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Old 7th January 2018, 18:46   #61
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Potentially over 190 overs left in the game so interesting how SA play this tomorrow (apparently forecast is good).

260 in 70 would allow them to set India 400 in 120, which should be more than enough both in terms of runs & wickets. If du Plessis is more conservative than perhaps a target of say 450 in 110. Should be more than enough either way - even with Pujara, Rohit & Bhuvneshwar stonewalling for their lives yesterday, India were still bundled out in 73 overs.
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Old 7th January 2018, 20:36   #62
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Ngidi is tall, fast and moves the ball. Don't appear to be any mid-range of career apart from the Olivier who has been tried.
Completely forgot about Olivier. I seem to remember him doing well In England, is he currently injured?
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Old 7th January 2018, 20:37   #63
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Back on topic, if the weather holds up, there are still 2 days of cricket so there is bound to be a result and in all honesty, it all hinges on what happens in the first few hours tomorrow.
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Old 7th January 2018, 21:05   #64
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Back on topic, if the weather holds up, there are still 2 days of cricket so there is bound to be a result and in all honesty, it all hinges on what happens in the first few hours tomorrow.
To a degree, perhaps, but SA are massively ahead in this test in conditions at Newlands which favour the quick bowlers and seamers.
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Old 7th January 2018, 22:18   #65
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Old 7th January 2018, 22:26   #66
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To a degree, perhaps, but SA are massively ahead in this test in conditions at Newlands which favour the quick bowlers and seamers.
Oh I agree, SA are are ahead, I'm just saying there are certain things India can do to over turn it.
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Old 8th January 2018, 02:33   #67
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What is the exact ethnical makeup required of the SA team? Something like a minimum of 4 players of colour (amla, de kock, maharaj & makram?) and minimum two of african heritage (rabada & philander?) is my understanding correct? So say Morris is okay to come in for steyn, but if philander were injured, then phehlukwayo would have to replace him? It all seems a bit confusing. Surely in 2018 making such distinctions between ethnicities helps no one?
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Old 8th January 2018, 07:09   #68
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I hope that cg or Confused Male can shed a little more light on this, but why did India choose to have that extra long series v Sri Lanka only a short while after touring there and playing here with NO warm up matches. It seems almost as daft as some of the selections. England fans have a right to moan at the lack of quality in our squad but you donít have as much of an excuse in my opinion. With better preparation and selection India could mount a bit of a challenge but this looks as though this will be done by Monday night.
Unfortunately, the workings of our cricket board is beyond me. Even I don't know why we had so many series against SL when it was serving no purpose, unless SLC was in financial trouble and wanted BCCI to help them out.
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Old 8th January 2018, 07:44   #69
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What is the exact ethnical makeup required of the SA team? Something like a minimum of 4 players of colour (amla, de kock, maharaj & makram?) and minimum two of african heritage (rabada & philander?) is my understanding correct? So say Morris is okay to come in for steyn, but if philander were injured, then phehlukwayo would have to replace him? It all seems a bit confusing. Surely in 2018 making such distinctions between ethnicities helps no one?
If I recall correctly, it's viewed as the average make up of the side over time, not each game, and it should be six players of colour, of which at least two are African. FYI Philander is Coloured I think.
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If I recall correctly, it's viewed as the average make up of the side over time, not each game, and it should be six players of colour, of which at least two are African. FYI Philander is Coloured I think.
So who is the other african player in the side? or does the requirement also include the squad? ie bavuma and phelukwayo?
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Old 8th January 2018, 08:21   #71
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If I recall correctly, it's viewed as the average make up of the side over time, not each game, and it should be six players of colour, of which at least two are African. FYI Philander is Coloured I think.
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So who is the other african player in the side? or does the requirement also include the squad? ie bavuma and phelukwayo?
Average over time...
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What is the exact ethnical makeup required of the SA team? Something like a minimum of 4 players of colour (amla, de kock, maharaj & makram?) and minimum two of african heritage (rabada & philander?) is my understanding correct? So say Morris is okay to come in for steyn, but if philander were injured, then phehlukwayo would have to replace him? It all seems a bit confusing. Surely in 2018 making such distinctions between ethnicities helps no one?
It appears to be averaged out over time.

Think Philander is coloured, not considered African, though Rabada is.

Amla, de Kock, Philander and Maharaj would be the coloured quota, but would be surprised if Markram is not considered white.

AB coming back tipped the ethnic balance towards whites and there was evidently talk of Bavuma playing ahead of him because du Plessis had to be included as captain, but they opted for AB.
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Over what time? A series, a year? 5 years?
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Over what time? A series, a year? 5 years?
Over a season.
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It appears to be averaged out over time.

Think Philander is coloured, not considered African, though Rabada is.

Amla, de Kock, Philander and Maharaj would be the coloured quota, but would be surprised if Markram is not considered white.

AB coming back tipped the ethnic balance towards whites and there was evidently talk of Bavuma playing ahead of him because du Plessis had to be included as captain, but they opted for AB.
de Kock is a player of colour???
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Has the pitch livened up after being under the covers? Anyway, you’d expect that if Shami and Bumrah can wreak havoc, rabada and co will be unplayable so this should be SA’s game. Good to see some fight from India though, but unfortunately has come too late to mean anything.
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Has the pitch livened up after being under the covers? Anyway, youíd expect that if Shami and Bumrah can wreak havoc, rabada and co will be unplayable so this should be SAís game. Good to see some fight from India though, but unfortunately has come too late to mean anything.
200+ would be a very steep task to chase judging by conditions at the moment, though perhaps the absence of Steyn may mean that the initial 20 overs will be important for the 3 quicks.
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Old 8th January 2018, 10:49   #78
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200+ would be a very steep task to chase judging by conditions at the moment, though perhaps the absence of Steyn may mean that the initial 20 overs will be important for the 3 quicks.
Yep I think SA already have enough given the conditions.
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Yep I think SA already have enough given the conditions.
Some bone-headed bowling by Kumar with his bouncers lead to a couple of wides but he does eventually get Maharaj. However with some enterprising batting from AB, SA now pass the 200 mark. AB now looking to tee-off t20 style. Could be fun!
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Some bone-headed bowling by Kumar with his bouncers lead to a couple of wides but he does eventually get Maharaj. However with some enterprising batting from AB, SA now pass the 200 mark. AB now looking to tee-off t20 style. Could be fun!
Heís out now. SA will win this, itís too many for Indiaís batsmen, but losing 10 for 80 against these Indian trundlers doesnít bode well for upcoming battles against Starc and co
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