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Summer of '77 6th April 2017 09:08

County Championship Division Two 2017
 
The Division Two season begins tomorrow with three matches:
  • Kent v Gloucestershire (Canterbury)
  • Leicestershire v Nottinghamshire (Leicester)
  • Northamptonshire v Glamorgan (Northampton)

So, Notts' opening game of their campaign to return straight back to Div One is a local derby against their feeder club.

I should really make an effort to attend a day of Kent's first home game. A more enticing opponent would have made that most likely. Or, for that matter, a more interesting home team.

Wherever I end up this weekend, bring it all on.

Arachibutyrophobic 6th April 2017 09:42

Was hoping to be at Grace Road on Saturday but, unfortunately, Keyworth United under 8s have a game against Bingham Town so my first cricket will not be until the Sussex game on April 22nd.

Supersax 6th April 2017 18:57

Leicestershire docked 16 points due to persistent disciplinary issues. Charlie Shreck receives a 3 game ban, and skipper Mark Cosgrove a one game ban.

Michelle Fivefer 7th April 2017 11:44

Didn't Stuart Broad leave Leics to join first div Notts? Appropriate start for Notts 2nd div season, playing Leics. Broad has taken a wicket.

Bestie 7th April 2017 12:23

Utter carnage as Nathan Buck takes three wickets in 7 balls to knock Glamorgan to 26-6.

The Hanging Monkey 7th April 2017 12:23

Jesus, what's happening at Northampton?

Ali TT 8th April 2017 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer (Post 755863)
Didn't Stuart Broad leave Leics to join first div Notts? Appropriate start for Notts 2nd div season, playing Leics. Broad has taken a wicket.

Some attack Notts fielding in this game. Must be one of the strongest ever seen in division 2.

paulsre 9th April 2017 10:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Hanging Monkey (Post 755868)
Jesus, what's happening at Northampton?

Once again Northants showing what can be done on a tiny budget. Am amazed that David Ripley hasn't yet been enticed away.

Bestie 9th April 2017 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali TT (Post 755885)
Some attack Notts fielding in this game. Must be one of the strongest ever seen in division 2.

Presumably might be topped in one of their games soon if they get Ball alongside Broad and Pattinson.

stevieh 9th April 2017 14:01

The Kent tail is wagging happily as Claydon and Tredwell plunder forty odd from four and a bit overs vs Glos.

paulsre 9th April 2017 15:14

Well now Gloucs being absolutely coventrated.

CDogg16 9th April 2017 15:28

The Notts bowlers were helped out by some very ordinary batting from Leicestershire, the points deduction may have had an effect on the players.

gmdf 9th April 2017 18:16

Seldom seen a day at cricket where things changed so quickly - before lunch Gidman and Tredwell battled resolutely to add 60 in 23 overs against accurate and hostile bowling from all 4 Gloucs seamers (esp. Norwell who started the day by taking 3 wickets in 5 balls).

Then after lunch Gidman & Coles went in the first over (also Taylor's first over) before Tredwell and Claydon smashed 52 runs in 6.1 overs for the last wicket.

Set an unlikely 396 to win Gloucs slumped to 37-9 in 13.1 overs, at one point threatening to post their lowest score ever (a record from 1903) before only some hitting from Norwell took them to 61 all out, and a 334 run loss. Well though Harris (3-26) & Stevens (6-22) bowled, on a good wicket in perfect batting weather any side should have scored far more, and at least taken the game into Day 4.

A great start for Kent, questions to be answered for the Gloucestershire batsmen.

Supersax 9th April 2017 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali TT (Post 755885)
Some attack Notts fielding in this game. Must be one of the strongest ever seen in division 2.

Notts are set to ask the ECB to let Broad play in the next game against Durham, a game he was originally scheduled to miss. He only bowled 21 overs in the Leics game.

That would leave Notts with an attack of Broad, Pattinson and Ball ...v Onions, Rushworth and Wood.

Summer of '77 9th April 2017 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmdf (Post 755942)
Seldom seen a day at cricket where things changed so quickly - before lunch Gidman and Tredwell battled resolutely to add 60 in 23 overs against accurate and hostile bowling from all 4 Gloucs seamers (esp. Norwell who started the day by taking 3 wickets in 5 balls).

Then after lunch Gidman & Coles went in the first over (also Taylor's first over) before Tredwell and Claydon smashed 52 runs in 6.1 overs for the last wicket.

Set an unlikely 396 to win Gloucs slumped to 37-9 in 13.1 overs, at one point threatening to post their lowest score ever (a record from 1903) before only some hitting from Norwell took them to 61 all out, and a 334 run loss. Well though Harris (3-26) & Stevens (6-22) bowled, on a good wicket in perfect batting weather any side should have scored far more, and at least taken the game into Day 4.

A great start for Kent, questions to be answered for the Gloucestershire batsmen.

