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Rigs 8th June 2017 12:43

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Originally Posted by Notts Exile (Post 759281)
Harry Gurney says he's surprised at how big the gulf is between Divisions One and Two. This says a man who has 13 wickets at 33! What an arrogant Muppet. He's a Division Tow bowler if ever I saw one.

This would appear to be Notts biggest challenge this season, their own pig headed arrogance. They have a few very good bowlers and far more very average ones.

Was a curious interview. I went to two days of the game and I saw a some good bowling from Derbyshire, in friendly conditions and some bang average batting from Notts. Suspect batting changes for Gloucs on Friday, especially after BT bagged another ton in the 2s this week. Not sure there will be too many changes with the bowling though.

Lets hope the Aussies crash out of the Champions Trophy and Pattinson comes back fresh and ready to go (again).

oldandfat 9th June 2017 11:09

Sussex's attack today has Phillander, Jordan, Archer (WI U19, seems impressive), Wiese (SA with international experience) and Briggs. To me that is a pretty strong bowling attack!?! Not sure Gurney would get into it?

stevieh 9th June 2017 19:18

Kent are struggling vs Durham, after Colly scores a ton. Sam Northeast is the last hope to entend the innings a bit more, with Yasir Shah batting at 10 and doing a fine job of support to partly rescue a dire situation.

sanskritsimon 10th June 2017 17:28

Great recovery from Glamorgan today, from 58 for 6 to 381 all out and a sizeable first-innngs lead. Glamorgan have shown some great spirit at various points in recent weeks and may perhaps be turning the elusive corner ...

WeAreKent 10th June 2017 20:44

Durham looking good finally to get out of negative territory tomorrow. Victory v Kent will raise them to the giddy heights of +2 points.

They've shown a lot of resolve in this match and are determined to punish Kent for their opportunistic attempt to profit from Durham's misfortune by trying to claim their Div One place.

Yasir Shah proving more use as a batsman than a bowler in his first Kent appearance. Match figures of 3-162 and his inexperience in English conditions was exposed when he got spanked for five an over in Durham's second innings with not a single maiden in his 19 overs.

He bowls far too many loose four balls for a Test match bowler, imo, and hasn't appeared in full control of either his length or his line.

Joe Denly has 3 wkts at just 26 runs each this season with his leggies , more economical and at a massively better strike rate than Test cricket's highest-ranked wrist spinner.

One admires Kent's ambition with such a marquee signing. But a quality quick bowler to bolster a seam attack - which sans Parnell and Harris looks as weak and wobbly as our hapless PM - would have been the strong and stable choice.

Heaven knows what poor Jimmy Tredwell is thinking in his beneift season. Even when he's selected he has only been trusted to bowl 32 overs in ten innings, so it would appear that Walker and Northeast are manoevering him towards the exit door come the end of the season.

Summer of '77 11th June 2017 08:14

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Originally Posted by WeAreKent (Post 759581)
They've shown a lot of resolve in this match and are determined to punish Kent for their opportunistic attempt to profit from Durham's misfortune by trying to claim their Div One place.

Is that really an issue for Durham? They were relegated come what may, and whichever team took their place was surely irrelevant.

gmdf 11th June 2017 08:27

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Originally Posted by Summer of '77 (Post 759604)
Is that really an issue for Durham? They were relegated come what may, and whichever team took their place was surely irrelevant.

Indeed. Did Kent have any say in Durham's punishments? In their relegation?

Of course not.

WeAreKent 11th June 2017 09:25

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Originally Posted by gmdf (Post 759605)
Indeed. Did Kent have any say in Durham's punishments? In their relegation?

Of course not.

Nobody said they did if you bother to read it. But Kent did make an opportunistic attempt to profit from Durham's misfortune by trying to claim their Div One place - and then threatened to sue the ECB citing as "evidence" a conversation allegedly overheard by an anonymous "witness" on a train.

The threat turned out to be utterly hollow and the discredited Kennedy subsequently stood down as Kent chairman, to the relief of just about everyone. Fortunately, the club now has a far more level-headed and diplomatic chairman who is working hard to restore the relationships throughout the game which Kennedy's bull-headed approach destroyed.

Aidan11 11th June 2017 10:12

Durham have no axe to grind with Kent.

In fact we wanted them to go up with Hampshire coming down as it is the latter county - or more specifically Bransgrove- who we felt were stabbing us in the back.

We were right behind Kent. For what it's worth I still think we'll have trouble winning today.

Summer of '77 11th June 2017 15:59

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Originally Posted by WeAreKent (Post 759581)
Heaven knows what poor Jimmy Tredwell is thinking in his beneift season. Even when he's selected he has only been trusted to bowl 32 overs in ten innings, so it would appear that Walker and Northeast are manoevering him towards the exit door come the end of the season.

