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Old 10th February 2018, 10:11   #61
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Take moeen and stokes out of our batting line up and it suddenly looks pony.
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Old 10th February 2018, 10:14   #62
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Another poor MCG pitch.
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Old 10th February 2018, 10:40   #63
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Buttler is a great limited overs batsman.

Makes me wonder why he isn't in the England test team.

Then I remember Guptill and I stop wondering.
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Old 10th February 2018, 11:15   #64
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Warners nothing short of a disgrace of late with the bat, ive been saying it for a while, hes the easiest top order wicket in world cricket these days, hes got MASSIVE technical and mental issues at the crease.
Hes being carried and needs a stint out of the team.
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Old 10th February 2018, 11:56   #65
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Take moeen and stokes out of our batting line up and it suddenly looks pony.
Same for bowling.
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Old 10th February 2018, 12:32   #66
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Quite a drubbing that. England look well off the pace, although they are missing five first choice players.
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Old 10th February 2018, 14:20   #67
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Warners nothing short of a disgrace of late with the bat, ive been saying it for a while, hes the easiest top order wicket in world cricket these days, hes got MASSIVE technical and mental issues at the crease.
Hes being carried and needs a stint out of the team.
Who would you pick in his place though? Mind you, Iíve liked what Iíve seen of Lynn. As for England, think they played better with Willey opening.
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Old 10th February 2018, 15:07   #68
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I'm not really sure what you mean. England nearly always pick two spinners in ODI and T20 cricket. I was surprised to see Dawson miss out, especially given how well he bowled against the PMs XI.
I meant that England could have done with a second spinner in the team, and that they should know that they are better off with a second spinner, given that they almost always play two spinners in white-ball cricket these days and they're almost always the two most economical bowlers. So the "will they never learn" meant: why do they still every now and then pretend that it is a good idea not to have a second spinner? Admittedly it is rare these days, but that just means the mistake is more obvious when it does happen.

In any case, as is almost always the case when we're rubbish, the bowling attack is practically irrelevant if the batsmen perform like wazzocks.
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Old 10th February 2018, 16:32   #69
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Buttler seems to have felt he had to carry the team as captain today, instead of playing with his customary freedom and fluency. We got behind when batting and never looked like managing a defendable total. The tour of Australia must really be dragging by now.
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This is a purely selfish request, but can England now please return our county's new skipper to Kent ?

Billings has been a miserable flop in an England shirt - third choice keeper after Buttler and Bairstow, a mediocre 435 runs in 28 ODIs and international T20s over a three year extended trial, a top score of 62, just three half centuries, an average of 14 in the shortest form and 24 in ODIs.

Time to move on, England. There are plenty of better white-ball batsmen out there, including Northeast and Denly, ironically enough.

However, we need him on the bridge at Canterbury to captain the Kent ship which is drifting dangerously from its morrings.

Can we also have Matt Walker back,too? He should currently be fulfilling his duties as head coach with the Kent squad in Antigua. Instead he's part of the England T20 coaching set-up in the current T20 tri-series

That's going well, isn't it? Please put an end to this moonlighting and book him on the next flight to Antigua so he can get on doing the job he is salaried to do!
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Old 10th February 2018, 23:18   #71
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Mention was made of all the players England were missing. Were they injured or rested? if rested playing with an understrength side was crass. The Aussies certainly don't do it.
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This is a purely selfish request, but can England now please return our county's new skipper to Kent ?

Billings has been a miserable flop in an England shirt - third choice keeper after Buttler and Bairstow, a mediocre 435 runs in 28 ODIs and international T20s over a three year extended trial, a top score of 62, just three half centuries, an average of 14 in the shortest form and 24 in ODIs.

Time to move on, England. There are plenty of better white-ball batsmen out there, including Northeast and Denly, ironically enough.

However, we need him on the bridge at Canterbury to captain the Kent ship which is drifting dangerously from its morrings.

Can we also have Matt Walker back,too? He should currently be fulfilling his duties as head coach with the Kent squad in Antigua. Instead he's part of the England T20 coaching set-up in the current T20 tri-series

That's going well, isn't it? Please put an end to this moonlighting and book him on the next flight to Antigua so he can get on doing the job he is salaried to do!
He was England's best batsman today.

You can have Matt Walker back. I wonderered why England's T20 batting has been so underpar.
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Old 11th February 2018, 11:17   #73
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Mention was made of all the players England were missing. Were they injured or rested? if rested playing with an understrength side was crass. The Aussies certainly don't do it.
Rested and yes Australia do....
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Old 11th February 2018, 13:59   #74
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Bookies' orders, I imagine.
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He was England's best batsman today.

You can have Matt Walker back. I wonderered why England's T20 batting has been so underpar.
The Aussies have won all 3 tosses in their games so far and it's clearly helped to bowl first.

As for why batting is under par - missing key personnel, playing what they do have in the wrong order, never as good batting first, not played much T20 cricket for 6 months (the weak link in the Aussie team is Warner who also has played virtually no T20 cricket recently).
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Old 12th February 2018, 13:51   #76
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I think England see this as their best XI

Roy Hales Root Buttler Morgan Stokes Ali Willey Plunkett Jordan Rashid

Six and a half bowlers

Last 2 years LLLWWWWLWLWLLWLWLLL

Batting first LLLWWLLWLL 3/10
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NZ WWLWWWWWWLWWWLLWLWWWLLL 15/23

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Old 12th February 2018, 14:55   #77
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I think England see this as their best XI

Roy Hales Root Buttler Morgan Stokes Ali Willey Plunkett Jordan Rashid
Surely Woakes would be ahead of Willey or Jordan.
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Surely Woakes would be ahead of Willey or Jordan.
Woakes hasn't played 20/20s since Nov 2015. His career figures 36.14 econ 9.37. It is as if the selectors have said Jordan for 20/20s and Woakes for ODIs. Meanwhile Woakes is much more valuable in the IPL than Jordan.

Who is really missing is Finn 21.59 econ 7.28. He hasn't played since Aug 2015.
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Surely Woakes would be ahead of Willey or Jordan.
He should be but England don't pick him in T20 just like Australia don't pick Starc or Cummins, it's hard to tell whether any of them were picked if the World Cup was suddenly moved forward to next month.
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England going to have to chase down a monster to stay in the tournament.
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