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Zebroston Chase 1st February 2015 09:03

Ha ha ha. India? Really? Have they seen those boys field?

Chin Music 1st February 2015 09:13

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Originally Posted by Steve "The Zebra" Smith (Post 654974)
Ha ha ha. India? Really? Have they seen those boys field?

I rather think fanboyz with laptops have been responsible for that vote.

sharky 1st February 2015 09:20

Either that or in trying to navigate the new look cricinfo they've managed to vote in a poll whilst trying to do something completely different. It's horrendous.

Michelle Fivefer 1st February 2015 12:12

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Originally Posted by Chin Music (Post 654978)
I rather think fanboyz with laptops have been responsible for that vote.

Indian fans are certainly very prolific on Cricinfo. They also proliferate the Guardian BTL, talking about India when India weren't even playing.

Presumably most voters voted for their own nation but England fans, ever objective, voted for South Africa and New Zealand.

Ali TT 1st February 2015 12:43

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Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer (Post 655017)
Indian fans are certainly very prolific on Cricinfo. They also proliferate the Guardian BTL, talking about India when India weren't even playing.

Presumably most voters voted for their own nation but England fans, ever objective, voted for South Africa and New Zealand.

Yes we are always objective, particularly when praising ourselves for being so much more objective and reasoned than those impassioned foreigners.

Michelle Fivefer 1st February 2015 13:13

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Originally Posted by Ali TT (Post 655024)
Yes we are always objective, particularly when praising ourselves for being so much more objective and reasoned than those impassioned foreigners.

:D

Ah, but don't forget we are always hardest on our own players. We downplay runs and wickets made in favourable conditions and against poor opposition. We damn with faint praise. Beefy is always telling us off for this.

As it nearly says in the O2 adverts, we need to be more Aussie.

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 1st February 2015 19:30

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Originally Posted by sharky (Post 654980)
Either that or in trying to navigate the new look cricinfo they've managed to vote in a poll whilst trying to do something completely different. It's horrendous.

:good:

1000yardstare 1st March 2015 20:21

World Cup

Anderson - Finch - dropped by Woakes on 0 - makes 135
Anderson - Warner - Ali get his fingertips to it - makes 22 (chance)
Anderson - Bailey - Ballance and Broad leave it to each other - 11 runs ( chance)
Finn - Maxwell - Buttler gets fingertips to it - 26 runs (chance)
Anderson - Maxwell - Finn makes a mess - a further 17 runs from the last drop (chance)
Anderson - Coetzer - Bell couldn't hold on - 67 runs
Broad - Thirimanne - on 3 Buttler didn't go for a catch that was his - 136 runs by the end.
Anderson - Thirimanne - dropped by Ali on 98 - further 41 runs
Woakes - Thirimanne - Taylor can't hold - further 15 runs (chance)
Broad - Iqbal - dropped Jordan - 1 run added

Numerous throws at the stumps yet no run outs.

square leg umpire 1st March 2015 21:36

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 658178)
World Cup

Anderson - Finch - dropped by Woakes on 0 - makes 135
Anderson - Warner - Ali get his fingertips to it - makes 22 (half chance)
Anderson - Bailey - Ballance and Broad leave it to each other - 11 runs (half chance)
Finn - Maxwell - Buttler gets fingertips to it - 26 runs (half chance)
Anderson - Maxwell - Finn makes a mess - a further 17 runs from the last drop (half chance)
Anderson - Coetzer - Bell couldn't hold on - 67 runs
Broad - Thirimanne - on 3 Buttler didn't go for a catch that was his - 136 runs by the end.
Anderson - Thirimanne - dropped by Ali on 98 - further 41 runs
Woakes - Thirimanne - Taylor can't hold - further 15 runs (half chance)

Numerous throws at the stumps yet no run outs.

As I said in the match thread had England held their catches they may have sneaked it. other sides know it's safe to take quick singles against us because we never hit. If England hit the dismissed batsman would be in a state of shock.

beefy 2nd March 2015 02:12

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Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer (Post 655030)
:D

Ah, but don't forget we are always hardest on our own players. We downplay runs and wickets made in favourable conditions and against poor opposition. We damn with faint praise. Beefy is always telling us off for this.

