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Old 20th September 2018, 14:57   #21
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I feel like it might always be announced tomorrow...
I wonder why the T20 squad wasn't announced at the same time as the ODI squad. It's mainly the same players. Only 1 match. I don't think Jordan will be flying out for 4 overs.
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Old 20th September 2018, 15:45   #22
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Well and 16 overs of gun fielding. You never know. Did I mention it’s a wonderful country to visit?
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Old 20th September 2018, 16:03   #23
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Who the feck is Stone? Has he played cricket before?
Plays for Warwickshire. Can bowl at 92mph though his career has been badly disrupted by injuries.
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Old 21st September 2018, 16:34   #24
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ENG squad for SL Tests:
Joe Root, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Rory Burns, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Joe Denly, Keaton Jennings, Jack Leach, Ollie Pope, Adil Rashid, Ben Stokes, Olly Stone, Chris Woakes
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ENG squad for SL Tests:
Joe Root, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Rory Burns, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Joe Denly, Keaton Jennings, Jack Leach, Ollie Pope, Adil Rashid, Ben Stokes, Olly Stone, Chris Woakes
6 seamers seems like overkill to me.
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Old 21st September 2018, 17:09   #26
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ENG squad for SL Tests:
Joe Root, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Rory Burns, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Joe Denly, Keaton Jennings, Jack Leach, Ollie Pope, Adil Rashid, Ben Stokes, Olly Stone, Chris Woakes
As Broad is in the squad I'd imagine he and Anderson will play. As Ali, Stokes and Leach all seem starters I'd guess they need to make a choice between Denly, Curran and Rashid. I've never seen Denly bowl, how good is his leg spin now?
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As Broad is in the squad I'd imagine he and Anderson will play. As Ali, Stokes and Leach all seem starters I'd guess they need to make a choice between Denly, Curran and Curran. I've never seen Denly bowl, how good is his leg spin now?
Burns Denly Ali Root Stokes Bairstow Buttler Curran Broad Leach Anderson?
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6 seamers seems like overkill to me.
Was about to mention that. Only Root, Pope, Burns, Denly and Jennings are the specialist batsmen with Pope and Burns having been wicketkeepers in the past. Yes I know Buttler is supposedly a specialist batsman but he bats at 7 so I'm not having that. Denly gets in by dint of his leggies as well! This could be a long 3 test tour me thinks.
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Burns Denly Ali Root Stokes Bairstow Buttler Curran Broad Leach Anderson?
I'd be surprised if they have 4 seamers. I'd expect Rashid in for Curran or possibly Broad. Generally I quite like the squad, though perhaps a seamer too many.
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Denly? Really. Does he have some incriminating pictures of Ed Smith?
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I'd be surprised if they have 4 seamers. I'd expect Rashid in for Curran or possibly Broad. Generally I quite like the squad, though perhaps a seamer too many.
Are you nervous yet? If he bats all day for every day if the series he will make a dent in your cow pot.

Glad to see stone get the call up. I would have preferred Overton over a non fully fit broad but he probably would not ply anyway and stone been excellent.
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Burns Denly Ali Root Stokes Bairstow Buttler Curran Broad Leach Anderson?
I agree with Sharky -- Rashid in for Curran. And then Jennings in for Denly. With Broad and Anderson both in the squad, I can't see that Curran, Woakes, or Stone should get a game unless there are injuries. But I imagine, judging from the balance of the squad, that England will use Denly as an excuse to play just one spinner amongst the bowlers and pick an unnecessary seamer there effectively as a specialist batsman. Which is a shame because Rashid may be a better batsman against spin than Woakes or Curran are.
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Was about to mention that. Only Root, Pope, Burns, Denly and Jennings are the specialist batsmen with Pope and Burns having been wicketkeepers in the past. Yes I know Buttler is supposedly a specialist batsman but he bats at 7 so I'm not having that. Denly gets in by dint of his leggies as well! This could be a long 3 test tour me thinks.
Yes - needs another batsman and Denly has Stoneman mk II written all over it.
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I agree with Sharky -- Rashid in for Curran. And then Jennings in for Denly. With Broad and Anderson both in the squad, I can't see that Curran, Woakes, or Stone should get a game unless there are injuries. But I imagine, judging from the balance of the squad, that England will use Denly as an excuse to play just one spinner amongst the bowlers and pick an unnecessary seamer there effectively as a specialist batsman. Which is a shame because Rashid may be a better batsman against spin than Woakes or Curran are.
I'd quite like to fit Denly in at 3 following Burns and Jennings but not sure it's possible while having the three spinners. It may come down to whoever does best in the warm ups, assuming we are having any.
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6 seamers seems like overkill to me.
And me. But it's the inclusion of Jennings that riles me.
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I'd quite like to fit Denly in at 3 following Burns and Jennings but not sure it's possible while having the three spinners. It may come down to whoever does best in the warm ups, assuming we are having any.
That looks logical to me. Denly is a specialist number 3 these days and if there's any intention at this stage to omit Jennings from the XI why is he still there? Furthermore I don't think they'll want to pick a pair of uncapped opening batsmen.

Buttler as a specialist batsman at 7 behind the wicketkeeper and an all-rounder is nonsense to me. Ben Foakes should be keeping wicket and batting at 7 because he's the best available keeper and he wouldn't be out of his depth batting at 7. If Bairstow and Buttler are both worth a top 6 place as specialist batsmen, fine. If one of them is going to keep wicket he should bat at 7 with the other at 5, assuming Stokes is inked in at 6.

Burns, Jennings, Denly, Root *, Buttler, Stokes, Bairstow+, Moeen would be my top 8 with Anderson at 11, then it's just a case of picking the other two bowlers, which would probably be Rashid and Broad for experience unless someone else makes a compelling case in the warm up matches. (Assuming there are going to be any meaningful warm up matches, which can be somewhat presumptuous these days.)

Do we really need more than two specialist spinners with Denly and Root able to provide back up?
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Burns Denly Ali Root Stokes Bairstow Buttler Curran Broad Leach Anderson?
My thought is they'll go:
Jennings Burns Denly/Ali Root Stokes Bairstow Buttler Ali/Curan/Rashid Broad Leach Anderson

Jennings must be starting otherwise why take him. Smith has made quite a bit of Denly's leg spin when the team was announced which makes me wonder if he'll be used as a third spinner and Rashid may miss out. You've got to think Jennings only has one, maximum two, matches to score some runs.
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Well it's not really a surprise but Broad being in the squad is a disappointment.

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Which is a shame because Rashid may be a better batsman against spin than Woakes or Curran are.
He's not although I'd rather play Woakes or Curran than Broad and play Rashid as well if there's 2 bowling spots up for grabs.
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Well it's not really a surprise but Broad being in the squad is a disappointment.



He's not although I'd rather play Woakes or Curran than Broad and play Rashid as well if there's 2 bowling spots up for grabs.
Broad is defiantly the first choice opening bowler along with Jimmy. there was talk of the selectors wanting to leave him out but apparently Joe Root was very keen to take him.
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Broad is defiantly the first choice opening bowler along with Jimmy. there was talk of the selectors wanting to leave him out but apparently Joe Root was very keen to take him.
Exactly, that's why I'm disappointed!
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