13 missed stumping Prior - made 101 runs
Anderson to Rogers on 26 dropped Prior - made 28 runs
Swann to Warner on 89 missed stumping Prior - (23 runs)
Bresnan to Watson on 103 dropped Bell - 0 runs


Bresnan to Smith on 7 dropped Anderson - made 19 runs
Bresnan to Johnson on 2 dropped Anderson - made 0 runs
Broad to Rogers on 19 Bairstow didn't go for the catch - (97 runs)
Stokes to Warner on 22 dropped Cook - made 3 runs
Broad to Rogers on 81 dropped Bairstow - made 19 runs

Stokes to Lyon on 0 dropped Anderson - made 0 runs

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2013 run outs by teams

Eng - 6 by Eng fielders - 3 Eng batsmen run out
Ind - 6/3
Zim - 5/1
SA - 5/6
Aus - 4/7
Pak - 4/7
SL - 3/1
WI - 2/3
NZ - 2/4
Ban - 1/3

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 21st February 2014 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 616552)
Ashes in Australia

Root to Bailey on 17 dropped Bell - made 17 more runs

Panesar to Bailey on 10 dropped Panesar - made 43 runs
Swann to Clarke on 18 dropped Root - made 130 runs
Swann to Clarke on 91 missed stumping Prior - (39 runs)
Panesar to Haddin on 5 dropped Carberry - made 113 runs
Stokes to Haddin on 51 no ball - (67 runs)

Bresnan to Warner on 37 dropped Bresnan - made 23 runs
Swann to Warner on 13 missed stumping Prior - made 101 runs
Anderson to Rogers on 26 dropped Prior - made 28 runs
Swann to Warner on 89 missed stumping Prior - (23 runs)
Bresnan to Watson on 103 dropped Bell - 0 runs


Bresnan to Smith on 7 dropped Anderson - made 19 runs
Bresnan to Johnson on 2 dropped Anderson - made 0 runs
Broad to Rogers on 19 Bairstow didn't go for the catch - (97 runs)
Stokes to Warner on 22 dropped Cook - made 3 runs
Broad to Rogers on 81 dropped Bairstow - made 19 runs

Stokes to Lyon on 0 dropped Anderson - made 0 runs

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2013 run outs by teams

Eng - 6 by Eng fielders - 3 Eng batsmen run out
Ind - 6/3
Zim - 5/1
SA - 5/6
Aus - 4/7
Pak - 4/7
SL - 3/1
WI - 2/3
NZ - 2/4
Ban - 1/3

Drops

Look away MF.

Prior 4
Anderson 3
Bell 2
Bairstow 2
Panesar 1
Carberry 1
Bresnan 1
Root 1
Cook 1

1000yardstare 21st February 2014 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother (Post 616571)
Drops

Look away MF.

Prior 4
Anderson 3
Bell 2
Bairstow 2
Panesar 1
Carberry 1
Bresnan 1
Root 1
Cook 1

Prior 191
Root 130
Bairstow 116
Carberry 113
Stokes 67
Panesar 43
Bresnan 23
Anderson 19
Bell 17
Cook 3

JG_ 21st February 2014 00:48

^ Runs that they've cost?

1000yardstare 21st February 2014 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG_ (Post 616577)
^ Runs that they've cost?

Yes.

Michelle Fivefer 21st February 2014 15:26

Look again, gbg.

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 21st February 2014 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer (Post 616659)
Look again, gbg.

Didn't have you down as a GoJo fan.

oldandfat 21st February 2014 17:03

Catches win matches

We missed 16 the bowlers only took a total of 55 wickets.
Oh if only we had held all our chances on the first day..........

sanskritsimon 22nd February 2014 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 616576)
Prior 191
Root 130
Bairstow 116
Carberry 113
Stokes 67
Panesar 43
Bresnan 23
Anderson 19
Bell 17
Cook 3

Prior dropped. Root dropped. Bairstow and Carberry about to be dropped.

1000yardstare 14th June 2014 23:43

A stat came up today re Cook

96 catches 52 drops 64.86%

Wish they would have stats for all players.

Good idea for England's fielding coach to be a sub when someone goes off. How long before some team complains about that?

Ali TT 15th June 2014 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 629706)
A stat came up today re Cook

96 catches 52 drops 64.86%

Wish they would have stats for all players.

Good idea for England's fielding coach to be a sub when someone goes off. How long before some team complains about that?

Anderson's percentage was similar. Think its something of a contested stat though.

JG_ 15th June 2014 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 629706)
A stat came up today re Cook

96 catches 52 drops 64.86%

Wish they would have stats for all players.

Good idea for England's fielding coach to be a sub when someone goes off. How long before some team complains about that?

Yes, I thought that was rather dodgy...

1000yardstare 27th June 2014 00:42

I couldn't find any dropped catches in the 1st Test.
2nd Test

7.6 - Should have used a review, would have hit the stumps and have been overturned
Plunkett to Sangakkara nicks outside edge as bat hits the ground, no one appealed.


Plunkett to Jayawardene 6 dropped Bell - 16 runs
Plunkett to Sangakkara 27 dropped Prior -
Jordan to Sangakkara 57 dropped Ali - 52 runs
Broad to Pradeep 7 dropped Ballance - 6 runs
Anderson to Karunaratne 4 dropped Jordan - 41 runs
Broad to Jayawardene 79 dropped Bell - 0 runs
Plunkett to Mathews 84 dropped Plunkett - 76 runs

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 27th June 2014 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 632337)
I couldn't find any dropped catches in the 1st Test.
2nd Test

7.6 - Should have used a review, would have hit the stumps and have been overturned
Plunkett to Sangakkara nicks outside edge as bat hits the ground, no one appealed.


Plunkett to Jayawardene 6 dropped Bell - 16 runs
Plunkett to Sangakkara 27 dropped Prior -
Jordan to Sangakkara 57 dropped Ali - 52 runs
Broad to Pradeep 7 dropped Ballance - 6 runs
Anderson to Karunaratne 4 dropped Jordan - 41 runs
Broad to Jayawardene 79 dropped Bell - 0 runs
Plunkett to Mathews 84 dropped Plunkett - 76 runs

Catches dropped off bowling

Plunkett 3
Broad 2
Jordan 1
Anderson 1

Catches dropped

Bell 2
Jordan 1
Ballance 1
Plunkett 1
Prior 1
Ali 1

1000yardstare 27th June 2014 14:33

Since Collingwood retired
(updated from other posts on this thread)

Drops

21 - Swann
20 - Prior
14 - Cook
12 - Anderson
11 - Strauss
9 - Bell
7 - Bresnan
6 - Trott
4 - Pietersen, Root, Panesar
3 - Finn, Broad
2 - Tremlett, Bairstow
1 - Morgan, Elstone, Ali, Carberry, Ballance, Jordan, Plunkett

Bowlers who had catches dropped

31 - Swann
30 - Anderson, Broad
10 - Bresnan
5 - Tremlett, Finn, Panesar
3 - Plunkett
2 - Patel, Stokes
1 - Bopara, Onions, Pietersen, Root, Jordan

Ali TT 27th June 2014 14:55

Swann got back what he gave out then. So much for the bowlers' union


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