County Championship Division Two 2017 - Page 8

ScottyMuser · 21st June 2017, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Rigs

Perfect result between Kent and Worcs for Notts would be a draw. Essex got promoted last season on 235 points. We are currently on 148.

But that was from 2 more matches and only 1 going up, so always going to be a higher number than that required this season. Last year Kent got 212 off 16 in 2nd, and Worcs got 203. I'd be shoked if 190-200 isn't enough this year for 2nd, and 210 for 1st outright - Notts could probably draw all their remaining fixtures and still go up - a win in the Kent/Worcs game, especially for kent who only have to play Notts once, would actually be a step forward for Notts to guaranteed promotion, but at the expense of making the fight for 1st closer. Given who Notts still have to play, 2 wins and 2 draws would be around 60 points, so they can even afford a loss or two (hopefully to Kent!)

**stevieh** · 21st June 2017, 18:07

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Originally Posted by ScottyMuser

It could be a concern about Ali's bowling, or it could be more an indication of how completely useless he actually is in the longer forms at trying to take wickets - seems unfair to compare Shah, who in the last 18 months has 73 test wickets from 14 matches, SR of 64 and Average of 35.9 with Ali, who in the same time has 37 from 17 matches, SR of 86 and Average of 53, then concluding that Shah won't be able to, on a 4th day wicket (instead of 3rd day), take wickets

Fair points, Scotty, although Yasir hasn't been doing too well with the ball for Kent, thus far. It was more a comment about the wicket as the match gets into the final day and a half, and Kent's ability to bowl teams out.

Now Ali has snaffled Adam Rouse and Coles, I see, but Kent's lead is well over 300 and Denly still going strong.

YAMS · 21st June 2017, 18:12

Leicestershire have beaten Samit Patel by 21 runs.

I bet he doesn't forfeit an innings in his next match.

ScottyMuser · 21st June 2017, 18:21

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Originally Posted by stevieh

Fair points, Scotty, although Yasir hasn't been doing too well with the ball for Kent, thus far. It was more a comment about the wicket as the match gets into the final day and a half, and Kent's ability to bowl teams out.

Now Ali has snaffled Adam Rouse and Coles, I see, but Kent's lead is well over 300 and Denly still going strong.

Oh I agree - although I'd say that 4 wins out of 6 matches, with the other two being a draw vs Leics on a batting paradise, and then the only match where we were distinctly the 2nd best, vs Durham, where we still took 16 wickets, suggests we are better this year at the bowling malarkey than in previous seasons. Even if it is largely down to the indefatigable Stevens. Coles seems to have re-found his mojo a bit this game, and if we were to declare in the next 6 overs say, and have 7/8 overs to have a pop at them tonight, we would still have a lead of ~360 and they'd have 104 overs to survive, which could be tricky. Draw is still probably marginally the favourite result however

**stevieh** · 21st June 2017, 19:07

There we are then; Kent have set them essentially 400 to win and a full day and a bit to survive. Joe Denly, last man out, attains his highest first-class score of 227 in a superb effort.

Rigs · 22nd June 2017, 10:54

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Originally Posted by ScottyMuser

But that was from 2 more matches and only 1 going up, so always going to be a higher number than that required this season. Last year Kent got 212 off 16 in 2nd, and Worcs got 203. I'd be shoked if 190-200 isn't enough this year for 2nd, and 210 for 1st outright - Notts could probably draw all their remaining fixtures and still go up - a win in the Kent/Worcs game, especially for kent who only have to play Notts once, would actually be a step forward for Notts to guaranteed promotion, but at the expense of making the fight for 1st closer. Given who Notts still have to play, 2 wins and 2 draws would be around 60 points, so they can even afford a loss or two (hopefully to Kent!)

Yes slight mis-calculation on my part, I had 16 games in my head

. As you quite rightly say 210+ should secure 1st place. Yes a Kent win in their game v Worcs and a Notts win v Kent would mean that it would be Notts' promotion to lose.

Supersax · 22nd June 2017, 16:56

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Originally Posted by YAMS

Leicestershire have beaten Samit Patel by 21 runs.

I bet he doesn't forfeit an innings in his next match.

If you discount the extras, Samit beat Leics by an innings and 13 :-)

Worcs making their run chase against Kent look easy

Bestie · 22nd June 2017, 20:10

Perhaps an indication too that the pitch was pretty lifeless.

**stevieh** · 23rd June 2017, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Bestie

Perhaps an indication too that the pitch was pretty lifeless.

