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View Poll Results: What do you think of the mankading by Ashwin.
Perfectly fine by Ashwin, correctly given out. 7 36.84%
As above but should be a dead ball as he would have en in the crease during a normal delivery. 4 21.05%
Ashwin should have warned Buttler first. 4 21.05%
Ashwin is out of order. 4 21.05%
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Old 26th March 2019, 09:16   #1
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Ashwin mankading of Buttler in IPL

Interest to hear peoples opinions of the(The IPL Video ) mankading of Buttler by Ashwin in the IPL, thought this would probably be the best sub forum for it.
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Old 26th March 2019, 09:29   #2
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I haven't seen this particular one, but I don't generally have a problem with it. Especially if the batsman has been warned.
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Old 26th March 2019, 09:32   #3
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I had to recheck the rules. Ashwin did nothing wrong and was in his rights in running Buttler out, so this remains a question of the spirit of the game, not whether Buttler was legally out or not.
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Old 26th March 2019, 09:40   #4
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I don't see how anyone can complain about that. Buttler has blithely wandered out of his crease and the ball hasn't even been bowled. If he's not trying to start a prospective run too early, he's not in control of his own body. It's just like what happens at the other end when the keeper can see the striking batsman is about to leave his crease and waits until he does before stumping him.
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Old 26th March 2019, 09:44   #5
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It's just as well it happened in a meaningless game whilst the players were playing for random groups sharing nothing except a desire to make money.

Now had this happened in a game of some importance - say a Country second XI match or a village game on a Sunday afternoon, then I might get interested. But not in this load of rubbish...
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Old 26th March 2019, 10:00   #6
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I'd have kneecapped the ******* with my bat if it was me.
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Old 26th March 2019, 10:09   #7
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As long as the batsman backing up has been warned and the umpire acknowledged that warning, then I am fine.

What I will say is that I have seen this encouraged to kids of a very young age. Not good!
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Old 26th March 2019, 10:12   #8
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I thought the law had changed so that if the bowler would normally have bowled then he can’t be run out. He paused, so would have normally bowled so incorrect application of the law isn’t it?
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Old 26th March 2019, 10:14   #9
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As long as the batsman backing up has been warned and the umpire acknowledged that warning, then I am fine.

What I will say is that I have seen this encouraged to kids of a very young age. Not good!
Last season my ladís team played a side who were absolutely taking the **** the backing up. They were yards down. Our teamís coach said to theirís that it had to stop or he would tell our team (under 10s) to run them out. Their coach got on a high horse about spirit of the game. It was remarkable.
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Old 26th March 2019, 10:56   #10
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It's just as well it happened in a meaningless game whilst the players were playing for random groups sharing nothing except a desire to make money.

Now had this happened in a game of some importance - say a Country second XI match or a village game on a Sunday afternoon, then I might get interested. But not in this load of rubbish...
I have to admit, I also have real difficulty in giving two hoots about this incident. And I do watch a bit of IPL on telly.
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Old 26th March 2019, 11:24   #11
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It wasn't a true Mankad - it was a deception.

No warning isn't good.

It wasn't out by the letter of the law - the umpires screwed up.

His captain is a *****eel of the highest order for permitting it.

The IPL need a response to prevent their brand being devalued.

The laws need tightening up - firstly to prevent such *****ousery and secondly to encourage large fines and bans for this sort of antics.

Ashwin is a utter turd - hopefully he is selected for the WC so I can boo him in person.
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Old 26th March 2019, 11:25   #12
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I don’t see why a bowler should have to warn a batsman if he’s taking the ****. Warning them is act of generosity. That kids game is a disgrace. Make them learn the hard way.
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Old 26th March 2019, 11:30   #13
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Not that Buttler has learnt obvs.
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Old 26th March 2019, 11:38   #14
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Not that Buttler has learnt obvs.
I've tended to be pro Mankad, because for years batsmen have taken the p*ss and whine about spirit of the game. I do think though that you can argue that Ashwin is pushing the boundaries by shimmying in this manner though.

That said, I don't have a lot of sympathy for Buttler given that he has been Mankaded before when he didn't deserve any outpouring on his behalf when he was run-out by Sri Lanka a few years ago even though the big beasts (aka f**tards) of the English media wanted to rush out to the crease and hug him.
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I haven't seen this particular one, but I don't generally have a problem with it. Especially if the batsman has been warned.
I generally have no problem with it and I don't see why the bowler should give the batsman a warning. However, Ashwin is bang out of order in this instance - he had no intention of bowling the ball and, as such, it was cheating IMVHO.
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I generally have no problem with it and I don't see why the bowler should give the batsman a warning. However, Ashwin is bang out of order in this instance - he had no intention of bowling the ball and, as such, it was cheating IMVHO.
This is my opinion of it as well, was interested to hear what other people have to say after they've watched this actual instance.

I also don't give two hoots about the specific match, something that is interesting IMO is that now this game and many others have DRS in operation the batsman at the non strikers end has a "duty" to be looking at the on strike batsman to help with possible reviews and also avoid getting clattered rather than watching the bowlers run up.
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Old 26th March 2019, 12:00   #17
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Agree it was not a deserved one. It was cheating.

It reminded me a bit of an incident in 2008. My lad was watching sky sports classics before school and it was the match where we ran out a batsman who had collided with the bowler. That didn’t sit at all well either. It just felt different.
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I generally have no problem with it and I don't see why the bowler should give the batsman a warning. However, Ashwin is bang out of order in this instance - he had no intention of bowling the ball and, as such, it was cheating IMVHO.


Totally agree with this.
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This wasn't a Mankad - it was an "Ashwin".


Mankading is fine - the batsman should be warned if you are a proper gentleman.

Ashwinning is never acceptable.
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The bowler doesn't have to warn the batter and can attempt a run out at any point before releasing the ball. As the MCC argue themselves, "it is the non-striker’s duty to remain in his/her ground until the bowler has released the ball."

Take it up with the MCC rather than moaning at Ashwin.
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