ECB's 4(?) household names - Page 4

Aidan11 · 2nd September 2016, 15:04

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

It's a useless list.

Especially as there's no mention of Gavin Hamilton

Michelle Fivefer · 2nd September 2016, 15:39

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Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

I didn't know where to put this

Wisden editor just creeps into The Cricketer magazine Power 50 list

Wisden has always regarded itself as the ultimate authority on cricket - but that's not the judgment of The Cricketer magazine.

Wisden's editor Lawrence Booth just creeps into the Top 50 most influential people in English cricket - at No 50 - according to the latest edition of The Cricketer, published today.

1. Colin Graves, 2. Andrew Strauss, 3. Shashank Manohar, 4. Tom Harrison, 5. Joe Root, 6. Barney Francis (Sky Sports), 7. Michael Vaughan, 8. Alastair Cook, 9. Ben Gallop (BBC digital), 10. Gordon Hollins, 11. Mike Atherton, 12. Derek Brewer, 13. Lord Patel, 14. Martyn Wilson (NatWest), 15. Jonathan Agnew, 16. Trevor Bayliss, 17. David Lloyd, 18. Richard Thompson, 19. Mike Brearley, 20. Giles Clarke, 21. Andy Flower, 22. Mark Arthur, 23. Delia Bushell (BT Sport), 24. Clare Connor, 25. Neil Fairbrother, 26. Anurag Thakur, 27. Jason Ratcliffe, 28. Eoin Morgan, 29. Geoffrey Boycott, 30. Nasser Hussain, 31. George Dobell, 32. Steve Elworthy, 33. Matt Dwyer, 34. Wasim Khan, 35. James Anderson, 36. Paul Farbrace, 37. Moeen Ali, 38. Rod Bransgrove, 39. Simon Hughes, 40. Ben Stokes, 41. Kevin Pietersen, 42. James Sutherland, 43. Ian Botham, 44. Neil Snowball, 45. Bryan Henderson (Sky Sports producer), 46. Nick Hoult, 47. Mark Nicholas, 48. Nathan Leamon, 49. Adam Mountford, 50. Lawrence Booth.

But what do they mean by influential? Who do they think or hope is being influenced? Players could me to the attention of the public, but what does that mean? Is it influence on the cricket hierarchy, on the standing of the game itself or what? I would say that Andrew Strauss is the most important figure in Emglish cricket, well above Coln Graves.

**geoff_boycotts_grandmother** · 2nd September 2016, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer

But what do they mean by influential? Who do they think or hope is being influenced? Players could me to the attention of the public, but what does that mean? Is it influence on the cricket hierarchy, on the standing of the game itself or what? I would say that Andrew Strauss is the most important figure in Emglish cricket, well above Coln Graves.

Strauss is answerable to Graves though.

1000yardstare · 2nd September 2016, 16:00

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother

Strauss is answerable to Graves though.

You feel Tom Harrison and Strauss are really in charge while Graves gets some 'mediocres' in.

CDogg16 · 2nd September 2016, 16:13

Strange list.

Vaughan more influential than Cook? Morgan only just ahead of Hussain and Boycott? How does Delia Bushall have any influence when BT shows no Englsih cricket?

Aidan11 · 2nd September 2016, 16:16

Have they not just got hold of Bob Willis' Enemies list and put it under a new title?

1000yardstare · 2nd September 2016, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

Have they not just got hold of Bob Willis' Enemies list and put it under a new title?

Michelle Fivefer · 2nd September 2016, 18:03

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother

Strauss is answerable to Graves though.

I'd put money on Strauss being able to negotiate that to his own advantage.

billyguntheballs · 4th September 2016, 12:09

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Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother

Joe Root, Ben Stokes and Jos Buttler should all be superstars.

They have real star quality to them, but it's hidden behind a paywall.

I know this is an old post but I agree with this...with regards to Root anyway. He is one of the premier sportsmen in this country but unless you follow cricket consistently, you won't even recognise him on the streets.

This is all down to the ECB and their selling rights to ALL cricket in England to Sky, which has a sub base of 8-10 million....with far fewer subbing to sky sports.

Michelle Fivefer · 4th September 2016, 13:04

The thread title is ECB household names. But we've got sidetracked by an article about most influential people in cricket. The most influential aren't necessarily or even likely to be household names. I agree that our star players ought to be household names and the lack of a presence on freeview TV doesn't help.

Rebelstar · 7th September 2016, 12:47

Root might creep in, but I think you'd be talking the kind of cricketing X-factor type scenario so whoever best fits in a boyband might make it as a "household name".

