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Old 28th November 2014, 13:45   #101
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Looking forward to Kent v Surrey at Beckenham now it's got some proper stands. Closest county venue to my home but only ever seen T20 there before.

Essex away at Colchester for the third time in the last six occasions the fixture has been played.
Not the happiest hunting ground for The Rey of late, as I recall.

Hopefully, we may meet up at Beckenham as there'll only be about 26 others there.
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I don't understand why the early CC games don't start on Saturdays.

Surely that would be beneficial for more people? It's not as if they would take the Sundays away - they would just be day 2 instead.

Of course I understand starting on Sundays when the t20 Blast is on - yet then there are dates such as Surrey playing at t20 in Cardiff on Friday night June 26 and then starting a CC game at the Oval... on the Saturday!!!
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Old 28th November 2014, 14:39   #103
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I don't understand why the early CC games don't start on Saturdays.

Surely that would be beneficial for more people? It's not as if they would take the Sundays away - they would just be day 2 instead.

Of course I understand starting on Sundays when the t20 Blast is on - yet then there are dates such as Surrey playing at t20 in Cardiff on Friday night June 26 and then starting a CC game at the Oval... on the Saturday!!!
Saturday starts would in theory mean one less day to sell to corporates...if county cricket in April and May actually is an attractive event for business beanos.
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Old 28th November 2014, 14:42   #104
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New Forest is a good shout, particularly as there is Paultons Park with Peppa Pig world just off junction 2 of the M27.
They are a bit big for Peppa Pig now - they will be 8 and 6 come the time. Are there any good coastal towns/villages around the New Forest?
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Not the happiest hunting ground for The Rey of late, as I recall.
Our record at Colchester is abysmal.

2009: 9 wicket defeat
2006: innings defeat
1994: innings defeat
1992: match drawn
1987: 3 wicket win (almost fluffed it after being set 147 to win)
1954: match drawn
1939: 10 wicket defeat

Which is a shame, as it's a ground I enjoy going to.
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Old 28th November 2014, 17:17   #106
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Notts playing 2 one dayers at Welbeck Colliery in July came right out of the blue. They will be the first home games played away from Trent Bridge since a Sunday league game against Durham at Cleethorpes in 2004. There had been no talk of it at all, but I suppose you can call it a welcome return to the club's roots, when you consider how many fast bowlers the mining communities of North Notts provided to the club down the years.

Unfortunately, I shall not be there as it clashes with a significant birthday of mine, and Mrs. Supersax will be taking me away for a weekend to somewhere slightly more exotic than Welbeck Colliery!
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Notts playing 2 one dayers at Welbeck Colliery in July came right out of the blue. They will be the first home games played away from Trent Bridge since a Sunday league game against Durham at Cleethorpes in 2004. There had been no talk of it at all, but I suppose you can call it a welcome return to the club's roots, when you consider how many fast bowlers the mining communities of North Notts provided to the club down the years.

Unfortunately, I shall not be there as it clashes with a significant birthday of mine, and Mrs. Supersax will be taking me away for a weekend to somewhere slightly more exotic than Welbeck Colliery!
I went to that one. I remember getting stung by a wasp!

Pleased about the Welbeck fixtures.
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Old 28th November 2014, 19:25   #108
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They are a bit big for Peppa Pig now - they will be 8 and 6 come the time. Are there any good coastal towns/villages around the New Forest?
Lymington is very nice. And you can get a car ferry across to the Isle of Wight from there.

Lyndhurst a bit inland is quite pleasant as well. After that you're looking at heading into Christchurch and/or Bournemouth. There's good sandy beaches from Highcliffe onward in a westerly direction.

And if you fancy going a little further afield, the Isle of Purbeck and Swanage are very nice.
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Notts playing 2 one dayers at Welbeck Colliery in July came right out of the blue. They will be the first home games played away from Trent Bridge since a Sunday league game against Durham at Cleethorpes in 2004. There had been no talk of it at all, but I suppose you can call it a welcome return to the club's roots, when you consider how many fast bowlers the mining communities of North Notts provided to the club down the years.

