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Old 12th March 2018, 13:30   #261
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Well done to SA, too good for us this test, no excusses.

Warners carry on at the end of the first test impacted us negatively and inspired SA, it just wasnt needed, thats our fault.

Dave needs to grow up and get real.
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Old 12th March 2018, 13:34   #262
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So while Rabada awaits the ICC, he earns another Umpires report for getting in Warners face and screaming at him like a pork chop. Good bowler, but he might not be the sharpest tool in the shed this fella.

Strange how this stuff only seems to happen at top level. If you were to start getting right in peoples faces and screaming at them in club cricket like Rabada does, someone is inevitably going to end up dropping you.

Would love to see a batsman hit a boundary off him and then run straight at him, get right in his face and start screaming at him on his follow through. Would pay good money to see that lol.

There's plenty of leeway for bowlers to carry on and even for a bit of a send off, it's all part of the drama and entertainment. Rabada hasn't quite worked out how to do that yet. Seems the ICC agree.

Won't miss him at all if he gets rubbed out for a couple of matches, more annoying than Starc at his worst. It'll still be good tough cricket.
I think screaming in faces, pointing to the dressing room should be welcomed. Creates drama and atmosphere. Tedious, unoriginal, unfunny, cowardly sledging that forces the TV company to turn the stump mic off is what needs to be clamped down upon.
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Old 12th March 2018, 13:34   #263
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Unfortunatly Rabada's a serial offender, and this has taken him over the 20 Demerit points mark. Otherwise he would have got off with a fine.
Fair enough i suppose, i just hate to see all the aggression stamped out of the game.
Maybe Rabada like warner goes overboard a bit.
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Old 12th March 2018, 13:44   #264
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I think screaming in faces, pointing to the dressing room should be welcomed. Creates drama and atmosphere. Tedious, unoriginal, unfunny, cowardly sledging that forces the TV company to turn the stump mic off is what needs to be clamped down upon.
EACH TO THEIR OWN!!! (lol).

The stump mikes were not turned down and yes, sledging players via their wives is cowardly as you say, but it was clamped down on. The Saffers have probably learned their lesson (they were very quick to release the footage). Now they only have to work on their nutty star bowler.
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Old 12th March 2018, 13:54   #265
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9 days of superb test cricket. Nice to see a genuine contest as they are increasingly rare. Australia weren't bad in this game per se, sometimes you just catch certain players at their best (abd, rabada) though their senior bats let them down slightly (Smarsh has to be on warning, averaging in the teens in his last 2 away tours.) Seems we've missed a trick by not including Renshaw and Maxwell in the squad, as Handscomb isn't exactly pushing for a place.
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Old 12th March 2018, 14:03   #266
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9 days of superb test cricket. Nice to see a genuine contest as they are increasingly rare. Australia weren't bad in this game per se, sometimes you just catch certain players at their best (abd, rabada) though their senior bats let them down slightly (Smarsh has to be on warning, averaging in the teens in his last 2 away tours.) Seems we've missed a trick by not including Renshaw and Maxwell in the squad, as Handscomb isn't exactly pushing for a place.
Renshaw surely has to get back in soon. Exactly the type of opener we need. Though Bancroft looks like he might have something about him, despite his modest showing. Perhaps he could eventually end up at three? (if he isn't discarded at end of series). It's looking like Maxwell simply doesn't fit in socially or something and now that M Marsh is firing, can probably forget about it.
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Old 12th March 2018, 14:09   #267
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EACH TO THEIR OWN!!! (lol).

The stump mikes were not turned down and yes, sledging players via their wives is cowardly as you say, but it was clamped down on. The Saffers have probably learned their lesson (they were very quick to release the footage). Now they only have to work on their nutty star bowler.
I'm behind on this, but while I don't condone QdK's comment and the silly handbags at dawn fight that followed, didn't it result in Warner just droning on at the Saffers all afternoon? I recall Jimmy Anderson doing something similar against Jadeja a while back, equally tedious.

Basically I'm saying raw emotion is good, as long as not violent, chitter-chatter bad.
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Old 12th March 2018, 14:24   #268
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I'm behind on this, but while I don't condone QdK's comment and the silly handbags at dawn fight that followed, didn't it result in Warner just droning on at the Saffers all afternoon? I recall Jimmy Anderson doing something similar against Jadeja a while back, equally tedious.

Basically I'm saying raw emotion is good, as long as not violent, chitter-chatter bad.
I don't mind bowlers showing emotion or sending a batsman on his way (up to a point). That's alright. But if your going to run up to a batsman and get right in his face while screaming, that's very stand overish and you deserve to get his bat across your forehead.

Chitter chatter can also be good, people like Warne used such mind games to great effect. He put a lot of thought into it, as shown by who he didn't bother sledging, as much as who he did. The mindless inane type sledging is boring.
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Old 12th March 2018, 14:55   #269
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Just as a little aside, we were politely chiding the office's resident Aussie this morning, when someone queried why she didn't say 'look' at the start of every sentence. I proffered that it should be 'aw look' but suggested that it probably wasn't for her as she wasn't bogan enough!