As it nearly says in the O2 adverts, we need to be more Aussie.

:bravo:

1000yardstare 29th March 2015 17:14

OptaJim ‏@OptaJim 1h1 hour ago
15 - Pakistan (15) dropped the most catches at #CWC15, ahead of Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe (both 13). Grassed.

1000yardstare 5th May 2015 12:16

2015

Stokes to Blackwood on 43 dropped Tredwell makes 69 runs
Tredwell to Holder on 87 dropped Tredwell makes 16 runs
Broad to Holder on 4 dropped Ballance makes 12 runs
Jordan to Smith on 13 dropped Ballance makes 2 runs
Jordan to Samuels on 32 dropped Cook makes makes 71 runs
Broad to Blackwood on 20 dropped Broad makes 6 runs
Broad to Bravo on 0 dropped Cook makes 9 runs
Root to Blackwood on 27 dropped Bell makes 58 runs
Broad to Hope on 4 dropped Root makes 5 runs
Root to Blackwood on 4 missed stumping by Buttler makes 43

Minor Maggie 5th May 2015 22:19

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 667024)
2015

Stokes to Blackwood on 43 dropped Tredwell makes 69 runs
Tredwell to Holder on 87 dropped Tredwell makes 16 runs
Broad to Holder on 4 dropped Ballance makes 12 runs
Jordan to Smith on 13 dropped Ballance makes 2 runs
Jordan to Samuels on 32 dropped Cook makes makes 71 runs
Broad to Blackwood on 20 dropped Broad makes 6 runs
Broad to Bravo on 0 dropped Cook makes 9 runs
Root to Blackwood on 27 dropped Bell makes 58 runs
Broad to Hope on 4 dropped Root makes 5 runs
Root to Blackwood on 4 missed stumping by Buttler makes 43

Jimmy got lucky then!

1000yardstare 6th May 2015 04:10

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Originally Posted by Minor Maggie (Post 667151)
Jimmy got lucky then!

He did. I think he had only 1 catch dropped against India. He's had most of his wickets caught keeper, lbw and bowled in the last year so maybe why hardly any dropped catches.

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 6th May 2015 13:51

What would Broad's average be over that time period if those 40 chances had been taken?

1000yardstare 6th May 2015 13:58

Run outs since Collingwood retired

Run outs made

8 - Anderson
6 - Prior
3 - Buttler
2 - Swann, Cook, Bairstow, Bresnan, Ali, Broad, Bell
1 -Trott, Strauss, Pietersen, Finn, Craddock, Carberry, Root, Woakes

Players run out

3 - Prior
2 - Root, Bell, Anderson, Ali
1 - Broad, Taylor, Swann, Jordan

At least we have made more run outs than getting run out.

1000yardstare 6th May 2015 14:04

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother (Post 667213)
What would Broad's average be over that time period if those 40 chances had been taken?

Don't forget that is after the beginning of 2011. Must also be more drops previously. If all catches were to be taken then we would have won all our Tests. :cheesy:

D/L 6th May 2015 14:08

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother (Post 667213)
What would Broad's average be over that time period if those 40 chances had been taken?

First of all, if all chances were taken, all averages would be lower and a lower average for any bowler would then be judged against a different yardstick. Some special pleading there, it would seem.

I get the impression, can't prove anything of course, that the good fortune enjoyed by Broad rather outweighs the bad.

slop 6th May 2015 14:17

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother (Post 667213)
What would Broad's average be over that time period if those 40 chances had been taken?

Assuming some weren't off the same batsman or later taken by Broad anyway? And that they weren't difficult chances that you wouldn't expect to be taken regularly? Or dropped by Broad himself? I'd say it would be lower. Like KP's score vs the Aussies in 2005 5th test.

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 6th May 2015 14:41

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Originally Posted by D/L (Post 667221)
First of all, if all chances were taken, all averages would be lower and a lower average for any bowler would then be judged against a different yardstick. Some special pleading there, it would seem.

I get the impression, can't prove anything of course, that the good fortune enjoyed by Broad rather outweighs the bad.

Maybe you can't prove it because the facts suggest that he's more unlucky than most?

I mean he's had more catches dropped off his bowling than Jimmy, for starters.


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