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Old 11th May 2015, 15:35   #201
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He'd try, but probably just nick the bus on it's way past
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Old 11th May 2015, 16:24   #202
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Small sample size, just the five innings, second division attacks, lots of not outs blah but he's clearly still got it. ...
Yes, he's probably still got it. The disagreement may be over what "it" is, though.
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Old 11th May 2015, 17:22   #203
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Our ODI skipper is into the danger zone 40s now. Let's see if he can actually produce a match winning knock vs recent champions.
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Old 11th May 2015, 17:33   #204
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Our ODI skipper is into the danger zone 40s now. Let's see if he can actually produce a match winning knock vs recent champions.
Is he already? I know they score quickly in the IPL but I thought he only just got to the crease.
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Old 11th May 2015, 17:38   #205
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Is he already? I know they score quickly in the IPL but I thought he only just got to the crease.
Funnily enough I checked the IPL before the Notts game. Morgan is scoring quickly. If he finishes the tournament well I'd have him back in the ODI side I think.

Oops, Morgan out for 17 from 7 balls. Good team man.
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Is he already? I know they score quickly in the IPL but I thought he only just got to the crease.
You are talking about ex skipper. Like he would get two fifties in the same calendar year. Behave.
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Double hundred. Excellent. This is EXACTLY a what I said would be a giggle. The masses will get excited and the selectors will say "no thanks. We need someone who has scored consistently over a period of time."

Cricket will eat itself. It will be mega.

If kp had not written that book then he could have had a chance but does anyone really think he can return to the dressing room after that? I mean seriously not in a joking way. It is a shame because he has been brilliant to watch in international cricket and now he is showing leicester who is boss he would be considered
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Old 11th May 2015, 17:45   #208
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Double hundred. Excellent. This is EXACTLY a what I said would be a giggle. The masses will get excited and the selectors will say "no thanks. We need someone who has scored consistently over a period of time."

Cricket will eat itself. It will be mega.

If kp had not written that book then he could have had a chance but does anyone really think he can return to the dressing room after that? I mean seriously not in a joking way. It is a shame because he has been brilliant to watch in international cricket and now he is showing leicester who is boss he would be considered
Yes, definitely a giggle.

I particularly laughed at the idea he'd have returned AFTER HE HAD BEEN SACKED if only he hadn't written a book.
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Things change GBG - as we have seen. Simple question

Would kp be more likely to return if he had not written the book?
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No

Taylor falls in 40s again. He keeps blowing it. Lucky bairstow scored a match changing innings.
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Things change GBG - as we have seen. Simple question

Would kp be more likely to return if he had not written the book?
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No.
Are you being serious? This is why it is impossible to have a serious debate on the subject and why i don't botheer.
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Old 11th May 2015, 17:56   #212
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Are you being serious? This is why it is impossible to have a serious debate on the subject and why i don't botheer.
Yes I am being serious.

If anything his book has made him more likely to be recalled.
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I am interested to hear how criticising the captain and the most successful bowling partnership and greatest ever wicket taker makes him more selectable.
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Old 11th May 2015, 18:15   #214
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Yes I am being serious.

If anything his book has made him more likely to be recalled.
"Yes, come back, Kevin. The book only enhanced our already high opinion of you!".
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"Yes, come back, Kevin. The book only enhanced our already high opinion of you!".
There you go again. Being selected for England shouldn't be on the basis of a popularity contest or attending the right kind of school. Or being "a good egg". Nothing wrong with any of those attributes or advantages in life, but just not as the primary criteria for selection or exclusion.
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Old 11th May 2015, 18:32   #216
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Primary criteria should almost always be on the basis of ability. There may be times, however, when not satisfying certain other criteria take precedence.
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I am interested to hear how criticising the captain and the most successful bowling partnership and greatest ever wicket taker makes him more selectable.
It doesn't make him more selectable.

It may however have made him more likely to be selected as it may have hastened the end of Clownton and Moores.
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It doesn't make him more selectable.

It may however have made him more likely to be selected as it may have hastened the end of Clownton and Moores.
It's interesting to recall the long list of people standing in the way of a Pietersen recall back when he was fired. Most of them have bitten the dust since. How much of that is to do with the Pietersen affair is open to question and how much of that might have been down to the book is even less clear but there's no denying who's won the PR campaign. Admittedly, Pietersen beating the ECB in a PR war is a real race of the err, not terribly good at racing (usual non PC phrase redacted).

Just on the 291 now.
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Primary criteria should almost always be on the basis of ability. There may be times, however, when not satisfying certain other criteria take precedence.
What is the great principle or virtue that you see the need to defend by overruling the potential selection of the most successful, entertaining, in demand by the public and in-the-form-of-his-life player? Please do clarify.
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Honesty, integrity, loyalty and an ability to fit into a team situation would seem to be important.
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