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Old 14th August 2007, 01:04   #221
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The simple reason for the difference is that though Cook gained more places, Bell gained more points. Around Cook the players are very closely matched on points, whereas Bell was previously about 20 points behind the nearest.
Ah, thank you.
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Old 14th August 2007, 01:04   #222
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Cook's rating went from 649 to 667
Bell's rating went from 602 to 625

So Bell's rating did increase more than Cook's. It just happens that Cook overtook more people with his increase than Bell did. It's rather simple, if you think about it MF, no rant required
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Old 14th August 2007, 01:14   #223
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Cook's rating went from 649 to 667
Bell's rating went from 602 to 625

So Bell's rating did increase more than Cook's. It just happens that Cook overtook more people with his increase than Bell did. It's rather simple, if you think about it MF, no rant required
Yes I have acknowledged this now. It's easy to forget that other people not playing in the match are moving up and down as well.
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Old 14th August 2007, 15:13   #224
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/6946128.stm

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Old 14th August 2007, 15:48   #225
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I can't bring myself to look at the ODI batting rankings these days. 6 Aussies in the top 8. Horrific.
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Old 18th August 2007, 03:30   #226
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ICC Cricket ODI Rankings 25 July 2007

Batting

2 (-) - Pietersen
28 (-1) - Collingwood
29 (-1) - Bell
32 (+1) - Trescothick
33 (+1) - Flintoff
36 (-) - Strauss
67 (-) - Vaughan
78 (-) - Jones
82 (-) - Solanki
93 (+3) - Joyce

Bowling

15 (-) - Flintoff
33 (-2) - Anderson
54 (-1) - Plunkett
57 (+1) - Gough
63 (-) - Lewis
69 (-) - Collingwood
74 (-) - Mahmood
87 (-1) - Panesar


Yet to get into the top 100

Batting

134 (?) - Bopara
151 (-2) - Prior
162 (+1) - Shah
194 (-4) - Cook
255 (-5) - Panesar
264 (-6) - Anderson
284 (-1) - Broad
310 (?) - Sidebottom
328 (?) - Tremlett
366 (-9) - Mascarenhas

Bowling

129 (-1) - Broad
164 (?) - Tremlett
193 (-4) - Mascarenhas
204 (-3) - Pietersen
205 (-3) - Bell
216 (?) - Bopara
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Old 20th August 2007, 10:49   #227
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And that, not selection, not tactics, is the simple reason why we don't win many one day games.
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Old 21st August 2007, 01:41   #228
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And that, not selection, not tactics, is the simple reason why we don't win many one day games.
a number of the players would feature rather higher in the rankings had they played more odis. All the same, it is hard to see england becoming much more than a middle to lower-middle ranking one day side for the foreseeable future.
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Old 28th August 2007, 13:54   #229
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ICC Cricket ODI Rankings 27 August 2007

Batting

2 (-) - Pietersen
14 (+15) - Bell
28 (-) - Collingwood
33 (-1) - Trescothick
34 (-1) - Flintoff
36 (-) - Strauss
72 (-5) - Vaughan
82 (-4) - Jones
86 (-4) - Solanki
88 (+106) - Cook

Bowling

10 (+5) - Flintoff
14 (+19) - Anderson
56 (-2) - Plunkett
60 (-3) - Gough
67 (-4) - Lewis
70 (-1) - Collingwood
76 (-2) - Mahmood
85 (+2) - Panesar

Still waiting

Batting
128 (+23) - Prior
131 (+3) - Bopara
160 (+2) - Shah
243 (+41) - Broad
259 (-4) - Panesar
266 (-2) - Anderson
283 (+83) - Mascarenhas
294 (+34) - Tremlett
317 (-7) - Sidebottom

Bowling
102 (+27) - Broad
145 (+48) - Mascarenhas
168 (-4) - Tremlett
201 (+15) - Bopara
207 (-3) - Pietersen
209 (-4) - Bell

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Old 28th August 2007, 14:27   #230
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Boppy bowled 2 overs for 12 runs and he gets to go up 15?
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Boppy bowled 2 overs for 12 runs and he gets to go up 15?
Its 6 overs for 39 since the last rankings.
Down there in the 200s players probably move up faster as many are not actually playing at present.
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Anderson is up to his highest ever position in the rankings. Obviously playing India and getting out good batsman is boasting his rankings. Great to see Bell going up by so much as well!
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Just goes to show that while Stuart Broad has been promising, he hasn't been all that impressive with the ball so far.
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Old 28th August 2007, 14:58   #234
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Anderson is up to his highest ever position in the rankings. Obviously playing India and getting out good batsman is boasting his rankings. Great to see Bell going up by so much as well!
Anderson used to be at number 10 with a bowling average of 22.09 at one stage.

(he had 46 wickets at the time - April 04)

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Really? According to the ICC it says that 14 is his highest ODI ranking.
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Really? According to the ICC it says that 14 is his highest ODI ranking.
Maybe after a certain amount of time that has passed they go back to the latest figure they had. I remember he was at number 10 and was taking more wickets than Gough and Harmison at the time and was dropped for a bowler who could bat (Wharf).
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Maybe after a certain amount of time that has passed they go back to the latest figure they had. I remember he was at number 10 and was taking more wickets than Gough and Harmison at the time and was dropped for a bowler who could bat (Wharf).
I certainly remember him being higher than 14th - I thought it was around 11th or 12th. Even better if he was at no.10.

No need to remind us of the bad old days when bowlers were selected for their batting.
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ICC Cricket ODI Rankings 27 August 2007

Batting

2 (-) - Pietersen
14 (+15) - Bell
28 (-) - Collingwood
33 (-1) - Trescothick
34 (-1) - Flintoff
36 (-) - Strauss
72 (-5) - Vaughan
82 (-4) - Jones
86 (-4) - Solanki
88 (+106) - Cook

Bowling

10 (+5) - Flintoff
14 (+19) - Anderson
56 (-2) - Plunkett
60 (-3) - Gough
67 (-4) - Lewis
70 (-1) - Collingwood
76 (-2) - Mahmood
85 (+2) - Panesarl
Anyway, this is more like it.
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ODI MOM awards - Bell will be passing KP soon.

12 - Flintoff
11 - Collingwood
5 - Pietersen
4 - Bell
3 - Anderson
1 - Bopara
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ODI MOM awards - Bell will be passing KP soon.

12 - Flintoff
11 - Collingwood
5 - Pietersen
4 - Bell
3 - Anderson
1 - Bopara
Sorry to return to this theme again, but only 2 of KP's MOM awards were in matches that England won. He also has a MotS award for the South Africa series which England lost. Bell has 4 MOM awards and all the matches were England victories.

I don't want to tempt providence by agreeing with what you said. I imagine that KP will bounce back into form in the next couple of matches and extend his number of MOMs. Let's hope that England win as well.
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