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Old 14th January 2018, 10:47   #101
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Well Roy misses the chance to make the first double hundred chasing and indeed the high score of 185 (held by watson).
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Old 14th January 2018, 10:50   #102
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Well Roy misses the chance to make the first double hundred chasing and indeed the high score of 185 (held by watson).
Oh god, I remember that. Watson hoicked 100 of those runs to cow corner. It was awful to watch.
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Old 14th January 2018, 11:18   #103
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A 5 wicket defeat with 7 balls to spare really flatters the Aussies. This was an absolute cake-walk almost from ball one. Roy will rightly get the headlines but Root controlled the innings superbly.
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Old 14th January 2018, 11:27   #104
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A 5 wicket defeat with 7 balls to spare really flatters the Aussies. This was an absolute cake-walk almost from ball one. Roy will rightly get the headlines but Root controlled the innings superbly.
Well after Roy departed, England made heavy weather of the chase to bring the sides closer than they were.
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Old 14th January 2018, 12:01   #105
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This is basically a reverse of what happened in the Ashes. Here England know what their best side is, they have picked their best possible options and know what the best way to play is.

Australia don't have a clue what their best side is, they may not have picked their best available options and they don't know what the best way to play is.

A bit of a question pops up, for me anyway: is Smith's place in the ODI side warranted on recent performances? He hasn't got a century in almost a year of regular ODI cricket, he looks a bit too robotic for the modern game and 2 of his 3 fifties have come at a rate too slow for a modern, middle order ODI batsman.

Considering he no longer bowls, why is he in the side?
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Old 14th January 2018, 12:14   #106
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This is basically a reverse of what happened in the Ashes. Here England know what their best side is, they have picked their best possible options and know what the best way to play is.

Australia don't have a clue what their best side is, they may not have picked their best available options and they don't know what the best way to play is.

A bit of a question pops up, for me anyway: is Smith's place in the ODI side warranted on recent performances? He hasn't got a century in almost a year of regular ODI cricket, he looks a bit too robotic for the modern game and 2 of his 3 fifties have come at a rate too slow for a modern, middle order ODI batsman.

Considering he no longer bowls, why is he in the side?
To be fair, Australia were similarly shambolic in the year or so leading up to the last world cup, then when the time came they got their act together (Smith was sublime averaging 67 with the bat and Starc 10.18(!!!) with the ball.) So they can mix and match and **** fart about all they want as long as they turn up and perform when it matters in 2019.
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Old 14th January 2018, 12:41   #107
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A 5 wicket defeat with 7 balls to spare really flatters the Aussies. This was an absolute cake-walk almost from ball one. Roy will rightly get the headlines but Root controlled the innings superbly.
Great toss to win if you live here. Was pelting down for 24 hrs prior to toss
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Old 14th January 2018, 15:02   #108
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Excellent performance to chase 300 at MCG like that. A couple of the bowlers were expensive - Plunkett and Rashid - yet they took wickets which kept Australia from getting away.
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Old 14th January 2018, 16:27   #109
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A 5 wicket defeat with 7 balls to spare really flatters the Aussies. This was an absolute cake-walk almost from ball one. Roy will rightly get the headlines but Root controlled the innings superbly.
There'll be some who say Root scored too slowly, when he did exactly what was needed to win the game, and has done over and over again. Roy plays in a nice orthodox style, so I don't see why he wouldn't work in Tests. Could just be down to shot selection, and if someone as thick as Warner can manage it I don't see why Roy can't.
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Old 14th January 2018, 16:34   #110
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There'll be some who say Root scored too slowly, when he did exactly what was needed to win the game, and has done over and over again. Roy plays in a nice orthodox style, so I don't see why he wouldn't work in Tests. Could just be down to shot selection, and if someone as thick as Warner can manage it I don't see why Roy can't.
I agree. Honestly wouldn’t mind seeing him open up with Cook at Lord’s.

As for Root, he’s an incredible ODI player. So consistent. There’s an argument to say he’s our greatest ever player in that format.
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Old 14th January 2018, 19:24   #111
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There'll be some who say Root scored too slowly, when he did exactly what was needed to win the game, and has done over and over again. ...
I would be surprised if anyone says that about Root's innings today. It was a happy accident that the required total and what was happening at the other end meant that what Root was going to do anyway was just the ticket.
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Old 14th January 2018, 22:01   #112
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...and Ali hit the winning runs... with such a match-winning innings, was his position ever in doubt?
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Old 14th January 2018, 22:56   #113
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To be fair, Australia were similarly shambolic in the year or so leading up to the last world cup, then when the time came they got their act together (Smith was sublime averaging 67 with the bat and Starc 10.18(!!!) with the ball.) So they can mix and match and **** fart about all they want as long as they turn up and perform when it matters in 2019.
A - That is almost 3 years ago

B - England have improved immeasurably since then, India has gotten better and Pakistan are better contenders too

C - Some of the guys from that side have been dropped

D - Smith has not replicated that form for over a year now

E - Aus (much like Ind and Pak) are very good tournament sides but they were on familiar pitches, in a home world cup...and none of that feeds into what the team has been like over the last 12 months or so. As I said, confused.
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Old 14th January 2018, 23:08   #114
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...and Ali hit the winning runs... with such a match-winning innings, was his position ever in doubt?
Your sarcasm obscures the fact that he bowled well.
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Well after Roy departed, England made heavy weather of the chase to bring the sides closer than they were.
"After Roy departed", the game was already won. Neasden Ladies Second XI could have got us home from there.
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As for Root, he’s an incredible ODI player. So consistent. There’s an argument to say he’s our greatest ever player in that format.
Really? Not KP? As an Indian supporter, I can confirm he put the fear of God in the opposition.
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Old 15th January 2018, 06:42   #117
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A - That is almost 3 years ago

B - England have improved immeasurably since then, India has gotten better and Pakistan are better contenders too

C - Some of the guys from that side have been dropped

D - Smith has not replicated that form for over a year now

E - Aus (much like Ind and Pak) are very good tournament sides but they were on familiar pitches, in a home world cup...and none of that feeds into what the team has been like over the last 12 months or so. As I said, confused.
That doesn't really answer his point, though.
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A - That is almost 3 years ago

B - England have improved immeasurably since then, India has gotten better and Pakistan are better contenders too

C - Some of the guys from that side have been dropped

D - Smith has not replicated that form for over a year now

E - Aus (much like Ind and Pak) are very good tournament sides but they were on familiar pitches, in a home world cup...and none of that feeds into what the team has been like over the last 12 months or so. As I said, confused.
True, we've only won 5 world cups to Englands none, so what would we know about ODI cricket.
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Really? Not KP? As an Indian supporter, I can confirm he put the fear of God in the opposition.
KP is up there in the top few I would say, along with Root, Trescothick, Knight, Lamb, Morgan and Gooch.

However KP averaged 41 in his career. Root averages 51 and has already scored more hundreds.

I’d forgotten how successful a player Jonathan Trott was. Higher average that Root. Problem for him will be that he played in a team who got their tactics so wrong and had a disastrous world cup.
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KP is up there in the top few I would say, along with Root, Trescothick, Knight, Lamb, Morgan and Gooch.

However KP averaged 41 in his career. Root averages 51 and has already scored more hundreds.

I’d forgotten how successful a player Jonathan Trott was. Higher average that Root. Problem for him will be that he played in a team who got their tactics so wrong and had a disastrous world cup.
And Trott was part of those terrible tactics.
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