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Ponty100mph 22nd May 2009 18:44

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Originally Posted by WeStMiDz (Post 310703)
Still no sign of that video of Atul which was promised, Ponty?

It would seem the Indian media can hype something up WAY better than anyone else... even I cannot compete with this

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.p...99&ptype=video

Chin Music 22nd May 2009 19:05

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Originally Posted by Ponty100mph (Post 318562)
It would seem the Indian media can hype something up WAY better than anyone else... even I cannot compete with this

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.p...99&ptype=video

I'm sure you could give it a good go! ;) Hopefully the lad doesn't see that article.

Ponty100mph 22nd May 2009 19:09

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Originally Posted by Chin Music (Post 318569)
I'm sure you could give it a good go! ;) Hopefully the lad doesn't see that article.

It's been seen by 60 million viewers in India already. I'm in hiding with the phones all off.:cool:

William 22nd May 2009 19:31

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Originally Posted by Kim (Post 318259)
Geraint mentioned on Sky yesterday that Parnell was the fastest bowler hed ever kept to.

Not sure Johnson Sharma Flintoff Fernando or Morkel quite belong on that list

I reckon you could make a case for Johnson being the fastest bowler in the world at the moment. Other quicks can match or better him over 2 or 3 overs, but Mitch seems to be able to bowl a whole lot of overs and still hit 150 ks at the end of the day.

Chin Music 22nd May 2009 21:12

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Originally Posted by William (Post 318574)
I reckon you could make a case for Johnson being the fastest bowler in the world at the moment. Other quicks can match or better him over 2 or 3 overs, but Mitch seems to be able to bowl a whole lot of overs and still hit 150 ks at the end of the day.

It's not an unreasonable shout and he certainly bowled more consistently quick than Steyn over the winter but the latter ended up carrying the
Saffer attack in the home series and looked properly knackered towards the end.

1000yardstare 22nd May 2009 21:24

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Originally Posted by Chin Music (Post 318582)
It's not an unreasonable shout and he certainly bowled more consistently quick than Steyn over the winter but the latter ended up carrying the
Saffer attack in the home series and looked properly knackered towards the end.

He was carrying a virus in England and went straight to hospital when he got home. Was there for a month, so we never saw the best of Steyn.

Ali TT 24th May 2009 12:49

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Originally Posted by Ponty100mph (Post 318570)
It's been seen by 60 million viewers in India already. I'm in hiding with the phones all off.:cool:

He's a strong lad, but isn't there the risk he will break down more often than not (in training more than playing cricket)?

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 24th May 2009 13:09

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Originally Posted by Ponty100mph (Post 318562)
It would seem the Indian media can hype something up WAY better than anyone else... even I cannot compete with this

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.p...99&ptype=video

You're too modesty now Ponty! Got to say, I'd like to see him bowl in a game.

Fatslogger 24th May 2009 15:10

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother (Post 318783)
You're too modesty now Ponty! Got to say, I'd like to see him bowl in a game.

It does seem a bit odd that there's such a vast amount of hype about a bowler who hasn't picked up a red ball in anger. Even if he can sustain the pace in game conditions, that's hardly all that bowling is about.

1000yardstare 27th May 2009 14:49

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 173275)
Bowlers aged 25 and under -

