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Old 24th February 2008, 12:34   #101
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Vic Marks in today's Observer reckons that Mustard will get the nod over Ambrose in the tests on account of his keeping.
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Old 24th February 2008, 13:26   #102
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Vic Marks in today's Observer reckons that Mustard will get the nod over Ambrose in the tests on account of his keeping.
Well he's not going to get it on account of his batting is he? The situation is farcical. The guy only has an international career because it was thought he might be a good slogger, and now he's set to be England's test keeper on account of his keeping? I suspect there are several better keepers, most of them also better batsmen. But then we have long suspected that batting and keeping are not relevant when selecting England keepers.
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Old 24th February 2008, 13:33   #103
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Well he's not going to get it on account of his batting is he? The situation is farcical. The guy only has an international career because it was thought he might be a good slogger, and now he's set to be England's test keeper on account of his keeping? I suspect there are several better keepers, most of them also better batsmen. But then we have long suspected that batting and keeping are not relevant when selecting England keepers.
I thought it was because Prior broke a finger
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Old 24th February 2008, 13:37   #104
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Vic Marks in today's Observer reckons that Mustard will get the nod over Ambrose in the tests on account of his keeping.
LOL!!! I'm OK if Ambrose doesnt keep because he'll be at Warwicks who need him more.

But Im up to here with the opinions of people in the media who dont know what they are talking about. When has Marks seen Ambrose keep except maybe the FP semifinal where he was excellent?

Still he's no worse than the quality paper journalist who did a full page article on Ambrose last month. Despite not having been to a Warwickshire match since Ambrose joined us.
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Old 24th February 2008, 13:38   #105
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I thought it was because Prior broke a finger
Oh yeh, and that...
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Well he's not going to get it on account of his batting is he? The situation is farcical. The guy only has an international career because it was thought he might be a good slogger, and now he's set to be England's test keeper on account of his keeping? I suspect there are several better keepers, most of them also better batsmen. But then we have long suspected that batting and keeping are not relevant when selecting England keepers.
If the selectors go for Mustard then I will do such things, --
What they are, yet I know not: but they shall be
The terrors of the earth.

Hmm, possibly the original scanned better. I won't be amused though, that's for sure. I could almost accept it had he been selected for the ODIs on a hunch and done really well but he hasn't.
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Old 24th February 2008, 20:12   #107
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Well he's not going to get it on account of his batting is he? The situation is farcical. The guy only has an international career because it was thought he might be a good slogger, and now he's set to be England's test keeper on account of his keeping? I suspect there are several better keepers, most of them also better batsmen. But then we have long suspected that batting and keeping are not relevant when selecting England keepers.
Unbelievable. To pick a guy who is neither the best 'keeper around nor the best batsman, nor the best all rounder is potty. And for all the shenanigans of the last few years regarding wicketkeepers and batting, to pick someone who has no first class batting record to speak of is simply not rational. Hope Read (Foster and any other decent player) are laughing rather than crying.
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Unbelievable. To pick a guy who is neither the best 'keeper around nor the best batsman, nor the best all rounder is potty. And for all the shenanigans of the last few years regarding wicketkeepers and batting, to pick someone who has no first class batting record to speak of is simply not rational. Hope Read (Foster and any other decent player) are laughing rather than crying.
In fairness, probably Vic Marks is wrong and England will pick Ambrose, who is getting the warm up game, apparently.
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Has anyone got a link to this Vic Marks article? I can't find it on the Observer/Guardian website
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Suggests Mr Marks is a bit desperate for something to write about.
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Old 24th February 2008, 20:48   #111
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The one who always knows what is happening is Paul Newman in the Daily Mail. Marks likes Mustard and was championing him for the tests before the series started and before his 83 marked him out as the new Gilchrist.
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Old 24th February 2008, 20:51   #112
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I've got no problem with Mustard as such but to select him for a Test on the back of all that has happened makes no sense. What possible advantage does he offer over Prior other than he might be a slightly better wickkeeper? And I thought that wicketkeepers weren't being selected for their wicketkeeping alone?
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Old 24th February 2008, 21:50   #113
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Death, we should know by now that the wicketkeeper's selection depends solely on how they fit into the dressing-room and whether they have a perky personality. Mustard seems to fit the criteria so I have no doubt that he will make his test debut next week. I'm willing to stake all my casino cash on it.
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Old 24th February 2008, 21:55   #114
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Oh help us. There'll be a recall for Geraint Jones next.
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Old 24th February 2008, 23:06   #115
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Mustard is a character - they all call him 'The Colonel' apparently. Hilarious.

He must play in the tests.
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Does he stare down the batsmen while fluffing the edge? That's a priority too.
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Old 24th February 2008, 23:21   #117
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Mustard is a character - they all call him 'The Colonel' apparently. Hilarious.

He must play in the tests.
One thing I've noticed is the increasing LACK of personality in England cricketers. Sure you've gotta have 'spark' - as long as that 'spark' manifests itself in exuberant cliche-spewing and brainless chatter. Real personality, real individuality, is rare among England cricketers. I might assemble a possible Personality XI one day. It will be captained by Ed Smith, of course.
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Couldn't agree more. There's a classic example of this on the BBC site (I'm not suggesting anyone bother going there) with a post retirement interview with Kent and England's (briefly) Min Patel. Cliche strewn claptrap.
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Has anyone got a link to this Vic Marks article? I can't find it on the Observer/Guardian website
I read it in the paper version, but I'll be damned if I can find it on the website. It's Marks thoughts on all things cricket over the past week and the article's called 'England the envious onlookers as easy-money game begins', on page 17.

At the back end of the article he says 'When David Graveney announced the squads for NZ, he implied that Tim Ambrose would be the favourite to keep wicket in the Test matches, an odd thing to say so far ahead of the series. Ambrose's record as a batsman in first class cricket is superior to Mustard's (he averages 35 rather than 27). But Mustard has impressed behind the stumps and has finally managed a significant one-day innings. His confidence is high and he looks a cricketer. My inclination would be to stick with him. Life would be far simpler if there was one keeper for all forms of international cricket'.
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i didn't have marks down as a ********ter. shame.
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