Unfortunately, I shall not be there as it clashes with a significant birthday of mine, and Mrs. Supersax will be taking me away for a weekend to somewhere slightly more exotic than Welbeck Colliery!
A rare case of a county playing outside its borders.
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Old 29th November 2014, 10:35   #110
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^^^^^

Sorry to be pedantic, but its not as rare as you think.

Glamorgan play a championship match & a one day game at Rhos On Sea in North Wales every year.

Leicester play at Oakham School, in Rutland.

Durham played at Gateshead Fell (Tyne & Wear) for their first 3 seasons & in 2014 played a one day match at Gosforth, also in Tyne & Wear.

Northants used to play Sunday League matches outside the county (Milton Keynes)

Derbyhire have played one day matches outside the county & played in Leek, Staffordshire as recently as 2010.

To be really naughty, Middlesex no longer exists & Lancashire only play in Lancs at Blackpool as Old Trafford is in Greater Manchester & Aigburth is in Merseyside.

Finally, there is an amusing story of counties playing outside their borders. In 2005 Yorks played a one day match against Notts at Cleethorpes. One irate Yorks member wrote to the club to complain about a match being staged outside the county. The club wrote back explaining the match was a Notts home game !!
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Sorry to be pedantic, but its not as rare as you think.

Glamorgan play a championship match & a one day game at Rhos On Sea in North Wales every year.

Leicester play at Oakham School, in Rutland.

Durham played at Gateshead Fell (Tyne & Wear) for their first 3 seasons & in 2014 played a one day match at Gosforth, also in Tyne & Wear.

Northants used to play Sunday League matches outside the county (Milton Keynes)

Derbyhire have played one day matches outside the county & played in Leek, Staffordshire as recently as 2010.

To be really naughty, Middlesex no longer exists & Lancashire only play in Lancs at Blackpool as Old Trafford is in Greater Manchester & Aigburth is in Merseyside.

Finally, there is an amusing story of counties playing outside their borders. In 2005 Yorks played a one day match against Notts at Cleethorpes. One irate Yorks member wrote to the club to complain about a match being staged outside the county. The club wrote back explaining the match was a Notts home game !!
Could be really naughty and suggest that Yorkshire once played a number of home games out of county when Hull was deemed to be part of the short-lived county of Humberside. I'd imagine any cricket fan born in Hull would have been as chuffed at having his Yorkshire heritage denied as I am when folks insist "Nerr, you're a Londoner really".

For cricketing purposes, I go by the traditional county boundaries at the time the Championship was set up. Thus, the first man to score a Test hundred was a Kentishman (The Aussie opener Charles Bannerman being born in Woolwich).
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Lymington is very nice. And you can get a car ferry across to the Isle of Wight from there.

Lyndhurst a bit inland is quite pleasant as well. After that you're looking at heading into Christchurch and/or Bournemouth. There's good sandy beaches from Highcliffe onward in a westerly direction.

And if you fancy going a little further afield, the Isle of Purbeck and Swanage are very nice.
Thanks. I will look into it between now and then.
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^^^^^

Sorry to be pedantic, but its not as rare as you think.

Glamorgan play a championship match & a one day game at Rhos On Sea in North Wales every year.

Leicester play at Oakham School, in Rutland.

Durham played at Gateshead Fell (Tyne & Wear) for their first 3 seasons & in 2014 played a one day match at Gosforth, also in Tyne & Wear.

Northants used to play Sunday League matches outside the county (Milton Keynes)

Derbyhire have played one day matches outside the county & played in Leek, Staffordshire as recently as 2010.

To be really naughty, Middlesex no longer exists & Lancashire only play in Lancs at Blackpool as Old Trafford is in Greater Manchester & Aigburth is in Merseyside.

Finally, there is an amusing story of counties playing outside their borders. In 2005 Yorks played a one day match against Notts at Cleethorpes. One irate Yorks member wrote to the club to complain about a match being staged outside the county. The club wrote back explaining the match was a Notts home game !!
Well considering the number of matches played in a summer and the number played outside of a county, i'd say it is rare, particularly as the likes of Durham and Derbyshire dont visit Gateshead or Leek year on year as Glamorgan do at Rhos.

Leicestershire havent played at Oakham for a few years now whist the whole Middlesex and Lancashire thing really is an irrelevant point as i dont see Greater London, Merseyside or Greater Manchester in either the first class or minor counties structure.
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Might need a pass from Mrs T!

