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Old 23rd October 2015, 22:56   #141
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Root reminds me a lot of Mike Hussey the way he bats. So solid and fluent, quick between the wickets, always gets good value for his shots, quality in all forms of the game. Both excellent fielders too.
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Old 23rd October 2015, 23:50   #142
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Fair points regarding Root. To me he seems to be the most complete batsman that England have had for a long in terms of being able to play top class bowling and being able to play it in a variety of conditions and seemingly capable of defence and attack with such competence. I did wonder about his recent conversion rate going back to the New Zealand series earlier this year, especially the Lord's game. Naturally I hope it is century no.9 tomorrow. This is Joe Root's 34th game too and that would be a pretty fine record despite some frustrating near misses.
I agree.

Comparisons with KP mentioned in other posts are misguided. Root is capable of raising the tempo of the batting but when he goes out to bat his intention is to bat for as long as possible. When he stays in, and particularly when in high total partnerships, he can change a game in a session, but not in the same way as Pietersen. KP goes into bat with the explicit intention of changing the game in a session, as he has often mentioned. And he could indeed do so, but his innings didn't often include batting for long periods like Cook and Root. It's not what he was about. He knew his role and he was often effective, but Root is Root, and nothing like Pietersen.
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Old 24th October 2015, 07:59   #143
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Either James Whittaker or Danny Morrison was in Dubai watching the test yesterday. Can anyone tell me which one it was? I can't tell them apart.
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Old 24th October 2015, 08:02   #144
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Result match now but who will win. Root (El Trombono-76)may well make that decision along with the turn.
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Old 24th October 2015, 08:27   #145
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Result match now but who will win. Root (El Trombono-76)may well make that decision along with the turn.
The draw isn't impossible but will need a lot more batting from England, realistically in the first innings, plus a very resolute Pakistan second innings so I don't see it happening, no. At current rates of progress it looks as if England could easily be in a position to up the tempo and put pressure on. I've actually got a lot of money laying the draw this game, most of it from early on and a bit from when Pakistan got out - never looked likely to end in a stalemate to me.

Oh, Root caught behind as I type, or after Bairstow given a life. Pakistan win now, I strongly suspect.
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Old 24th October 2015, 08:30   #146
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Blast! Root's impetuousity outside off stump is becoming a bit of an issue as he isn't converting his 70/s and 80/s into tons as much as he should. I'm certainly a lot more worried now with Bairstow already having looked edgy (in more ways than one) and Wahab always looking like he's going to blast 1 or 2 out.
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Bairstow dropped by the keeper than Root out in the next over in identical fashion to AD - chasing a wide one. I'm not remotely confident England will be able to post a first innings lead now.
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Old 24th October 2015, 08:37   #148
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How good is Root - the sheer ability to play both top class pace and spin is outstanding but it his maturity which is really amazing, doesn't seem like a 24-year old still to complete his third year of test cricket.

He looks like he will average 50+ in the long term. Brilliant player.
He looks a top player for sure, he and Cook the two batsmen England look to for runs as was the case yesterday.

Test looks in the balance, England mopped up Pakistan reasonably quickly but I do wonder if too much relies on Cook and Root. 145 runs out of the 189 so far this Test, 348 of the 598 in the 1st innings of the 1st Test with no one else making more than 63, and Root 33no out of the 74/4 when England were chasing victory.

That's a whopping 61% of the runs between 33% of the batting if you consider it a batting six not seven.

While Bell had a decent 1st Test with bat if not hands, I thought I'd have a further look at his form. Not by X innings this time but calendar year.

2013 : 1005 runs @ 41.88
2014 : 452 runs @ 34.77
2015 : 485 runs @ 25.53

No further breakdown, no 'selectivity', that clearly shows a batsman out of form and scratching for runs over the past two years. Bit hard to put it into perspective with someone else in that poor a form as most new batsmen wouldn't last two years in that kind of form. Cook had a bad trot which coincidentally lasted two years, none nearly as bleak as Bell's 2015 mind :

2012 : 1249 runs @ 48.03
2013 : 916 runs @ 33.93
2014 : 390 runs @ 32.50
2015 : 1235 runs @ 61.75

I had a look at Ali's batting figures, not great as an opener so far, but interestingly enough with talk of Rashid being a match winner in the last innings I had a look at Ali's.

His 1st innings 3/102 are his best in the 1st innings of a match, still not a great 1st innings record mind (10 wkts @ 71.60) His figures improve as you work through the innings and his 4th innings figures are tidy - 11 wkts @ 22.73.

Those are somewhat skewed though, six of the 11 wickets came in his 6/67 so outside that one bowl he's taken 5 wkts @ 36.60 . Do likewise for his 3rd innings bowling and he returns 16 wkts @ 33.44.

This isn't an exercise in Ali bashing, I was purely curious in light of comments re Rashid and with Ali taking 3/102 1st innings. I know they'll doubtless be bleats of "but but but, you can't do that......" except if his figures were remotely robust they wouldn't be so reliant on one performance.

Do the same with other bowlers, the removal of their best figures doesn't shift their averages by nearly 14 and 5 runs respectively - well not the better bowlers anyway.

If it makes Rashid feel any better he only needs to dip his bowling average below 45.00 to be the best bowler Rashid ever in Test cricket! 2/48 or better in Pakistan's 2nd innings should do it. He'd need about 4/50 to bring his average into the vaguely respectable mid-30s
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Ever heard of sample sizes, Rebel?

Good sharp catch there. Bairstow didn't look secure against Shah at any point, really.
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Old 24th October 2015, 08:44   #150
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That was out, for me.
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Good cricket from Pakistan this morning and England are really up against it now. Hard to see any realistic scenario where they can win the game from this position.
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That was out, for me.
Me too FS. Two lives for JB this morning. He might want to think about putting the cut shot away for a while against Yasir.
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Fantastic spell from Wahab this, going on a lot longer than you'd expect and other bowlers have managed in the heat too. I can see why he's kept on given how he's bowling.

Gets another too.
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Awful shot from Stokes and England's middle order from hell is becoming a reality. Good luck Jos. LOL.
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Apres la deluge, English style it looks like with Bairstow seemingly being a bit of a cat.
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Good cricket from Pakistan this morning and England are really up against it now. Hard to see any realistic scenario where they can win the game from this position.
I could before Stokes was out, as it didn't look impossible that a couple of batsmen would at least get a few and get England close to parity, or even slightly beyond, particularly with Wahab about to come off. I think England shagged now though. It's not unexpected either, is it? This innings is looking exactly like our concerns about our batting pre the first test starting: Cook and Root the only batsmen you could rely on with the other opener, the number 3 and the lower middle order terribly vulnerable.
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Wahab has destroyed the England middle order here. All three batsmen out playing shots they didn't need to but he's out the pressure on.
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Wahab has destroyed the England middle order here. All three batsmen out playing shots they didn't need to but he's out the pressure on.
That root shoot was awful. Really poor.
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Match winning spell from Wahab. I'm sorry but Jos Buttler is just not good enough to be playing test cricket, certainly not on current form. The selectors, coach and captain are failing in their duties by continuing to send Buttler and Bell out to play for England.
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