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Old 7th September 2018, 19:03   #161
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I think Id rather England went down all guns blazing rather than this rather limp surrender.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:06   #162
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When Ishant Sharma has given away only 28 runs in 22 overs, one wonders what England has done to Ishant. Have you guys really turned him around for us!?!
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:07   #163
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Why do they have a soft signal? Are they supposed to give a soft signal?
Why haven't they just given it out?!?! Was there some doubt over whether the ball was grounded before it was caught?

I didn't think umpires were allowed or at least supposed to do that, if they thought he'd hit it then give it out, Buttler would have presumably reviewed so the same result but still.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:10   #164
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Have India considered leg slip as a run saving position for their pacers?
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:12   #165
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Wow! I thought he was a goner, but what a review!
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:13   #166
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Have India considered leg slip as a run saving position for their pacers?
Ouch! Considering how less England has scored, all those byes conceded really is bad.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:13   #167
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Wow! I thought he was a goner, but what a review!
I think that was a what the heck review, it's been shown that batsman don't always know when they hit it a few times in the last couple of years.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:14   #168
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Why haven't they just given it out?!?! Was there some doubt over whether the ball was grounded before it was caught?

I didn't think umpires were allowed or at least supposed to do that, if they thought he'd hit it then give it out, Buttler would have presumably reviewed so the same result but still.
I agree! I don't know why they give a soft signal. What is that soft signal supposed to do? If it is a soft signal, they should have given it out in play, as you say.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:21   #169
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Why do they have a soft signal? Are they supposed to give a soft signal?
I think that when the umpire himself calls for a review, he can give a soft signal if he wants to. Effectively it seems to have the status that the on-field decision has in a player review -- i.e., the third umpire doesn't just report whether or not he thinks it's out, rather he reports whether or not he's sure the soft signal (or on-field decision) was wrong. In practice, though, the line between those two types of third-umpire report is hard to draw consistently.

Effectively the player review is for when the umpire is wrong, and the umpire review is for when the umpire is unsure (though may nonetheless have an opinion).
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Interesting in such a long hot dry summer the pitches have been so bowling helpful. Or rather not flat tracks.
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I think that when the umpire himself calls for a review, he can give a soft signal if he wants to. Effectively it seems to have the status that the on-field decision has in a player review -- i.e., the third umpire doesn't just report whether or not he thinks it's out, rather he reports whether or not he's sure the soft signal (or on-field decision) was wrong. In practice, though, the line between those two types of third-umpire report is hard to draw consistently.
Thanks Sans. I just felt it rather silly that the on-field umpires would go for third umpire's help and then give an indication of what they thought even though they didn't feel confident enough to give it in open play.
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I think that when the umpire himself calls for a review, he can give a soft signal if he wants to. Effectively it seems to have the status that the on-field decision has in a player review -- i.e., the third umpire doesn't just report whether or not he thinks it's out, rather he reports whether or not he's sure the soft signal (or on-field decision) was wrong. In practice, though, the line between those two types of third-umpire report is hard to draw consistently.
Why is the umpire calling for a review in that instance though, was there some doubt about a no-ball, grounded "catch" or high full toss? Aren't those the only instances the umpire should be calling for a review off their own backs?

Basically the umpire should have just given it out with no review.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:28   #173
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Bumrah's appeal for bat before wicket fails to impress the umpire.
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Old 7th September 2018, 19:30   #174
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Interesting in such a long hot dry summer the pitches have been so bowling helpful. Or rather not flat tracks.
They ain't council pitches. These groundsmen have hoses.
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Well that was different but the same as well. Low score and wickets a plenty. Cook close to the dream ending. Could still happen.
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Really nice to see bowlers having the upper hand, for a change. For that, need to commend the groundsmen.
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Well that was different but the same as well. Low score and wickets a plenty. Cook close to the dream ending. Could still happen.
Another 5 runs and he'd be averaging 45 for his career, which very few England batsmen have managed in my cricket-watching time.
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Less than 200 runs scored in a full 90 overs day.

Wonder when the last time that happened.
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Ishant Sharma has figures of 22-10-28-3. That's really amazing figures, from an Indian seamer, and that too Ishant Sharma! He's been really good in this tour, I must say
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Ishant Sharma has figures of 22-10-28-3. That's really amazing figures, from an Indian seamer, and that too Ishant Sharma! He's been really good in this tour, I must say
I've really enjoyed watching the Indian seamers this tour. They've moved on a bit from the days of Abid Ali and Solkar!

And..another compelling day in what has been a constantly absorbing series, proving that when first-class cricket is on its game, nothing can touch it.
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