Tredwell does at least retain sufficiently decent white ball credentials. In contrast, Will Gidman played in none of the One Day Cup matches and I'm struggling to see what exactly he's bringing to the Championship campaign; another batting failure today gives him 154 runs at an average of 15, while he's also rarely trusted to put in a proper shift with the ball (3 wickets at more than 60 apiece from 6 games). Kinda think Kent couldn't do worse playing Blake at 7 and using Denly as the regular fifth bowler.

Summer of '77 11th June 2017 19:15

A fine effort by Kent to bat through the day and hang on by the skin of their teeth. Big credit again to Northeast and also Yasir, who earned himself a promotion of one place for this innings and may yet rise higher. There seems, in Championship cricket at least, an unbending character to this Kent side not often seen in recent seasons. One has to ask questions about the timing of Durham's declaration, though. 400 would surely have been ample, and an extra 10 overs priceless. I guess it's understandable if Colly felt chastened after his sporting closure against Northants ended in defeat last week.

On the subject of Northants, their second successive win (along with Kent's draw and another loss by Worcs) has moved them up into the pack of teams with 4 wins. Notts will feasibly detach themselves from it tomorrow by prevailing over Glos, while a Sussex victory at Grace Road would see them just outside the contenders. I'd say there's plenty to play for and a heap of twists to come in this promotion race.

Finally...I wouldn't have been too upset had Durham won today and I hope they manage to kick start their season real soon.

Runningfox 11th June 2017 19:51

Yesterday's last wicket stand by Sussex extended into this morning looks likely to cost them dear .... again

stevieh 11th June 2017 21:46

I couldn't believe Kent would hold out, so they exceeded my expectations, aided by a slightly too conservative declaration by Durham. The tail really earned its keep in this one, with Yasir's international experience really paying dividends.

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 12th June 2017 12:54

Luke Wells' excellent return continues.

Following on from his double century against Durham and his 150 v Worcs he's now 68* out of 180/4 in their fourth innings pursuit of 232.

sharky 12th June 2017 16:04

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother (Post 759699)
Luke Wells' excellent return continues.

Following on from his double century against Durham and his 150 v Worcs he's now 68* out of 180/4 in their fourth innings pursuit of 232.

Finished 90* and averaging over 100 this season at a decent strike rate compared to his old self. Hopefully finally blossoming.

Notts Exile 12th June 2017 17:19

Gloucestershire followed Glamorgan's example in the "How to stop Notts without Pattinson" book. Prepare a dead wicket. Tactics like this will destroy county cricket but at least they don't lose to Notts!

WeAreKent 12th June 2017 18:39

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Originally Posted by Aidan11 (Post 759614)
Durham have no axe to grind with Kent.

In fact we wanted them to go up with Hampshire coming down .

But I think it was Ryan Pringle who said Durham wanted to stuff Kent to show them they should still be a div one county and Kent's cheeky threat of legal action to replace them in the top flight was a div two side getting above its station?

Glos did Kent a favour today, just as Glam did yesterday. Van Buuren is a much under-rated player. He was barely on my radar and I was surpised to note on cricinfo today that he has a f/c batting average of 48 and a bowling avge of 27 as a v useful slow left-armer.

As for Yasir Shah, I have a horrible feeling that he is not going to bowl out sides as Matt Walker predicted he would. As a wicket-taker in county cricket he looks to me to be a long way short of a Mushtaq Ahmed or even a Saeed Ajmal.

But if the five points he gained by batting out the draw last night turn out to be the difference between second andf third place come September, then he will have more than paid back the substantial sum Kent have paid for his services - as a batsman.

it's a funny old game, as gmdf or somebody with a little more wit once said...

sanskritsimon 12th June 2017 18:46

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Originally Posted by Notts Exile (Post 759739)
Gloucestershire followed Glamorgan's example in the "How to stop Notts without Pattinson" book. Prepare a dead wicket. Tactics like this will destroy county cricket but at least they don't lose to Notts!

Err ... yes, if you say so. Not that the Notts attack is toothless or anything.

Supersax 12th June 2017 22:22

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Originally Posted by sanskritsimon (Post 759750)
Err ... yes, if you say so. Not that the Notts attack is toothless or anything.

If you read the report of today's play on Cricinfo, you'll see that the writer condemns the pitch as doing 'more damage to the County Championship' than any city-based T20 competition'. The fact that Notts resorted to Riki Wessels filthy legspin half an hour after lunch says it all really.

Notts do lack a quality frontline spinner, but toothless is a bit harsh.

Rigs 13th June 2017 09:17

Three things here.

1. It was clear that Gloucs prepared a terrible pitch, for whatever reason and should be reported for it.
2. Any county attack without its 3 front line bowlers is not going to be as effective as with. The fact they managed to take 15 wickets should be applauded.
3. We Notts fans are the only ones that can be critical of Notts (its the law!)


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