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Old 10th October 2018, 09:55   #141
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Chasing around 500 from late day 4. This could get even more ugly than the 1st innings. <100 score?
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Old 10th October 2018, 10:40   #142
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I wouldn't find it that unreasonable if Handscomb were picked but would prefer Ferguson and Maxwell. Either way he isn't going to be in the top four and as Coolerking has mentioned, Smith will be back and probably bat at 4 anyway so no need for Smarsh.
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Old 10th October 2018, 11:36   #143
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It is a bit of a concern that the gnome has left Renshaw out. According to rumours they don't get on. Let's hope it's only unfounded rumours. Not to mention the continuation of the Maxwell snubbing. Always going to be some changes with a new coach, but there is more than a bit of wierdness in selections lately that could be (mis)construed as a Langer "mates/yes men" club. Then again G Chapel is selector. Great player in his day but...(Beer...Doherty...)
To be fair the openers are the one position that have done ok (great taunting of England, even in (likely) defeat) - although of course it would have been easy enough to fit Renshaw in the line-up.

My fear as an Englishman is that Langer will sober up/be sacked and you'll actually play a proper team in the Ashes and we won't get to enjoy facing the current team.

ps I'm fairly sure Langer owns one of these https://www.bradford.com.au/advance-australia-ring.html

(although that is surely a spoof site)
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Old 10th October 2018, 12:58   #144
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I was wondering what might happen when one of the openers got out......those Marsh boys of excellent lineage disappear without a run between them.
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Old 10th October 2018, 14:00   #145
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I hate the Marsh family so much.
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Old 10th October 2018, 14:04   #146
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Yeah but the big bash looks fun so all is good with Aussie cricket.
The best thing about the Big Bash is that none of these awful players will be in it. The womens team is literally the only Australian cricket side worth supporting at the moment.
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Old 10th October 2018, 14:06   #147
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It is a bit of a concern that the gnome has left Renshaw out. According to rumours they don't get on. Let's hope it's only unfounded rumours.
Where did you hear/read this? The stubborn refusal to play your best XI because of personal issues is beyond petty and is and has damaged the game.
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Old 10th October 2018, 17:14   #148
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Where did you hear/read this? The stubborn refusal to play your best XI because of personal issues is beyond petty and is and has damaged the game.
Wasn't Stuart Law excluded from the side because Steve Waugh didn't like him?
Though in England it happened all the time. We seldom played our best XI.
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Old 10th October 2018, 17:21   #149
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Wasn't Stuart Law excluded from the side because Steve Waugh didn't like him?
Though in England it happened all the time. We seldom played our best XI.
John Snow, best English pace bowler of his generation, omitted from both the 1973/4 West Indies tour and 1974/5 Ashes tour...because Chairman of Selectors Alec Bedser didn't like him.
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Old 10th October 2018, 17:58   #150
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Lucky that Illy, not the best man manager, was able to get Snow to perform.
Sadly Snow, vicar's son and poet among other things, tends to get forgotten these days by people who don't allow their memories to stretch back further than 2005.
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Old 10th October 2018, 18:45   #151
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To be fair the openers are the one position that have done ok (great taunting of England, even in (likely) defeat) - although of course it would have been easy enough to fit Renshaw in the line-up.

My fear as an Englishman is that Langer will sober up/be sacked and you'll actually play a proper team in the Ashes and we won't get to enjoy facing the current team.

ps I'm fairly sure Langer owns one of these https://www.bradford.com.au/advance-australia-ring.html

(although that is surely a spoof site)
Sort of thing some dodgy geezer would try and flog you in a motorway service station car park, but for £20.
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Old 10th October 2018, 19:08   #152
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Lucky that Illy, not the best man manager, was able to get Snow to perform.
Sadly Snow, vicar's son and poet among other things, tends to get forgotten these days by people who don't allow their memories to stretch back further than 2005.
I'd imagine that Illy was also better at standing up to the selectors and demanding he got his man, than his successor, Denness.
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Old 10th October 2018, 21:48   #153
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Wasn't Stuart Law excluded from the side because Steve Waugh didn't like him?
Though in England it happened all the time. We seldom played our best XI.
Pretty hard to tell if Law would have got in to that side anyway, their batting was rather stacked to say the least, Boof only played 20 odd times in tests and he had far superior FC stats.
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Old 10th October 2018, 23:20   #154
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Pretty hard to tell if Law would have got in to that side anyway, their batting was rather stacked to say the least, Boof only played 20 odd times in tests and he had far superior FC stats.
Just that Law played one test innings and got 50 odd not out and never played for Australia again. Suppose with the batting riches Australia had at the time they could afford to do that to Law.
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Old 11th October 2018, 07:51   #155
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Wasn't Stuart Law excluded from the side because Steve Waugh didn't like him?
Though in England it happened all the time. We seldom played our best XI.
I've never heard this before, more likely it was the same reason Siddons, Love, Maher, Di Venuto, Cox didn't get a run, just too much competition. Hell, as recently as Hodge and Jaques who averaged 48 and 56 at test level before being overlooked for others, there was healthy competition for spots, and now those two would be our best bats by miles.
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Old 11th October 2018, 07:52   #156
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I hate the Marsh family so much.
And they both failed again, both out for a duck. Quack quack.
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Old 11th October 2018, 08:48   #158
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Looking good for the Aussies here, at least for a draw.
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Old 11th October 2018, 10:26   #159
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Decent graft from the Ozzies here - Langer's influence working ?

England would be back in the hotel by now working on executing their skills.
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Decent graft from the Ozzies here - Langer's influence working ?

England would be back in the hotel by now working on executing their skills.
Arenít we one of the better sides at blocking out draws? We have not done it for a while but we went through a spell when we were good. We almost did it miraculously at headingley.
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