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LUHG 1st July 2007 18:01

Stuart Broad
 
Without going overboard about a match against so-so opposition it still looks like something of a breakthrough performance today so seems a good time to assess the fella.

Have to say, I like the look of his action - tall, smooth and repeatable. Also like his demeanor, pretty cool with a hint of aggression (hopefully there is some of his Dad's vim lurking in there).

Reckon his success today has been in part down to a slightly fuller length - he was often too short in previous matches and I worried that his 'natural length' (if there is really such a thing) was a tad too short (bit like Caddick).

What I'm not certain about is what sort of bowler he's going to be for England. He has bowled anywhere from low eighties to late eighties - are we expecting him to be genuinely quick when he's fully matured or are we looking at someone a bit slower and more back of a length like Pollock or McGrath? Is he likely to get swing or are we looking at small seam deviations combined with steep bounce? Also, any evidence he can reverse it?

I'm asking this now as I think he's got something about him and hopefully he'll play a fair bit of international cricket over the next year or so. Bring it on...

Any thoughts?

Aidan11 1st July 2007 18:24

Like all young players he needs time to develop but he does look like he has potential.

William 1st July 2007 18:44

I think I envisioned him turning out to be a tall, accurate bowler who bowls at 83-87mph with good bounce and with enough craft in his bowling to seam the ball both ways.

We shall have to wait and see what the future holds though..

Certainly I wouldn't expect him to have the craft of an Asif when it comes to mixing seam AND swing but he should have more pace and bounce about him.

KT1 1st July 2007 20:01

His action looked good. Any action delivering a ball repeatedly at 80+mph is going to result in injuries at some stage in a career so his fitness/conditioning work has to be monitored closely rather than any tinkering with his action, a la Anderson and Plunkett. I don't think he'll regularly swing the ball but the seam position looked good, so seam movement and bounce should be his weapons of choice. He was bowling low to mid 80s and I'm not sure he should strive for much more pace, just better control.

His catching seems secure but he looked a little clueless with the bat, surprisingly for a former opening batsman.

mark nicholas' lawyer 1st July 2007 20:04

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Originally Posted by LUHG (Post 67698)
I think he's got something about him

yawwwwwn duncan fletcher yaaaawwwwwn

Slater 1st July 2007 20:29

http://www.cricket247.org/community/...ead.php?t=2325

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LUHG 1st July 2007 20:42

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Originally Posted by Slater (Post 67810)

Why is everyone's names so big on there..?

LUHG 1st July 2007 20:45

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Originally Posted by KT1 (Post 67786)
His action looked good. Any action delivering a ball repeatedly at 80+mph is going to result in injuries at some stage in a career so his fitness/conditioning work has to be monitored closely rather than any tinkering with his action, a la Anderson and Plunkett. I don't think he'll regularly swing the ball but the seam position looked good, so seam movement and bounce should be his weapons of choice. He was bowling low to mid 80s and I'm not sure he should strive for much more pace, just better control.

His catching seems secure but he looked a little clueless with the bat, surprisingly for a former opening batsman.

I tend to agree - but feel that he'll need to become ultra-accurate to become that sort of bowler. Great if he can...

Most disapppintingly about his dismissal was that the stumps remained intact ;)

cabinboy 1st July 2007 20:48

He's added a bit of pace to his delivery. A couple of years back, he didn't look more than a handy medium fast bowler. Now, he could be a contender.

1000yardstare 1st July 2007 21:21

My second favourite English bowler

8 wickets at 29.62 econ 4.67 s/r 38.00.

He's beaten Plunkett and Mahmood to get his average under 30.00. :bravo:

Minor Maggie 1st July 2007 21:42

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Originally Posted by FastBowlersUnion (Post 67843)
My second favourite English bowler

8 wickets at 29.62 econ 4.67 s/r 38.00.

He's beaten Plunkett and Mahmood to get his average under 30.00. :bravo:

To be honest that isn't too difficult. One look at their economy rates would have told you that.

Mahmood has a big opportunity to lead the Lancs attack when he gets fit. At the end of the season Anderson will be playing in 7 ODI and probably off to South Africa so how he balls could have a very big impact on where the Championship ends up. He is hoping to be back for the Kent game I believe.

Jon Wallflower 1st July 2007 21:44

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Originally Posted by LUHG (Post 67818)
I tend to agree - but feel that he'll need to become ultra-accurate to become that sort of bowler. Great if he can...

Most disapppintingly about his dismissal was that the stumps remained intact ;)

I'm with you two, on this. Need for Broad to keep working on getting the ball on a small hanky, ev'ry blinking time. I'm not too fussed if he doesn't get it much over 32 MPH as long as he bangs it on the spot time after time. He's 19 feet tall, anyway, so anything over toddler speed is going to end up around a batsman's moobs, if not round his be-helmeted chops.

LUHG 1st July 2007 21:49

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Originally Posted by Jon Wallflower (Post 67872)
He's 19 feet tall, anyway,

But still hasn't stopped growing apparently ;)

LUHG 1st July 2007 21:49

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Originally Posted by FastBowlersUnion (Post 67843)
My second favourite English bowler

But the first who's a natural blonde..?

Minor Maggie 1st July 2007 21:51

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Originally Posted by LUHG (Post 67882)
But the first who's a natural blonde..?

And you call that colour natural?

geoff_boycotts_grandmother 1st July 2007 23:31

I'll get excited when he performs like that in 5 consecutive games.

We all know he has talent, but so do Plunkett, Anderson, Mahmood etc.

Michelle Fivefer 2nd July 2007 01:13

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Originally Posted by Minor Maggie (Post 67885)
And you call that colour natural?

It's too unnnatural not to be natural though, isn't it? Plus it's always looked that colour since he first came on the scene.

Anyway he's got a great future, and eventually Tony Cozier will stop calling him Chris.

Baron von Death 2nd July 2007 02:49

I haven't seen too much of young Broad but after the big fanfare he was a bit of a disappointment in the two games I finally did see. I'd imagine him to be more of an Angus fraser type bowler rather than an out and out quick. I'd like to see him given more time to develop his game but patience with Plunkett, Mahmood and Anderson must be wearing a little thin.

Jon Wallflower 2nd July 2007 07:18

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Originally Posted by Death (Post 67974)
I haven't seen too much of young Broad but after the big fanfare he was a bit of a disappointment in the two games I finally did see. I'd imagine him to be more of an Angus fraser type bowler rather than an out and out quick. I'd like to see him given more time to develop his game but patience with Plunkett, Mahmood and Anderson must be wearing a little thin.


I would love an Angorra Fraser type jumper bowler.

Chin Music 2nd July 2007 08:19

He needs plenty of bowling time for Leics to firm up any continuity especially in first class cricket so he can be defined as a particular back of a length lively fast medium. I think that's what he will be, but like is said he needs to be comfortable with his body and action before he is overexposed to international cricket. I think England seem to be learning the lessons from the likes of Anderson/Plunkett/Mahmood and not fast tracking in players who are not ready.


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