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Old 28th December 2015, 08:30   #361
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There were loads of Broad critics when he started..it may have changed now as he can hardly be criticised on the same level. Or it could have been the other place? Ex TMS board..I forget. Like Hadlee, Broad is a thinking cricketer. Yes..not quite the same standard but not far off.
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Old 28th December 2015, 08:35   #362
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In the circumstances this is quite a pomp of an innings from Elgar. Full of hope and glory.
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Old 28th December 2015, 08:39   #363
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I assume this SA side won't be #1 for long after they lose this. And I'm not seeing them getting any better. I was hoping India was an aberration, mainly due to unfamiliar conditions. But they're just not showing much sign of the new guys settling in or the senior players gaining from. Just the odd bits.
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Old 28th December 2015, 08:40   #364
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It is time to bring back jos. he is no Alan knott but bairstow is completely clueless. This is a third day pitch taking spin and he was probably about 18 inches from getting a glove on those four byes.
Bairstow is poor - but I don't recall Buttler being much better in the West Indies. He was doing stuff just as bad.

I wonder who would be picked if England wanted a pure keeper. Most county keepers are in their team primarily for their batting. Bates has the reputation of being an excellent gloveman, but can't get a game - is there any one else? Assuming Read and Foster are too old.
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Bairstow is poor - but I don't recall Buttler being much better in the West Indies.

I wonder who would be picked if England wanted a pure keeper. Most county keepers are in their team primarily for their batting. Bates has the reputation of being an excellent gloveman, but can't get a game - is there any one else?
I guess the Essex captain (Foster) is getting on now but have felt for sometime he missed out.

In July 2011 Alec Stewart described him as the best pure wicket-keeper in the world
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Old 28th December 2015, 08:44   #366
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This game is set up for compo to get 30 off 140 balls and saffers to block for the draw.
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Old 28th December 2015, 08:54   #367
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Top knock from Elgar. SA are still obviously massively behind in the game but they could have already been bowling again if it wasn't for him today.
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Old 28th December 2015, 09:07   #368
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I assume this SA side won't be #1 for long after they lose this. And I'm not seeing them getting any better. I was hoping India was an aberration, mainly due to unfamiliar conditions. But they're just not showing much sign of the new guys settling in or the senior players gaining from. Just the odd bits.
South Africa will bounce back next test, but I've been saying for a while that they're a team in decline and are here for the taking. They'll still be a massive scalp for England.

I'm concerned about their lack of depth, particularly when West Indies and Sri Lanka are looking weak. Time for the ICC to earn their money. Investment needs to be made in fc cricket in all three countries and they need to be playing longer series against each other to get them more battle hardened.

Well played Elgar though.

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In July 2011 Alec Stewart described him as the best pure wicket-keeper in the world
He's no longer the Essex captain but otherwise correct. The cult of Read obscured this for a long while, despite Read being chosen on the basis of his batting and not his keeping (the latter which achieved mythical status the longer he was out of the side).
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Despite George Dobell's extended love letter to Chris Woakes on Cricinfo I still don't see a bowler likely to succeed at test level. He is steady enough but lacks penetration because he is incapable of moving the ball off the straight.
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Despite George Dobell's extended love letter to Chris Woakes on Cricinfo I still don't see a bowler likely to succeed at test level. He is steady enough but lacks penetration because he is incapable of moving the ball off the straight.
I'm afraid that some of George's analysis of players from Warks and Worcs seems to have been clouded by his previous job for the Birmingham Mail.

I wasn't impressed of his defence of Ali's bowling in the UAE a few days ago and a couple of months back he was overly defensive about Ian Bell's one day batting.
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Despite George Dobell's extended love letter to Chris Woakes on Cricinfo I still don't see a bowler likely to succeed at test level. He is steady enough but lacks penetration because he is incapable of moving the ball off the straight.
Yup, one dayers are his forte. Ditto Jordan.
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Saffers have far from lost this one..I can see another nail biter.
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A stain on a good knock but he couldn't help himself. 70 lead?
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Old 28th December 2015, 09:36   #374
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South Africa will bounce back next test, but I've been saying for a while that they're a team in decline and are here for the taking. They'll still be a massive scalp for England.
Sure you did, but might as well get on the bandwagon. Some decline was inevitable with a captain and opener like smith retiring as well as kallis and even petersen. My concern now is the established batsmen seemingly unable to bounce back. The bowlers, even with Steyn's apparent decline, have been very good, most of the opponent scores so far have been pretty low, it's the batsmen that have failed to capitalise.
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New ball taken so hopefully wrap this up and Moeen will fail to get his five.
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Bairstow is poor - but I don't recall Buttler being much better in the West Indies. He was doing stuff just as bad.

I wonder who would be picked if England wanted a pure keeper. Most county keepers are in their team primarily for their batting. Bates has the reputation of being an excellent gloveman, but can't get a game - is there any one else? Assuming Read and Foster are too old.
I like what I've see of Middlesex's John Simpson.
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Re woakes. The saffer comms keep saying he has bowled brilliantly but been very unlucky. I guess they don't have a position to defend though.
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Nice one Finny!

Just out of interest when did the boys start wearing GPS bras?
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Let's continue yesterday's meme cause this thread should be about that one point until everyone agrees. If the word "luck" comes up anywhere, it proves everything. Please repeat. Lucky that bowler didn't overstep there, I've seen those go the other way. Lucky the batsman got the full face of the bat to that, I've seen those edged. Lucky the umpire gave the right decision rather than look where the ball pitched and hit and then was looking like it was going on to and then, you know, give the right decision.
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Good stuff from England in that innings. I don't think it is a surprise that the top scorer in each innings honed their batting skills Under the watchful eye of Somerset.
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