23 Tests - 120 wickets at 21.60 econ 3.61 s/r 35.80 - Steyn (24)
29 Tests - 100 wickets at 32.26 econ 3.28 s/r 58.80 - Pathan (23)
28 Tests - 91 wickets at 33.80 econ 3.86 s/r 52.40 - Malinga (24)
25 Tests - 89 wickets at 34.61 econ 3.79 s/r 54.60 - Anderson (25)
16 Tests - 67 wickets at 31.55 econ 3.51 s/r 53.90 - Gul (24)
29 Tests - 66 wickets at 41.63 econ 3.28 s/r 75.90 - Mortaza (24)
20 Tests - 63 wickets at 34.69 econ 3.60 s/r 57.80 - Taylor (23)
11 Tests - 51 wickets at 23.13 econ 3.03 s/r 45.70 - Asif (25)
14 Tests - 50 wickets at 31.46 econ 3.28 s/r 57.40 - Sreesanth (25)
13 Tests - 40 wickets at 39.10 econ 4.02 s/r 58.20 - RP Singh (22)
9 Tests - 28 wickets at 33.57 econ 2.98 s/r 67.50 - Patel (24)
9 Tests - 23 wickets at 39.82 econ 3.57 s/r 66.80 - Plunkett (23)
6 Tests - 17 wickets at 32.35 econ 3.85 s/r 50.40 - Morkel (23)
6 Tests - 17 wickets at 36.47 econ 3.52 s/r 62.00 - Sharma (19)
5 Tests - 16 wickets at 27.37 econ 3.79 s/r 43.20 - Zondeki (25)
6 Tests - 16 wickets at 40.62 econ 3.06 s/r 79.50 - Broad (21)
2 Tests - 5 wickets at 63.20 econ 3.76 s/r 100.80 - Tanvir (23)
2 Tests - 5 wickets at 39.60 econ 3.13 s/r 75.80 - Southee (19)
3 Tests - 5 wickets at 60.40 econ 4.37 s/r 82.80 - Tait (25)

I would like to see how they have all done in a years time and who is still playing Tests and what new under 25 year olds have appeared. All are still developing and should be near the finished article when they reach their thirties.

Steyn is head and shoulders above the rest with Asif about the next best.

Well a year has passed since 22 May and I have put the age up to 27

1 Test 3 wickets at 14.00 econ 2.86 s/r 29.3 - Zondeki
2 Tests - 10 wickets at 20.00 econ 4.39 s/r 27.3 - Onions - NEW
15 Tests 70 wickets at 26.60 econ 2.93 s/r 55.4 - Johnson
7 Tests - 29 wickets at 27.65 econ 2.57 s/r 64.3 - Siddle - NEW
14 Tests 53 wickets at 28.24 econ 2.96 s/r 57.0 - Anderson
10 Tests 50 wickets at 28.74 econ 3.63 s/r 47.5 - Steyn
2 Tests 9 wickets at 29.77 econ 3.82 s/r 46.6 - Gul
12 Tests 35 wickets at 31.54 econ 3.03 s/r 62.2 - Sharma
12 Tests 42 wickets at 31.75 econ 3.73 s/r 51.0 - Edwards
2 Tests 3 wickets at 32.33 econ 3.12 s/r 62.0 - Bresnan - NEW
10 Tests 26 wickets at 35.84 econ 3.33 s/r 64.4 - Taylor
11 Tests 38 wickets at 36.05 econ 3.66 s/r 59.0 - Morkel
13 Tests 34 wickets at 37.11 econ 3.29 s/r 67.5 - Broad
6 Tests 12 wickets at 38.75 econ 2.98 s/r 78.0 - Mortaza
3 Tests 6 wickets at 48.33 econ 3.45 s/r 84.0 - Patel
3 Tests - 7 wickets at 52.28 econ 2.92 s/r 107.1 - Hilfenhaus - NEW
3 Tests 7 wickets at 53.85 econ 4.12 s/r 78.2 - Southee
1 Test - 2 wickets at 65.50 econ 2.97 s/r 132.0 - Bollinger - NEW
4 Tests - 5 wickets at 79.00 econ 3.59 s/r 132.0 - Baker - NEW

Not played
Pathan, Malinga, Asif, Sreesanth, RP Singh, Plunkett, Tanvir, Tait

1000yardstare 30th May 2009 16:01

Possible Ashes bowlers and their dismissals

Bowled - caught - c/behind - lbw
30.5% - 39.1% - 19.5% - 10.9% - Anderson
20.5% - 43.2% - 29.5% - 06.8% - Broad
16.1% - 45.9% - 23.4% - 13.8% - Flintoff
14.9% - 38.3% - 33.0% - 13.8% - Onions
14.7% - 35.3% - 0.00% - 47.1% - Swann
17.6% - 45.6% - 08.0% - 24.8% - Panesar (stumped 3.2% - hit wicket 0.8%)
19.5% - 39.0% - 18.2% - 23.4% - Sidebottom

14.9% - 38.3% - 33.0% - 13.8% - Johnson
24.1% - 34.5% - 17.2% - 24.1% - Siddle
14.4% - 36.7% - 27.8% - 21.1% - Clark
21.3% - 35.2% - 29.4% - 14.2% - Lee
14.3% - 42.9% - 28.6% - 14.3% - Hilfenhaus
00.0% - 78.6% - 14.3% - 07.1% - Hauritz
28.6% - 07.1% - 35.7% - 28.6% - Watson

Minor Maggie 30th May 2009 16:29

Well let's hope it's mainly Anderson we see shattering stumps and not Siddle and Lee!

beefy 1st June 2009 13:04

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Originally Posted by Minor Maggie (Post 319894)
Well let's hope it's mainly Anderson we see shattering stumps and not Siddle and Lee!