An important 50 in Kent's first innings and match bowling figures of 8-64. The old boy's still got it !

Bestie 9th April 2017 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersax (Post 755947)
Notts are set to ask the ECB to let Broad play in the next game against Durham, a game he was originally scheduled to miss. He only bowled 21 overs in the Leics game.

That would leave Notts with an attack of Broad, Pattinson and Ball ...v Onions, Rushworth and Wood.

Strongest second division set of 22 in a long time, that would be.

paulsre 10th April 2017 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDogg16 (Post 755933)
The Notts bowlers were helped out by some very ordinary batting from Leicestershire, the points deduction may have had an effect on the players.

No doubt it can't have helped.

At first glance that looks like a rout by Notts, yet Leicestershire had Notts at 167-7 and should have been looking at a first-innings lead, but instead the last three wickets put on 162.

That seems to have been a very familiar tale for Leicestershire since they started last season so well, and something is definitely missing. Apart from Ben Raine, the team lacks the "X-factor" and it's as if they have gone on a circular journey - they have made a lot of recruitment but it doesn't seem to have taken them a great deal forward.

Arachibutyrophobic 10th April 2017 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersax (Post 755947)
That would leave Notts with an attack of Broad, Pattinson and Ball ...v Onions, Rushworth and Wood.

Crikey - at Chester-le-Street in April. It'll be done and dusted by tea on day 1!

Ali TT 10th April 2017 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supersax (Post 755947)
Notts are set to ask the ECB to let Broad play in the next game against Durham, a game he was originally scheduled to miss. He only bowled 21 overs in the Leics game.

That would leave Notts with an attack of Broad, Pattinson and Ball ...v Onions, Rushworth and Wood.

So what's Broad going to be doing between now and the first test in July?

paulsre 11th April 2017 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali TT (Post 756019)
So what's Broad going to be doing between now and the first test in July?

Play for Notts, but with restrictions to how often.

Ali TT 14th April 2017 13:08

Well with Ball in for Broad, Notts have run through Durham's top order.

Glamorgan, o dear

1000yardstare 14th April 2017 14:36

Pattinson with wickets of 2 Ashes contenders
Jennings 28 and Wood 11

stevieh 14th April 2017 17:09

Glamorgan made a decent recovery with Lloyd last man out for 88. Then the Worcs top order finding the going challenging. In general, sides batting first have had to battle today.

sharky 14th April 2017 18:48

Philander 0/57 Archer 7/67. The South African contingent didn't take a wicket for Sussex as Kent rallied to get 300 then nab Nash before close.

gmdf 14th April 2017 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharky (Post 756268)
Philander 0/57 Archer 7/67. The South African contingent didn't take a wicket for Sussex as Kent rallied to get 300 then nab Nash before close.

Philander didn't get a wicket for us in 2 games a few years ago either!

WeAreKent 14th April 2017 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmdf (Post 756270)
Philander didn't get a wicket for us in 2 games a few years ago either!

That's bloody harsh! I saw him take 4 for 8 on his Kent debut in a T20 game v Middx.

He only played two CC games, both of them on horribly low and slow tracks especially prepared to break a seam bowler's heart.

Surprised Kent dropped Weatherley and Harris today after both played substantial roles in the victory v Glos last week.

Good to see competition for places for the first time in many years - but why take players on loan if you are not going to play them? Hopefully Hants and Middx are still paying their wages rather than Kent!

Jofra Archer is a star in the making. He was 12th man v Kent at Tunbridge Wells last season and had the languid air of Chris Gayle about him, strolling around ther boundary with a diamond stud in his ear and the hugest, bright yellow designer watch on his wrist. He didn't even take the watch off when he was required to field sub.

He was reccomended to Sussex by Chris Jordan and from what I saw of him in a couple of games at Hove last season v Glos and Worcs, I'd say he has the potential to be even better than CJ.

Mcccfan 15th April 2017 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreKent (Post 756272)
Surprised Kent dropped Weatherley and Harris today after both played substantial roles in the victory v Glos last week.

Good to see competition for places for the first time in many years - but why take players on loan if you are not going to play them? Hopefully Hants and Middx are still paying their wages rather than Kent!

Harris missed this game with "a minor chest injury" according to Kent website. Will be fine to return at Canterbury next weekend.

gmdf 15th April 2017 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreKent (Post 756272)
That's bloody harsh! I saw him take 4 for 8 on his Kent debut in a T20 game v Middx.

He only played two CC games, both of them on horribly low and slow tracks especially prepared to break a seam bowler's heart.

Surprised Kent dropped Weatherley and Harris today after both played substantial roles in the victory v Glos last week.

Good to see competition for places for the first time in many years - but why take players on loan if you are not going to play them? Hopefully Hants and Middx are still paying their wages rather than Kent!

