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Old 22nd March 2008, 04:11   #381
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Oh yeah, definitely sensible to bat a player out of position (he doesn't even bat at 3 in the county game) and against his wishes because of an old adage.
Who says he's out of position? You and Kevin? OK then, forget about the 'adage' theory, hows about doing it because it WOULD actually improve the team?

We are currently 178-6, Pietersen is 109 not out. Coincidence or what?
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Old 22nd March 2008, 06:32   #382
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What I find annoying is Atherton shouting loudly OUT before the umpire has actually given the batsman out. This is something he has only started doing recently.
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Old 22nd March 2008, 20:07   #383
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Who says he's out of position? You and Kevin? OK then, forget about the 'adage' theory, hows about doing it because it WOULD actually improve the team?
Err, me, Kevin, everyone who's ever selected him in a FC or test batting line up and pretty much everyone with any sense. Will that do? It WOULD improve the team, would it? Interesting that you appear to be in such a small minority in even contemplating that as the truth though, let alone being confident about it.

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One instance or what? Even then, how do you know he wouldn't have been out early on batting at 3 rather than 4? He wasn't left scratching around with the lower reaches of the tail either, was he? I wouldn't bat him at 5 for that reason but neither would I promote him above 4. Incidentally, back on the adage, did Lara or Steve Waugh and does Kallis bat at 3?
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Old 22nd March 2008, 20:21   #384
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I must say I get sick of commentators saying that your best player bats at 3. As FS says, lots of great players have batted in other positions. Ricky Ponting comes in at three but it doesn't mean everyone else has to.
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Old 22nd March 2008, 20:22   #385
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Where is Nasser Hussain? Is he on holiday, off sick or pursuing other career opportunities?
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Old 22nd March 2008, 20:24   #386
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You just beat me too it there. I was about to post the same question.
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Old 28th March 2008, 00:33   #387
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I missed Hussain on commentary but he had to go home as his father was ill. Hope now everything is ok for the Hussains.
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Old 8th April 2008, 23:08   #388
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I was listening to a commentator on the South Africa v India game who was not very good and found out it was Graham Thorpe. He doesn't seem to talk in sentences, three or four words is the most he likes to use. Is he working for the South African media?
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I was listening to a commentator on the South Africa v India game who was not very good and found out it was Graham Thorpe. He doesn't seem to talk in sentences, three or four words is the most he likes to use. Is he working for the South African media?
Did he still have the Australian accent?
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Did he still have the Australian accent?
No, that's gone. It's a strange one that is why I didn't recognise him.
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I thought it was still there
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I was listening to a commentator on the South Africa v India game who was not very good and found out it was Graham Thorpe. He doesn't seem to talk in sentences, three or four words is the most he likes to use. Is he working for the South African media?
He's working for nimbus sports so is part of their set commentary team, so will probably commentate on any of the matches they wish to cover.

I also thought he still had that slight Aussie twang, but his accent seems a mix from a lot regions.
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Not strictly a comment about commentators except that it concerns Christopher Martin-Jenkins.

Please tell me why, after writing a final article for the newspaper and receiving a farewell accolade from the England cricket team on his resignation as Chief Cricket Correspondent for the Times, is he still writing county cricket reports, as he has done yesterday and today, and where on earth is Michael Atherton, who wrote his last column for the Sunday Telegraph a few weeks ago and should surely have turned up at his new paper for the beginning of the English domestic season?
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I doubt very much that Athers will be interested in or writing about English domestic cricket. He'll appear when the first England squad is due to be announced.
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I doubt very much that Athers will be interested in or writing about English domestic cricket. He'll appear when the first England squad is due to be announced.
But that is the job he has signed the contract for. Chief Cricket writer includes writing about county cricket, and this was talked about when he got the job, people saying that he'd have to work a lot harder and go and watch county cricket. Of course, as a Sky commentator he has already found himself having to commentate on some of the domestic games that Sky covers, but maybe the reality of having to sit at the Oval or wherever for four days and write up a match in its entirety is causing a rethink.

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But that is the job he has signed the contract for. Chief Cricket writer includes writing about county cricket, and this was talked about when he got the job, people saying that he'd have to work a lot harder and go and watch county cricket. Of course, as a Sky commentator he has already found himself having to commentate on some of the domestic games that Sky covers, but the reality of having to sit at the Oval or wherever for four days and write up a match in its entirety is causing a rethink.
I'm sure he'd be happy to write on county cricket but probably more along the lines of how hopeless it is than in terms of match reports. It's a bit early in the season to judge him though, isn't it?
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I'm sure he'd be happy to write on county cricket but probably more along the lines of how hopeless it is than in terms of match reports. It's a bit early in the season to judge him though, isn't it?
I was speculating, meant to say that maybe he was having second thoughts.

In that post I was responding to HDNB who seemed to think that Athers wouldn't be required to cover county cricket, but that was certainly in the job description, at least I assume it was. Of course it might be a simple matter such as his contract not starting until 1st May or something.

I only mentioned it in the first place because I was so surprised to see CMJ still submitting reports, I'd have thought he'd have been glad to sit back and enjoy the cricket without having to write about it.
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I was speculating, meant to say that maybe he was having second thoughts.

In that post I was responding to HDNB who seemed to think that Athers wouldn't be required to cover county cricket, but that was certainly in the job description, at least I assume it was. Of course it might be a simple matter such as his contract not starting until 1st May or something.

I only mentioned it in the first place because I was so surprised to see CMJ still submitting reports, I'd have thought he'd have been glad to sit back and enjoy the cricket without having to write about it.
I expect that CMJ can't sit down at the cricket without wanting to tap away on his laptop, if he can remember how the thing opens and why the keys don't get stuck if he hits two of them at once.
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In that post I was responding to HDNB who seemed to think that Athers wouldn't be required to cover county cricket, but that was certainly in the job description, at least I assume it was.
I was suggesting that Athers would have no interest in it and would have tried to mould the job description away from it were it at all possible. I assume the Times approached him rather than the other way around so he had some bargaining power, although I could be wrong in this assumption.
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I was suggesting that Athers would have no interest in it and would have tried to mould the job description away from it were it at all possible. I assume the Times approached him rather than the other way around so he had some bargaining power, although I could be wrong in this assumption.
You could possibly be right; maybe Athers will indeed be writing general stuff about the state of county cricket, the IPL and anything else in the news, as he did on the Telegraph, in between writing proper reports on the test matches, with someone like Richard Hobson doing the county cricket matches. The job description of "chief cricket writer" could have been changed to accommodate him. However, that would seem to be cheating the Times readership somewhat.
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