Have earmarked the game against Middlesex as a potential alternative.
Yes, well if you want to watch uni v county cricket any more you will need to get your skates on - possibly literally, as the last day of any uni v county is April 14.

Sadly the days of sitting under a shady tree watching the students chase leather around against counties at sun-kissed The Parks or Fenner's in June has been truly consigned to the dustbin.
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Having studied the Surrey fixture list a bit more closely I notice the so-called "appointment to view" by having matches on consistent days of the week already seems to be eroding. Just seven of Surrey's Championship matches start on Sundays and six start on Mondays or Tuesdays, therefore taking place exclusively on weekdays, including all of the final three fixtures and the Guildford festival match, which is in school term time. No doubt it's only a matter of time before we hear fresh calls for a cull in the number of Championship fixtures on the basis that not enough people are turning up to watch.
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Could be really naughty and suggest that Yorkshire once played a number of home games out of county when Hull was deemed to be part of the short-lived county of Humberside. I'd imagine any cricket fan born in Hull would have been as chuffed at having his Yorkshire heritage denied as I am when folks insist "Nerr, you're a Londoner really".

For cricketing purposes, I go by the traditional county boundaries at the time the Championship was set up. Thus, the first man to score a Test hundred was a Kentishman (The Aussie opener Charles Bannerman being born in Woolwich).
For all purposes, I go by proper county boundaries- I largely grew up in Balham, Surrey. Thankfully I still live just on the correct side of Deptford Creek to not be in Kent.
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Having studied the Surrey fixture list a bit more closely I notice the so-called "appointment to view" by having matches on consistent days of the week already seems to be eroding. Just seven of Surrey's Championship matches start on Sundays and six start on Mondays or Tuesdays, therefore taking place exclusively on weekdays, including all of the final three fixtures and the Guildford festival match, which is in school term time. No doubt it's only a matter of time before we hear fresh calls for a cull in the number of Championship fixtures on the basis that not enough people are turning up to watch.
That's partly why I wondered why they don't just start on Saturdays in April anyway.

The games were supposed to start on Sundays to dovetail with t20s on a Friday, allowing a rest day on Saturday. But in reality the schedule is so cramped (there are plenty of t20s on other days) that when it "matters" actually less games start on the Sunday - I think Surrey are in Cardiff for a t20 on a Friday and then have to be at the Oval for a CC game the next day.

I understand that Saturdays are competing with football and rugby in April, but are they actually worse for people than a Tuesday and Wednesday?

And I can't believe it's for corporate reasons - when I've been to the Oval in April and September the corporate viewing boxes are all unused.
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That's partly why I wondered why they don't just start on Saturdays in April anyway.

The games were supposed to start on Sundays to dovetail with t20s on a Friday, allowing a rest day on Saturday. But in reality the schedule is so cramped (there are plenty of t20s on other days) that when it "matters" actually less games start on the Sunday - I think Surrey are in Cardiff for a t20 on a Friday and then have to be at the Oval for a CC game the next day.

I understand that Saturdays are competing with football and rugby in April, but are they actually worse for people than a Tuesday and Wednesday?

And I can't believe it's for corporate reasons - when I've been to the Oval in April and September the corporate viewing boxes are all unused.
They're probably worse for county members who often reserve the weekends for family matters, with their weekday county cricket being sacrosanct.

In all honesty, I'm not sure if it would make much difference either way. In which case, why not go ahead with a few Saturdays?
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In all honesty, I'm not sure if it would make much difference either way. In which case, why not go ahead with a few Saturdays?
Indeed.

The main reason I raised it is because I've come across quite a few people on here and other county forums who have been quite vocal about the lack of cricket on Saturdays.

As you say, whether staging games on Saturdays would see 5,000, or even 1,000 people pouring into the grounds is another matter.
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Indeed.

The main reason I raised it is because I've come across quite a few people on here and other county forums who have been quite vocal about the lack of cricket on Saturdays.

As you say, whether staging games on Saturdays would see 5,000, or even 1,000 people pouring into the grounds is another matter.
If all the people I've ever heard bemoan the lack of Saturday cricket actually turned up on the occasions where play is scheduled for that day, we'd be seeing the kind of attendances that the authorities would find impossible to ignore.
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