Jofra Archer is a star in the making. He was 12th man v Kent at Tunbridge Wells last season and had the languid air of Chris Gayle about him, strolling around ther boundary with a diamond stud in his ear and the hugest, bright yellow designer watch on his wrist. He didn't even take the watch off when he was required to field sub.

He was reccomended to Sussex by Chris Jordan and from what I saw of him in a couple of games at Hove last season v Glos and Worcs, I'd say he has the potential to be even better than CJ.

Yes, l saw his performance vs Middlesex in the T20 too. And thought he'd be great. But it turned out he wasn't fully fit and didn't take a single wicket in 4 innings in the County Championship. You expect more from an overseas player!

Summer of '77 15th April 2017 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmdf (Post 756283)
Yes, l saw his performance vs Middlesex in the T20 too. And thought he'd be great. But it turned out he wasn't fully fit and didn't take a single wicket in 4 innings in the County Championship. You expect more from an overseas player!

I think this is a regular problem with overseas bowlers signed on stupidly short contracts. To expect them to turn up and immediately acclimatise to conditions, pitches, their teammates etc and produce f-c performances worthy of their international status is a tad unrealistic. Some manage it, quite a few don't.

stevieh 15th April 2017 14:19

Enjoyable morning listening to Sussex vs Kent on BBC radio, with Kent picking up regular wickets to leave the hosts scrambling towards the follow-on target. Seems the weather is holding up quite well around the country, considering it is only Easter weekend.

CDogg16 15th April 2017 14:41

Fletcher and Pattinson putting Notts in a strong position after the top order flopped again.

square leg umpire 15th April 2017 16:30

Durham let Notts get from 128-6 to 305. Likely to cost them the match.

WeAreKent 15th April 2017 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmdf (Post 756283)
Yes, l saw his performance vs Middlesex in the T20 too. And thought he'd be great. But it turned out he wasn't fully fit and didn't take a single wicket in 4 innings in the County Championship. You expect more from an overseas player!

Well he's now got a groin injury and with a heavy summer of international cricket ahead, I wouldn't be surprised if CSA decree that his brief career in a Sussex shirt is already over. With Philander unable to bowl, Kent look odds-on to pick up 22 pts from this match.

Summer of '77 16th April 2017 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeAreKent (Post 756318)
Well he's now got a groin injury and with a heavy summer of international cricket ahead, I wouldn't be surprised if CSA decree that his brief career in a Sussex shirt is already over. With Philander unable to bowl, Kent look odds-on to pick up 22 pts from this match.

That'd be swell, although I wouldn't discount the possibility of Kent's second innings stuttering as their first did, leaving Sussex a manageable chase. I hope wickets don't tumble too quickly today as I'm hoping for a seaside trip on Monday.

paulsre 16th April 2017 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summer of '77 (Post 756322)
I hope wickets don't tumble too quickly today as I'm hoping for a seaside trip on Monday.

Don't forget that on weekends and bank holidays only, there is a Super Off-Peak Day Return available for 10.80 using Thameslink only. Services at 12 and 42 past the hour.

Summer of '77 16th April 2017 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulsre (Post 756334)
Don't forget that on weekends and bank holidays only, there is a Super Off-Peak Day Return available for 10.80 using Thameslink only. Services at 12 and 42 past the hour.

7:20 for me now !

CDogg16 16th April 2017 16:53

Kent leaving it late to declare. 426 ahead and now gone off for bad light.

WeAreKent 17th April 2017 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Summer of '77 (Post 756322)
That'd be swell, although I wouldn't discount the possibility of Kent's second innings stuttering as their first did, leaving Sussex a manageable chase. I hope wickets don't tumble too quickly today as I'm hoping for a seaside trip on Monday.

Enjoy your trip to the seaside today, rob. My guess is that despite Northeast batting far too long for 50 extra gratuitous runs last night,Sussex will capitulate sometime in mid-afternoon before the rain which is forecast to arrive around 4pm.

LIke you, I'd never discount the prospect of a Kent stutter in the batting, but my assessment of the likely progress of the Kent second innings was based solely on the weakness of the Sussex attack, sans Philander, Magoffin, Ollie Robinson and Briggs to exert some control from at least one end, plus the statistical unlikelihood of young Archer causing the same mayhem second time around.

By tonight Notts and Kent will likely be 40 odd pts ahead of Sussex and while it is far too early in the season to write off Sussex's promotion chances, just two weeks in they are likely to find themselves with a Durham-sized deficit to catch up on the early front-runners.

paulsre 17th April 2017 12:59

Some declaration bowling allowed Luis Reece and Billy Godleman to break Derbyshire's record opening stand, making 333, previously held by Harry Storer and Joseph Bowden in 1929.

Ali TT 17th April 2017 14:51

Leicestershire reverting to the "mean" of a couple of years ago. Another winless season?


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