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Old 13th September 2018, 08:13   #401
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Sharma has some stickability at the crease but Shami and Bumrah are pretty hapless.
Shami's the worst of them. Ishant tries really hard, just isn't very good, and Bumrah has no batting skill whatsoever. But Shami actually has a bit more ability (relatively speaking - we are talking about a no.10!) but doesn't apply himself.

Its been said before but this is another reason Bhuvneshwar was a miss.

Still, all of these are problems at a micro level. In the larger picture, there's no good reason a country with such a big pool of players and so much financial resource should be unable to produce an XI of quality players.
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Old 13th September 2018, 17:13   #402
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https://www.thequint.com/sports/cric...ptain-of-india

This article makes the case that India need to sack Kohli and replace him with Rahane as red ball and Rohit Sharma as white ball captain.

This makes sense to me: Kohli is not just tactically a horrible captain in every way imaginable (selection, reading pitches, bowling and fielding changes, DRS decisions), but he plays favorites (his buddies Rahul and Pandya get innumerable chances, whereas proven Test batsmen like Rahane and Pujara are dropped and youngsters like Nair are ignored because Kohli doesn't like him - the article also argues that Rahane was dropped so Kohli could ensure his only viable captaincy rival's ambitions were crushed - maybe a stretch but I wouldn't put it past him). Also, with yes-man Shastri as the coach, Kohli has total power - which is inevitably going to have a negative impact on team morale, particularly those not in Kohli's in-group.

Of course, its not going to happen now. But when India get destroyed in Australia, that too by a team missing its two star batsmen, Kohli's excuses will start running out.
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Old 13th September 2018, 17:54   #403
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That article is mostly hot garbage.

Rahane was NOT 'inexplicably' dropped. His form was in the dumps. My irritation with the episode is that he wasn't given an opportunity to improve on it. He was sitting on the bench in the ODI side vs Sri Lanka when he could easily have been touring South Africa with the 'A' side.... AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN A SIDE TOUR, YES!
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Old 13th September 2018, 19:32   #404
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That article is mostly hot garbage.

Rahane was NOT 'inexplicably' dropped. His form was in the dumps. My irritation with the episode is that he wasn't given an opportunity to improve on it. He was sitting on the bench in the ODI side vs Sri Lanka when he could easily have been touring South Africa with the 'A' side.... AND THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN A SIDE TOUR, YES!
And what was the excuse for dropping Pujara? In what universe does a Test batting line-up manage have to space for Dhawan and Hardik Pandya but not Pujara?

And why don't Pujara and Rahane get the largesse that KL Rahul and Hardik Pandya do? And why does Karun Nair get humiliated, in contrast to the preferential treatment given out to Rahul?

Fundamentally - do you think the way Kohli approaches team selection, tactics and strategy justify the complete power he's gotten himself by bullying Anil Kumble out of the coach's job and replacing him with a moronic yes-man?

Note I'm not even measuring Kohli against his dismal results away from home (and they have been dismal - I have no time for the "scoreline doesn't reflect the series" excuses - damn well it does, especially over a 5-Test series) because I acknowledge there are a number of variables out of a captain's control. But there's no real value-add I see from his captaincy, with the exception of raising the fitness bar in Indian cricket.
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Old 14th September 2018, 02:35   #405
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I will tackle the Pujara issue in the second part.

You and I are largely on the same page as far as what the issues are. While I'm definitely not for favoritism, obviously- it's not always as cut and dry, black and white. It's not humanly possible to trust and believe in everyone equally and inevitably someone gets a longer rope than others. Does that excuse what happened with Nair? Absolutely not. That was a shambles!

I don't think Kohli's a good captain at all and have been harping about that for a long time- even back when we were winning at home. I really worry about the time when MSD will quit ODIs coz we'll be in real trouble then, I think.

His tactical inadequacies can, theoretically be solved by a good coach, and based on Kumble's own stint as captain, I rate him highly- but there needs to be one in place first.

Finally, coming to the question of Pujara...
In 6 County matches, he had the highest score of 41! And the problem was it wasn't because he was out of form as the Limited Overs leg showed. His form was fine- it was his technique in slightly faster swing and seam-friendly conditions that were highly suspect.
Given that background, would I have played him at Edgbaston? No. I'd much rather have given a shot to Nair who was actually playing with the A team for a month and had done decently.
Pujara would certainly have started for me at Trent Bridge where the conditions were more sedate, and obviously, Southampton which had the history of being spin friendly.

I don't think that much thought was put in, though.
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Old 17th September 2018, 12:00   #406
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And what was the excuse for dropping Pujara? In what universe does a Test batting line-up manage have to space for Dhawan and Hardik Pandya but not Pujara?

And why don't Pujara and Rahane get the largesse that KL Rahul and Hardik Pandya do? And why does Karun Nair get humiliated, in contrast to the preferential treatment given out to Rahul?

Fundamentally - do you think the way Kohli approaches team selection, tactics and strategy justify the complete power he's gotten himself by bullying Anil Kumble out of the coach's job and replacing him with a moronic yes-man?

Note I'm not even measuring Kohli against his dismal results away from home (and they have been dismal - I have no time for the "scoreline doesn't reflect the series" excuses - damn well it does, especially over a 5-Test series) because I acknowledge there are a number of variables out of a captain's control. But there's no real value-add I see from his captaincy, with the exception of raising the fitness bar in Indian cricket.
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I will tackle the Pujara issue in the second part.

You and I are largely on the same page as far as what the issues are. While I'm definitely not for favoritism, obviously- it's not always as cut and dry, black and white. It's not humanly possible to trust and believe in everyone equally and inevitably someone gets a longer rope than others. Does that excuse what happened with Nair? Absolutely not. That was a shambles!

I don't think Kohli's a good captain at all and have been harping about that for a long time- even back when we were winning at home. I really worry about the time when MSD will quit ODIs coz we'll be in real trouble then, I think.

His tactical inadequacies can, theoretically be solved by a good coach, and based on Kumble's own stint as captain, I rate him highly- but there needs to be one in place first.

Finally, coming to the question of Pujara...
In 6 County matches, he had the highest score of 41! And the problem was it wasn't because he was out of form as the Limited Overs leg showed. His form was fine- it was his technique in slightly faster swing and seam-friendly conditions that were highly suspect.
Given that background, would I have played him at Edgbaston? No. I'd much rather have given a shot to Nair who was actually playing with the A team for a month and had done decently.
Pujara would certainly have started for me at Trent Bridge where the conditions were more sedate, and obviously, Southampton which had the history of being spin friendly.

I don't think that much thought was put in, though.
Agree with it all
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India U-19 cruise to an Asia Cup win of their own.
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Old 14th October 2018, 21:23   #408
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Hadn't realised Gambhir s still going. 69 ball century in the Hazare Cup today.
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