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Old 24th March 2015, 16:20   #21
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Hildreth falls one run short of a second half century in the match, continuing his fine record in representative games. He's still only 30 and yet seems to have long been the forgotten man of English batting. I recall around seven or eight years ago, he was being touted as a future Test number 4 or 5; since then, he's put together a pretty consistent career with Somerset (not one 'poor' season) and an impressive record for The Lions. Clearly deemed solid enough for an MCC outing but never even casually mentioned for other honours these days.
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Hildreth falls one run short of a second half century in the match, continuing his fine record in representative games. He's still only 30 and yet seems to have long been the forgotten man of English batting. I recall around seven or eight years ago, he was being touted as a future Test number 4 or 5; since then, he's put together a pretty consistent career with Somerset (not one 'poor' season) and an impressive record for The Lions. Clearly deemed solid enough for an MCC outing but never even casually mentioned for other honours these days.
Case of a bad couple of seasons at the wrong moment, hasn't it been? Compared to Lyth whose career has taken an upturn as England's openers have struggled
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Case of a bad couple of seasons at the wrong moment, hasn't it been? Compared to Lyth whose career has taken an upturn as England's openers have struggled
Well, a couple of less than stunning ones - averaging around the 35 mark.

It's more around 2012 I'm thinking of. Hildreth had enjoyed a very good Lions tour (as skipper) twelve months earlier and was in decent county nick, but several younger batting prospects got the call instead. At that point, I suspect he realised his chance had gone. A Somerset fan once suggested he was possibly too similar to Bell in style and tempo....?
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Old 24th March 2015, 20:02   #24
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Well, a couple of less than stunning ones - averaging around the 35 mark.

It's more around 2012 I'm thinking of. Hildreth had enjoyed a very good Lions tour (as skipper) twelve months earlier and was in decent county nick, but several younger batting prospects got the call instead. At that point, I suspect he realised his chance had gone. A Somerset fan once suggested he was possibly too similar to Bell in style and tempo....?
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Ouch.
Yeah, must be really painful to be compared to England's 10th highest Test runscorer of all time with a higher average than Gooch, Gower, Vaughan etc etc etc.
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I think that some posters on this forum have become detached from reality.

There is also a tendency to regard a player's failure to live up to the expectations of him as a 16 year old as failure full stop.
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I think that some posters on this forum have become detached from reality.

There is also a tendency to regard a player's failure to live up to the expectations of him as a 16 year old as failure full stop.
I'm not sure reality has shown his face round here for quite some time.
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I'm not sure reality has shown his face round here for quite some time.
Recognition of the problem is the first step. Well done.
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Case of a bad couple of seasons at the wrong moment, hasn't it been? Compared to Lyth whose career has taken an upturn as England's openers have struggled
Taylor will be the next one...
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I hope my post hasn't come across as bracketing Hildreth as a failure, or dissing Ian Bell; neither outcome was my intention. I admire both.

I'm just iinterested by players who are talked up by pundits, embraced by the England structure (in which they do pretty well) and then seemingly vanish from everyone's consciousness. Steven Davies was mentioned somewhere recently; still only 29, he was England's reserve 'keeper during the 2010/11 Ashes but is now not even taking the gloves at his county. I think I find the 'nearly men' stories more intriguing than those of the 'heroes'.
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I hope my post hasn't come across as bracketing Hildreth as a failure, or dissing Ian Bell; neither outcome was my intention. I admire both.

I'm just iinterested by players who are talked up by pundits, embraced by the England structure (in which they do pretty well) and then seemingly vanish from everyone's consciousness. Steven Davies was mentioned somewhere recently; still only 29, he was England's reserve 'keeper during the 2010/11 Ashes but is now not even taking the gloves at his county. I think I find the 'nearly men' stories more intriguing than those of the 'heroes'.
I'm certain it wasn't.

It's also interesting how some players are very hyped up, and others not/barely at all. As I mentioned in another thread, I noted that 22-year-old Charlie Morris of Worcestershire took 52 wickets last season at around 26, in his very first county season, yet I've never seen him mentioned as an England prospect.
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I'm certain it wasn't.

It's also interesting how some players are very hyped up, and others not/barely at all. As I mentioned in another thread, I noted that 22-year-old Charlie Morris of Worcestershire took 52 wickets last season at around 26, in his very first county season, yet I've never seen him mentioned as an England prospect.
In 2008 James Tomlinson was the leading wicket taker with 67 wickets at 24.76 and top in 2010 Gemaal Hussain with 67 at 22.34. They weren't talked about either. Tomlinson is a steady wicket taker at Hants and Hussain has disappeared. Last match played June 2013. I suppose a bowler has to be top wicket taker for more than a season to be talked about unless he bowls at 90mph and is about 20 years old.
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Hildreth will have a huge season this year. His attacking intent was not liked by notworthy (phone correctly spelling and I prefer that one) so he became lost. Our middle order this year will be dominant with hildreth, cooper and Allenby. Such a shame about kieswetter.

Basically I am saying don't wrote off hildreth yet. Although he should never be picked in front of vince.
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I'm certain it wasn't.
The response was to the reply "Ouch".
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