After Moeen took the attack to Kent, Joe Clarke was able to pick up where he left off. Seems the pitch improved as the match wore on, with Kent's first innings 260 the low-water mark.

paulsre · 26th June 2017, 17:30

Ben Duckett has cracked 100 in the first session v Leicestershire - in this case a hundred before tea.

sanskritsimon · 26th June 2017, 17:45

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Originally Posted by paulsre

Ben Duckett has cracked 100 in the first session v Leicestershire - in this case a hundred before tea.

In the commentary I was listening to (Glam vs Derbys) they suggested that the first break be called the lea break and the second break the tupper break ...

**Zebroston Chase** · 26th June 2017, 21:03

Michael Vaughan was all about lumping of Durham to win yesterday and this morning. Not sure that would've been a smart investment (or why you'd listen to Vaughan about anything apart from maybe tactics from the series' he played in).

sanskritsimon · 26th June 2017, 22:51

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Originally Posted by James Zebrorter

Michael Vaughan was all about lumping of Durham to win yesterday and this morning. Not sure that would've been a smart investment (or why you'd listen to Vaughan about anything apart from maybe tactics from the series' he played in).

Is he gambling away his hard-won fortune?

Prince of Denmark · 27th June 2017, 11:48

Two more Surrey players out on loan with Arun Harinath & Matt Pillians in the Leics XI for this round.

paulsre · 27th June 2017, 12:03

Derbyshire's Hamidullah Qadri has become the first person to play county cricket who was born in the 2000s. He was born on December 5, 2000.

1000yardstare · 27th June 2017, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Prince of Denmark

Two more Surrey players out on loan with Arun Harinath & Matt Pillians in the Leics XI for this round.

After a successful game with Derbys they have recalled 19 year old McKerr who took 10 wickets against Northants.

**geoff_boycotts_grandmother** · 27th June 2017, 19:47

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Originally Posted by paulsre

Derbyshire's Hamidullah Qadri has become the first person to play county cricket who was born in the 2000s. He was born on December 5, 2000.

So nearly born in 2001!

slowest_bowler · 27th June 2017, 20:43

Jake Ball injured? Fletcher is completing his over.

Essexfan · 27th June 2017, 23:28

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Originally Posted by paulsre

Derbyshire's Hamidullah Qadri has become the first person to play county cricket who was born in the 2000s. He was born on December 5, 2000.

Someone mentioned to me yesterday that he looked a lot older than that in his Cricinfo picture and he certainly doesn't look 16! He was born in Afghanistan so perhaps his age is calculated like some of the Pakistanis like Afridi calculate theirs.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...r/1094348.html

**stevieh** · 29th June 2017, 16:11

Rain has intervened in Kent's favour, making a draw possible although still pretty unlikely, barring loss of time in the post-tea session.

Edit: Scratch that; with Darren Stevens unavailable to bat, Kent are effectively 8 down and there are up to 60 plus overs available when play begins in just over half hour.

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21st June 2017, 18:12	#143
YAMS Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 7,352	Leicestershire have beaten Samit Patel by 21 runs. I bet he doesn't forfeit an innings in his next match.

21st June 2017, 19:07	#145
stevieh Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Team(s): England, Kent, Canada Posts: 7,145	There we are then; Kent have set them essentially 400 to win and a full day and a bit to survive. Joe Denly, last man out, attains his highest first-class score of 227 in a superb effort.

22nd June 2017, 20:10	#148
Bestie International Material Join Date: May 2016 Location: Exeter Posts: 1,477	Perhaps an indication too that the pitch was pretty lifeless.

26th June 2017, 17:30	#150
paulsre World Class Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, Farsta BCCE, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC Posts: 6,164	Ben Duckett has cracked 100 in the first session v Leicestershire - in this case a hundred before tea.

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Prince of Denmark International Cricketer Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Sydenham Hill Team(s): Surrey CCC, Dulwich Hamlet FC, England Age: 52 Posts: 2,079	Two more Surrey players out on loan with Arun Harinath & Matt Pillians in the Leics XI for this round.

27th June 2017, 12:03	#155
paulsre World Class Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In a class 101 Met Cam time machine to the past Team(s): Stockholm Taverners CC, Farsta BCCE, County cricket, MCCU cricket, England, Scarborough CC Posts: 6,164	Derbyshire's Hamidullah Qadri has become the first person to play county cricket who was born in the 2000s. He was born on December 5, 2000.