Thinking Stokes might, Buttler if both played, be a laugh if Moeen was. Not sure a household name is something you can really expect like you might in football say, a lot of people don't like cricket, some will even go to lengths to tell you why it's boring even though that's as daft as telling someone who believes in god why he doesn't exist and vice versa...........

Ali TT · 16th September 2016, 21:52

John Cena? Seth Rollins? Roman Reigns? The New Day?

Bigger than cricket http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37384828

luckyluke · 17th September 2016, 11:04

I'd just like to say it's a real shame that none of the England team share their name with a well-known cleaning or kitchen product as that would be a real funny gag about this "household name" business. Ben Toilet-Duckett is the closest I've got. Poor effort from the selectors.

I suppose Cook and Buttler obviously sound like staff but that's not the angle I was going for.

Ali TT · 17th September 2016, 11:14

Wood condoms?

cabinboy · 17th September 2016, 11:17

We do have a Willey.

luckyluke · 17th September 2016, 14:29

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Originally Posted by Ali TT

Wood condoms?

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/TIGER-WOODS-...-/261597341545

More of a niche item than a household name tbh

Ali TT · 17th September 2016, 15:08

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Originally Posted by luckyluke

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/TIGER-WOODS-...-/261597341545

More of a niche item than a household name tbh

Ali TT · 26th September 2017, 17:21

This should help increase Stokes' public profile.

**geoff_boycotts_grandmother** · 27th September 2017, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Ali TT

This should help increase Stokes' public profile.

The public can now identify him in a police line-up.

Ali TT · 31st March 2018, 19:30

So Pointless tonight had a round to name the leading English test run scorers tonight. Photos of the 16 options were displayed on the screen. The highest scoring answers were those players from the 70s-90s, with today's household names seemingly as obscure as those long dead heroes from the 30s, 40s and 50s

4th September 2016, 13:04	#70
Michelle Fivefer Posting Goddess Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North West England Team(s): England, Lancashire Posts: 42,508	The thread title is ECB household names. But we've got sidetracked by an article about most influential people in cricket. The most influential aren't necessarily or even likely to be household names. I agree that our star players ought to be household names and the lack of a presence on freeview TV doesn't help. __________________ As balanced and focused as the next man

16th September 2016, 21:52	#72
Ali TT Posting God Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19,357	John Cena? Seth Rollins? Roman Reigns? The New Day? Bigger than cricket http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/37384828 __________________ WARNING Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.

17th September 2016, 11:04	#73
luckyluke Established International Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,465	I'd just like to say it's a real shame that none of the England team share their name with a well-known cleaning or kitchen product as that would be a real funny gag about this "household name" business. Ben Toilet-Duckett is the closest I've got. Poor effort from the selectors. I suppose Cook and Buttler obviously sound like staff but that's not the angle I was going for. __________________ Most heartless decision: In a women's league match in Denmark, a heavily pregnant woman arrived at the crease, and asked for a runner. Her request was denied, on the grounds that her incapacity had not occured during the course of the match.

17th September 2016, 11:14	#74
Ali TT Posting God Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19,357	Wood condoms? __________________ WARNING Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.

26th September 2017, 17:21	#78
Ali TT Posting God Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19,357	This should help increase Stokes' public profile. __________________ WARNING Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.

2nd September 2016, 16:13	#65
CDogg16 Established International Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 4,000	Strange list. Vaughan more influential than Cook? Morgan only just ahead of Hussain and Boycott? How does Delia Bushall have any influence when BT shows no Englsih cricket?

2nd September 2016, 16:16	#66
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 40,207	Have they not just got hold of Bob Willis' Enemies list and put it under a new title?

7th September 2016, 12:47	#71
Rebelstar International Material Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,797	Root might creep in, but I think you'd be talking the kind of cricketing X-factor type scenario so whoever best fits in a boyband might make it as a "household name". Thinking Stokes might, Buttler if both played, be a laugh if Moeen was. Not sure a household name is something you can really expect like you might in football say, a lot of people don't like cricket, some will even go to lengths to tell you why it's boring even though that's as daft as telling someone who believes in god why he doesn't exist and vice versa...........

17th September 2016, 11:17	#75
cabinboy Posting God Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,717	We do have a Willey.

31st March 2018, 19:30	#80
Ali TT Posting God Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19,357	So Pointless tonight had a round to name the leading English test run scorers tonight. Photos of the 16 options were displayed on the screen. The highest scoring answers were those players from the 70s-90s, with today's household names seemingly as obscure as those long dead heroes from the 30s, 40s and 50s __________________ WARNING Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.

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