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Old 19th December 2014, 09:46   #161
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Unfortunately the ECB will insist on maintaining a domestic 50 over competition for as long as an endless output of utterly dreary but cash-lucrative ODIs remains. So the counties are stuck with it, however innovative and appealing alternative ideas may be.
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Old 21st December 2014, 11:06   #162
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Unfortunately the ECB will insist on maintaining a domestic 50 over competition for as long as an endless output of utterly dreary but cash-lucrative ODIs remains. So the counties are stuck with it, however innovative and appealing alternative ideas may be.
It's absolutely ridiculous that England have just completed another seven match ODI series in Sri Lanka (I thought we were told a couple of years back there wren't going to be any more series of more than five games?), which is ony one fewer match than most counties will play in this format during the whole of next season.
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Old 21st December 2014, 15:39   #163
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It's absolutely ridiculous that England have just completed another seven match ODI series in Sri Lanka (I thought we were told a couple of years back there wren't going to be any more series of more than five games?), which is ony one fewer match than most counties will play in this format during the whole of next season.
From my point of view, international one-day cricket is little more than a cricket circus. And when the circus comes to town, well, people will go because it only turns up in their locality once or twice a year.

On top of that, a series format, particularly where the draw is not an option in a match, is generally one of the least desirable ways to organise competitive sport, unless it is especially attractive in terms of rivalry, e.g. the Ashes (where in addition drawn games are possible as well).

Series don't have the ongoing attraction of a league format, where teams are embroiled in their own particular challenges (going for the title, or fighting for promotion / against relegation, with the major reward or punishment at the end of subsequently playing in a higher/lower league). Nor do they have the drama of cup competitions with the possibility of being eliminated or reaching a grand final. Series are just played in isolation, and well... that's that.

Plus series are bogged down by the monotony, especially if they are so long, as you pointed out here, by the same two sides playing each other over and over again.

The ridiculous thing is, it doesn't have to be like that (but that's a whole other topic).

On top of that, I think one of the most damaging things done was when it was decided that the draw should be eliminated from all international and top-flight domestic one-day cricket. One day/single innings cricket wasn't invented in the 1960s - it had been around since the sport's inception, except that sides could play for a draw just as in a longer game.

Personally I would prefer it if most one day cricket was played along the traditional lines - that is, for example, a 100 overs in a day one innings per side one day game, where the side batting first can bat up to 50 overs or declare beforehand, and the side batting second is allotted the remaining overs. If they don't beat the score of the side batting first but are not all out, the game is a draw (or "incomplete win"/"losing draw" respectively) - similar to First Class cricket, really.

Of course anyone suggesting in the 21st century that one-day cricket should be played with a draw element would be dismissed as coming from the Stone Age.
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Any update on when the Second XI fixtures are going to be released?
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Any update on when the Second XI fixtures are going to be released?
Notts 2nd XI fixtures have been on the OS for a while.

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/cricket...-fixtures.html

I assume that most other counties will be on their own sites?
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Notts 2nd XI fixtures have been on the OS for a while.

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/cricket...-fixtures.html

I assume that most other counties will be on their own sites?
Cheers.

Yes, Yorkshire's are up as well. So the entire list should appear on cricinfo soon, if they can get round to it inbetween posting endless articles about t20 franchises.
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Cheers.

Yes, Yorkshire's are up as well. So the entire list should appear on cricinfo soon, if they can get round to it inbetween posting endless articles about t20 franchises.
The ECB are not exactly forthcoming with the information either.
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The ECB are not exactly forthcoming with the information either.
Still no definitive 2nd XI fixture list despite there being just over 2 months until the season begins!

Dont the ECB understand that i'm waiting to finalise my summer's adventures?!

I know there are fixtures on some county website but i'm looking to see if specific venues are used again. For instance, i had a most enjoyable afternoon watching the Unicorns play Sussex at Challow Childrey last summer.
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Perhaps this should really go on the Members cricket thread but we were asked for our preferred location for our Last Man Stands evening cricket that will start in early May (and can be bloody cold come the evening). Anyways our location is no doubt far less pleasant than yours given that it is at a school in Southwark. Hopefully I can improve my strike rate though, it has been on an upward curve!
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On top of that, I think one of the most damaging things done was when it was decided that the draw should be eliminated from all international and top-flight domestic one-day cricket. One day/single innings cricket wasn't invented in the 1960s - it had been around since the sport's inception, except that sides could play for a draw just as in a longer game.

Personally I would prefer it if most one day cricket was played along the traditional lines - that is, for example, a 100 overs in a day one innings per side one day game, where the side batting first can bat up to 50 overs or declare beforehand, and the side batting second is allotted the remaining overs. If they don't beat the score of the side batting first but are not all out, the game is a draw (or "incomplete win"/"losing draw" respectively) - similar to First Class cricket, really.

Of course anyone suggesting in the 21st century that one-day cricket should be played with a draw element would be dismissed as coming from the Stone Age.
surely in current conditions that would mean the vast majority of games would be drawn. Presumably thats why such formats were abandoned just like first class cricket were extended with extra days.

But something like this is worth trying in a post-first class world
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surely in current conditions that would mean the vast majority of games would be drawn.
It would certainly be an issue.

But what could be included in one-day cricket would be a bonus points system similar to that employed in league cricket.

It wouldn't be possible in knock-out games of courese but would be possible in group games and ODI series. Then if, say, one side has scored 350 off 50 and the opposition is 30-4 after 15. instead of the remaining 35 overs being a write-off, you would have the fielding side pushing to try and take the remaining six wickets for maximum bonus points and the batting side trying to deny them. Thus instead of these scenarios being boring you would in fact get very attacking fields in a one-day match, and a completely different scenario to the game.
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