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Old 15th August 2016, 11:18   #41
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... it has the ring of spoilt brat petulance.
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Old 15th August 2016, 11:52   #42
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... it has the ring of spoilt brat petulance.
From what I have read he didn't knock first, just barged in, had a go at the third umpire and after some abuse left. Played 11 Tests.

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Stuart Broad has become the second England cricketer to be fined during the fourth Test with Pakistan, having been relieved of 20% of his match fee around 2,000 for questioning a decision on social media.

While Hales saw his fine made public during the second day of the Test, the decision on Broad was delayed while the fast bowler considered challenging it.

I thought the match fee was 5000. I wonder why Broad received a 20% and Hales 15%.

Then we have Anderson and his bad behavour to the umpires and Cook had to tell him to apologise. He should have got a fine as well.
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Old 15th August 2016, 12:29   #43
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I wonder why Broad received a 20% and Hales 15%.
Probably because it isn't the first tie he's been in there!
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Old 15th August 2016, 13:05   #44
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5000 for an ODI, 12,000 for a test match apparently. Nice work if you can get it!
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Old 15th August 2016, 13:07   #45
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The Umpires are not some sort of Lords whom we dare not question or even look in the eye without permission.

The players are well within their rights to question Umpire decisions taking into consideration that this is sporting competition at the highest level so the intensity of the situation needs to be understood by the officials. Them being oversensitive to criticism is a blight on the game and you end up with egotistic Umpires who want to be the centre of attention, looking for excuses to punish the players.
I think barging into the third umpires room and launching a tirade (as is alleged) goes beyond mere criticism.
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Buttler is the first (acting) captain in that list. How many times have Cook or Morgan been up before the beak? (This isn't a rhetorical question: I honestly have no idea).
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Buttler is the first (acting) captain in that list. How many times have Cook or Morgan been up before the beak? (This isn't a rhetorical question: I honestly have no idea).
If you read the second page of this thread you will see that Cook has a couple of infractions for the team slow over-rate but nothing for being a particularly naughty boy himself.
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Buttler is the first (acting) captain in that list. How many times have Cook or Morgan been up before the beak? (This isn't a rhetorical question: I honestly have no idea).
Morgan, once when he was with Ireland.

I thought Stokes might have got something for trying to start a fight last night.
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Old 10th October 2016, 21:06   #49
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Morgan, once when he was with Ireland.

I thought Stokes might have got something for trying to start a fight last night.
He does have history with punching things...
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Old 17th October 2016, 01:34   #50
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The players are well within their rights to question Umpire decisions taking into consideration that this is sporting competition at the highest level so the intensity of the situation needs to be understood by the officials.
Disagree.

The position of the umpire should not be questioned outside of the framework of any referral system. Somebody has to make the decision, and it is a difficult enough job as it is without having abuse from the players.

Particularly as the players appear to be remarkably (a) poor judges of what is actually out and not-out; and (b) keen to persuade the umpires to make an incorrect decision in their favour.

That doesn't mean umpires shouldn't be held accountable for their mistakes: it's just that that is beyond the remit of the on-field action.
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Disagree.

The position of the umpire should not be questioned outside of the framework of any referral system. Somebody has to make the decision, and it is a difficult enough job as it is without having abuse from the players.

Particularly as the players appear to be remarkably (a) poor judges of what is actually out and not-out; and (b) keen to persuade the umpires to make an incorrect decision in their favour.

That doesn't mean umpires shouldn't be held accountable for their mistakes: it's just that that is beyond the remit of the on-field action.

Agreed, can't quite believe that Hales got off as lightly as he did. Storming in to the third umpires office seems to me much worse than showing some disappointment in the middle.
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Agreed, can't quite believe that Hales got off as lightly as he did. Storming in to the third umpires office seems to me much worse than showing some disappointment in the middle.
Not really, dissent shown in the middle is viewed by hundreds of thousands if not millions. How many see him go into the Third Umpires room?
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Dissent shown in the umpire's room will be reported at length in the media and is therefore seen by the authorities as more damaging to the image of the game than the odd word or look on the field of play.

Hales did get off lightly.
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Not really, dissent shown in the middle is viewed by hundreds of thousands if not millions. How many see him go into the Third Umpires room?
I don't really see why that would be part of the criteria.
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Dissent shown in the umpire's room will be reported at length in the media and is therefore seen by the authorities as more damaging to the image of the game than the odd word or look on the field of play.

Hales did get off lightly.
So why did he get off lightly if your statement above is true? or maybe it's not true, which wouldn't exactly be a first for you would it? Of course you "know" it to be the case, or just assume, or believe?
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Well, I hope you understood that.

Do you ever go back to read your posts and wonder what the heck you meant?
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Broad - showing disrespect to umpires decision
Topley - abuse of ground equipment
Willey - send off to batsman and inappropriate language
Roy - dissent at umpires decision and throwing bat and gloves
Anderson - reprimand for disrespect to umpires decision
Broad - making inappropiate public comment about the umpires decision on Alex Hales
Hales - dissent at umpires decision
Buttler - reprimand using language or a gesture that is obscene
Stokes - altercation with Bangladesh player

Under 5 years with Flower as coach ....

Amjad Khan - excessive appealing
Panesar - excessive appealing
Broad - public criticism of match official
Broad - throwing the ball at or near a player
Bresnan - hit the stumps with his bat after being bowled
Swann - using offensive language
Prior - abuse of fixtures and fittings after being run out
Broad - lbw appeal turned down and then offensive remarks to umpire
Swann - kicked the stumps in frustration when bowling

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Dissents by team
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Australia 26
South Africa 13
New Zealand 13
Pakistan 13
Sri Lanka 12
England 11
Zimbabwe 8
West Indies 8
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Stokes received a demerit point for swearing to himself. So three now and the next will include a ban.
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Shouldn't australia be higher up the all time list of bad conduct? Some of the stuff I've heard them say, especially in the late 90s to early mid 00s.

Broad with all his issues lol
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