Why not Broad or Flintoff:think:

1000yardstare 1st June 2009 13:12

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Originally Posted by Quicksingles (Post 320229)
Why not Broad or Flintoff:think:

I think MM was refering to the % of bowleds by the England bowlers and not the actual wicket taking. Flintoff and Broad are more likely to get their dismissals caught.

30.5% - Anderson
20.5% - Broad
16.1% - Flintoff

1000yardstare 4th June 2009 15:06

Well great news that Bond has been released from his ICL contract with all the other New Zealand players.

'Today's board decision means that former ICL players will be considered for inclusion in the Black Caps' tour to Sri Lanka in August-September, and a New Zealand A tour to India in August'.

He will be 35 on Sunday.
Bond played for the Delhi Giants in 2008
11 wickets at 35.81 econ 6.60 s/r 32.54

17 Tests - last played 8 Nov 07
67 ODIs - 24 Apr 07
9 20/20s - 22 Sept 07

Last first class game for Hants 6 Jun 08

List A matches last played for Canterbury Jan 09
(73 overs 16 wickets at 19.93 econ 4.36 s/r 27.37)

20/20s Feb 09
24 overs 11 wickets at 14.36 econ 6.58 s/r 13.09

It's crazy that he made his Test debut seven and a half years ago and has only played 17 Tests. It will be interesting to see how many more he plays.

Fatslogger 6th June 2009 00:05

At 35 he may well never play again. When is the next NZ test series coming up?

Huda 6th June 2009 00:32

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Originally Posted by Fatslogger (Post 321399)
At 35 he may well never play again. When is the next NZ test series coming up?

He won't be able to play for 6months will he? Due to the amnesty thing.

1000yardstare 6th June 2009 00:44

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Originally Posted by Fatslogger (Post 321399)
At 35 he may well never play again. When is the next NZ test series coming up?

He may be 35 but he hasn't done very much bowling in his career.
1621 first class overs. Gough at 37 had bowled 7337 overs.

I would say Bond had another two years international cricket.

Fatslogger 6th June 2009 14:06

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare (Post 321407)
He may be 35 but he hasn't done very much bowling in his career.
1621 first class overs. Gough at 37 had bowled 7337 overs.

I would say Bond had another two years international cricket.

That depends on how many other useful international bowlers you think NZ has but it isn't just bowling that ages players. At 35 Bond will almost certainly have lost some pace and may or may not have the other attributes necessary to compensate enough for that still to be a good pick. He was extremely good though, so he might have.

1000yardstare 15th June 2009 13:30

Andy Roberts on the bouncer

What is the key to bowling it?

A bouncer requires a lot of effort, which I used to try to conceal. A good bouncer is always a surprise one. Your run-up must not show any sign of what you are try to do.

Where must the ideal bouncer reach the batsman?

Around the neck and straight at him.

What sort of variations do you need in a bouncer?

Most of mine were bowled on different types of deliveries. I would bowl an inswing bouncer, an outswing bouncer, a straight one - the straighter one was the most effective. Holding it across the seam has the most telling effect: if it lands on the seam it will rear up at the batsman, if it lands on the shiny side it will skid on to him, if it hits the rough side it will climb on him, but not as quickly.

You were famous for your slow and fast bouncers...

Those are the effort balls I was talking about. With some bowlers you can definitely tell if they are trying to bowl a bouncer: they will run in quicker. Today you see many fast bowlers not jumping at the point of delivery. A lot of them go straight without any vertical take-off, as it is very important in generating pace without showing it in the run ups.


We have commentators like Ian Ward asking of the slower bouncer, is that intentional and others talking about all these new deliveries being bowled in 20/20s. It's all been done before by the experts.


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