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Old 29th June 2015, 08:11   #1
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ECB really fouled up!

What on earth are the ECB up to?! For the second time this season there was a Saturday of CC scheduled in London this past weekend. And of course what happened, a good-sized crowd turned up at the Oval! Never mind that the fare on offer was dishwater-dull (partly due to both counties having had to travel up from T20 duty in the west country late the previous evening); but any more scheduling 'slips' of this nature and the ECB will have to look for even more ways to kill the CC format!
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Old 29th June 2015, 10:00   #2
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Saturday cricket, or the lack of it, has already been discussed extensively on this thread:

http://www.cricket247.org/community/...ad.php?t=15842

I don't want to go over it all again but personally I would like there to be much more Saturday cricket.

All the more baffling, as you point out, is the fact that the games supposedly start on Sunday partly to give players a rest day after t20 on the Friday night - yet here they'd both been playing the previous evening hundreds of miles away!
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Old 30th June 2015, 14:30   #3
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What on earth are the ECB up to?! For the second time this season there was a Saturday of CC scheduled in London this past weekend. And of course what happened, a good-sized crowd turned up at the Oval! Never mind that the fare on offer was dishwater-dull (partly due to both counties having had to travel up from T20 duty in the west country late the previous evening); but any more scheduling 'slips' of this nature and the ECB will have to look for even more ways to kill the CC format!
There must have been at least 3,000 there on a lovely sunny day. I haven't seen an attendance that big at The Oval since the final day of the 2007 season, when Lancs narrowly failed to chase down a big target at a high run rate when they needed victory to become champions.

But now there's no more weekend championship cricket at The Oval this year. The remaining three games all start on a Monday or Tuesday. So much for the so-called 'appointment to view' Championship matches on a Sunday.

I didn't think the cricket was 'dull' though. Surrey batted patiently on an obvious 'result' pitch to ultimately build an impregnable total.
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Old 30th June 2015, 17:59   #4
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But now there's no more weekend championship cricket at The Oval this year. The remaining three games all start on a Monday or Tuesday. So much for the so-called 'appointment to view' Championship matches on a Sunday.
This of course seems like lunacy. But all those weekends before those fixtures are "blocked off". The first, against kent, because Kent have a t20 game on the Sunday.

The second, against Derbyshire, because August 29 is t20 finals day with Sunday as the reserve day.

The third, against Northants, because September 19 is RL Cup final day with Sunday as the reserve day.

I've come to the conclusion that the fixture list needs a big re-think.
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Old 1st July 2015, 13:54   #5
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I've come to the conclusion that the fixture list needs a big re-think.
Likewise. None of the three remaining Championship matches has any weekend play, and none of them is in the school holidays, meaning no schoolchildren will see Championship cricket at The Oval before next April unless they're close enough to get there for an evening session after school. Instead of everything stopping for the T20 in mid-June, everything now stops for the CB50 in mid-July, presumably as that's when Sky Sports have space to fill in their schedules.

During the recent match with Lancs Surrey held their annual open day for local schools, who are given free tickets by the thousand. A friend of mine attended with a party of secondary school children and after play had been in progress for half an hour or so one of the children asked: "Sir, when are they going to start?" The pace was so slow to the untrained eye compared to the limited overs stuff the lad assumed they were just warming up, and that whites were some sort of training kit. I'm beginning to fear for the future of the first class game as we know it.
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Old 2nd July 2015, 17:03   #6
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The pace was so slow to the untrained eye compared to the limited overs stuff the lad assumed they were just warming up, and that whites were some sort of training kit. I'm beginning to fear for the future of the first class game as we know it.
well I certainly fear for it too., but I actually hope the FC game as we know it does die. As great a game as it is, it is also incredibly slow and basically unwatchable leaving it in a weird state. appreciated but ignored.

It shouldnt be like this. Historically, when the 3-day game yielded many more results than the modern 4-variety, it was a very different affair probably as similar to T20 as to the 4-day game. Now with one-day cricket its a choice between a slow game and a dumb game, where it used to be just a great game.

I am still somewhat optimistic though. The effetc from T20 and the NZ approach leaves room for hope
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Old 2nd July 2015, 17:15   #7
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What on earth are the ECB up to?! For the second time this season there was a Saturday of CC scheduled in London this past weekend. And of course what happened, a good-sized crowd turned up at the Oval! Never mind that the fare on offer was dishwater-dull (partly due to both counties having had to travel up from T20 duty in the west country late the previous evening); but any more scheduling 'slips' of this nature and the ECB will have to look for even more ways to kill the CC format!
The sarcasm makes little sense. Saturday cricket is at the very least debatable. I am sure it has only been phased out because of poor attendances. Friday night T20 may make saturday FC cricket difficult but thats not the real issue as thursday night has generally been considered almost as good for T20.

It may have been a fine crowd at the oval but it was also a rare saturday in the very brief window that the general public consider the cricket season but also before the ashes begin. Add some fine weather and you have a very unusual situation.

There may be a case for trying more saturday cricket on non-international weekends in june and july but I doubt little more than that.

I still think the game is too long and too slow for saturdays in its current state. Its best watched by those with a lot of time at their disposal and they are best served during the week
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Old 5th July 2015, 17:14   #8
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By the title this should be the longest thread on the board.
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Old 5th July 2015, 17:32   #9
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No professional cricket in London AND the home counties today.

So much for appointment to view.
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No professional cricket in London AND the home counties today.

So much for appointment to view.
In fact, none for the next three days (and not a particularly enticing forecast for Leicester )

And yet, next week, Essex, Middx and Surrey all have home CC matches.
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In fact, none for the next three days (and not a particularly enticing forecast for Leicester )

And yet, next week, Essex, Middx and Surrey all have home CC matches.
While Essex, Middx, Sussex & Kent all have away games this week and Surrey don't play. Ridiculous. And we then have a five match Ashes series beginning this week in which there is no game north of Nottingham.
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