She agreed with that!
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Old 12th March 2018, 15:02   #270
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I don't mind bowlers showing emotion or sending a batsman on his way (up to a point). That's alright. But if your going to run up to a batsman and get right in his face while screaming, that's very stand overish and you deserve to get his bat across your forehead.

Chitter chatter can also be good, people like Warne used such mind games to great effect. He put a lot of thought into it, as shown by who he didn't bother sledging, as much as who he did. The mindless inane type sledging is boring.
Its ok to be stand overish as a bowler, thats part of a quicks job, to intimidate.
The batsman gets to hit boundaries and have his moments all day, the bowler should be able to stand over a batsman when he gets out imo.
The dramas good for the contest and game.
Theres nothing wrong with a bit of argy bargy either imo, that sort of stuff happens on the park.
Id love to see a big punch up for once in a test cricket game, the games getting too soft.
The fans would love it too, an all in stink, its never hurt baseball only made it more exciting.

But its unfortunately not going to happen so theres nothing to be concerned about for the people worried about it happening.
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Just as a little aside, we were politely chiding the office's resident Aussie this morning, when someone queried why she didn't say 'look' at the start of every sentence. I proffered that it should be 'aw look' but suggested that it probably wasn't for her as she wasn't bogan enough!

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lol She must be the best worker in the joint!
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Renshaw surely has to get back in soon. Exactly the type of opener we need. Though Bancroft looks like he might have something about him, despite his modest showing. Perhaps he could eventually end up at three? (if he isn't discarded at end of series). It's looking like Maxwell simply doesn't fit in socially or something and now that M Marsh is firing, can probably forget about it.
I agree that Maxwell certainly isn't in favour (for whatever reason) and will only get back in if one of the Marsh's gets injured or dropped.
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Old 13th March 2018, 12:40   #274
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So while Rabada awaits the ICC, he earns another Umpires report for getting in Warners face and screaming at him like a pork chop. Good bowler, but he might not be the sharpest tool in the shed this fella.

Strange how this stuff only seems to happen at top level. If you were to start getting right in peoples faces and screaming at them in club cricket like Rabada does, someone is inevitably going to end up dropping you.

Would love to see a batsman hit a boundary off him and then run straight at him, get right in his face and start screaming at him on his follow through. Would pay good money to see that lol.

There's plenty of leeway for bowlers to carry on and even for a bit of a send off, it's all part of the drama and entertainment. Rabada hasn't quite worked out how to do that yet. Seems the ICC agree.

Won't miss him at all if he gets rubbed out for a couple of matches, more annoying than Starc at his worst. It'll still be good tough cricket.
They were discussing last night how he's really smart and actually works out the batsmen's weaknesses in addition to his physical attributes. Surely we would expect nothing less from the son of a brain surgeon. Mother has a high-powered job too.
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Well done to SA, too good for us this test, no excusses.

Warners carry on at the end of the first test impacted us negatively and inspired SA, it just wasnt needed, thats our fault.

Dave needs to grow up and get real.
It was a very Un-Australian reaction from Warner, wouldn't you agree? What a sook!
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They were discussing last night how he's really smart and actually works out the batsmen's weaknesses in addition to his physical attributes. Surely we would expect nothing less from the son of a brain surgeon. Mother has a high-powered job too.
But lots of surgeons can have short fuses!
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But lots of surgeons can have short fuses!
Agree, but the suggestion was that he was not the sharpest tool in the drawer.
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Agree, but the suggestion was that he was not the sharpest tool in the drawer.
Given that he keeps getting pinged for the same offence, it's hardly the most unlikely conclusion to draw.
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They were discussing last night how he's really smart and actually works out the batsmen's weaknesses in addition to his physical attributes.
Well, if "they" discussed it, guess that settles then. Surely in the realm of unimpeachable sources "they" top the list lol.

Though the idea that batsmen have weaknesses that can be targeted by a bowler is surely a novel piece of genius. Could revolutionise the way the game is played lol.

So we have a very publicly acrimonious series where people have already been sanctioned and which will therefore be monitored very closely for breaches. A bowler with a history of incurring demerits, to the point of being suspended recently, and risks being suspended again should he breach the established rules. Undaunted, he simply goes out of his way to repeat his previous nonsense and surprise surprise, gets suspended again. This time, double. As if to reinforce the notion he could be slightly dim, while waiting for the ICC to deliberate, he nongs it up again and incurs further demerits.

Surely, as thick as two short planks. Faf probably more so.

Trouble is that one day a batsmen might take exception to his argy bargy hysterical nonsense, possibly shortening his own career.

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Why, did his old man give him brain surgery? Or were you simply trying to pass off an obvious fallacy?
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