England Lions

**V4never** · 29th November 2010, 16:31

We seem to have lost the Lions/EPP thread so I thought I would re-instate it. OK, it's hard to get info on how they're shadowing the main team in Oz but there is some stuff out there and some of them are doing really well.

Also an insight I love (well, I would, wouldn't I?) into life as a Lion with Jimmy Adams blogging on the Hampshire website.

http://www.rosebowlplc.com/news/food...rowing-things/

Slater · 23rd January 2011, 16:14

I'd like to see

Jimmy Adams
Adam Lyth
Ravi Bopara
James Hildreth (C)
James Taylor
Craig Kieswetter (+)
Adil Rashid
Liam Plunkett
James Harris
Jade Dernbach
Maurice Chambers

Actually I'd prefer Finn over Dernbach but I gather Finn is staying in Australia after the Bresnan injury. Suspect Gale will play also.

They arrive (Monday) tommorow.

**Zebroston Chase** · 23rd January 2011, 16:16

Is there no-one else we can take than Plunkett? Seems a waste of a position to me. Also we should totally send Davies out there.

1000yardstare · 23rd January 2011, 21:42

Of all the openers we have tried the one I liked the most was Kieswetter. I hope that he can get back into the England one day squad.

I would also like to see Tayor play for England but there are others in the queue ahead of him like Morgan, Hildreth and Bopara so he could have a chance in ODIs. Can change tempo according to the game situation and very quick between the wickets, always looking to make ones into twos.

None of the bowlers interest me but we do have a long line up who have already played for England and should keep out anyone else for the next few years.

Anderson, Broad, Tremlett, Onions, Finn, Bresnan, Shahzad, Woakes.

William · 23rd January 2011, 21:48

No chance of seeing an attack of Harris, Woakes, Finn and Rashid then :\.

Harris is the one I hope does well. Strangely unnoticed by many, yet clearly very talented.

1000yardstare · 23rd January 2011, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by William

No chance of seeing an attack of Harris, Woakes, Finn and Rashid then :\.

Harris is the one I hope does well. Strangely unnoticed by many, yet clearly very talented.

I definitely want to see Rashid. I would have preferred to have him in the WC squad to Tredwell. I am sure Woakes and Finn will be playing this year in one form or another. Harris is still young and has time ahead of him.

**Rey** · 24th January 2011, 17:28

Buck called up to the Lions as cover for Finn

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...ry/498168.html

Slater · 27th January 2011, 21:14

An article about the 'Lions' on the ECB website mentioned England A had competed in the West Indies domestic competition a decade ago. Searched around on the net and found Cricket Archive had scorecards from the Competition.

Minor Maggie · 27th January 2011, 21:33

Some blasts from the past in there. There are only 2 players who are still in the England fold who featured in this series.

One took 18 wickets at 20.11 including 9 in one match. Bell played one game because he was playing for the U-19 team.

**geoff_boycotts_grandmother** · 27th January 2011, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slater

An article about the 'Lions' on the ECB website mentioned England A had competed in the West Indies domestic competition a decade ago. Searched around on the net and found Cricket Archive had scorecards from the Competition - Busta Cup 2000/01.

West Indies B v England A: England A won by 224 runs
Trinidad and Tobago v England A: Draw
Guyana v England A: Draw
Barbados v England A: Draw
Jamaica v England A: England A won by 7 wickets
Windward Islands v England A: England A won by an innings and 17 runs
Leeward Islands v England A: Draw

Busta Cup 2000/01 Points Table
1) Barbados - 57 Points (4 Wins, 3 Draws)
2) Guyana - 57 Points (3 Wins, 4 Draws)
3) England A - 54 Points (3 Wins, 4 Draws)
4) Jamaica - 51 Points (3 Wins, 3 Draws, 1 Defeat)
5) Leeward Islands - 48 Points (3 Wins, 3 Draws, 1 Defeat)
6) Trinidad and Tobago - 38 Points (2 Wins, 3 Draws, 2 Defeats)
7) West Indies B - 20 Points (1 Win, 2 Draws, 4 Defeats)
8) Windward Islands - 0 Points (7 Defeats)

The only different fixture this time around is against 'Combined Campuses & Colleges' rather than West Indies B. If Wikipedia is correct Barbados have been the most successful domestic side, however Jamaica have won the last 3 First Class Titles. England Lions start their tour tommorow with a two day warm up game against a St Kitts/Nevis combined side.

I think the selectors have done a better job this time round. That was rather a poor team.

GloriousGloucesters · 28th January 2011, 07:04

Gloucestershire captain, Gloucestershire opening bowler - those were the days

Psyduck · 28th January 2011, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother

I think the selectors have done a better job this time round. That was rather a poor team.

I'm happy with the batting but the bowling looks a bit weak in the absence of Finn and Woakes. I don't think the likes of Plunkett, Chambers and Dernbach are likely to make it at international level.

**Zebroston Chase** · 28th January 2011, 13:00

Yet but Chambers is well fast and we all know the value of an express bowler bowling juicy full tosses onto the batsman's pads.

**Chin Music** · 28th January 2011, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psyduck

I'm happy with the batting but the bowling looks a bit weak in the absence of Finn and Woakes. I don't think the likes of Plunkett, Chambers and Dernbach are likely to make it at international level.

Chambers was actually a bit useful last season and is worth a punt in a development side. Not saying he's close to international honours right now but I think he has promise for one.

Psyduck · 28th January 2011, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin Music

Chambers was actually a bit useful last season and is worth a punt in a development side. Not saying he's close to international honours right now but I think he has promise for one.

How old is he Chin?

**Zebroston Chase** · 28th January 2011, 13:06

He's only 23.

half-tracker · 28th January 2011, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slater

An article about the 'Lions' on the ECB website mentioned England A had competed in the West Indies domestic competition a decade ago. Searched around on the net and found Cricket Archive had scorecards from the Competition - Busta Cup 2000/01.

West Indies B v England A: England A won by 224 runs
Trinidad and Tobago v England A: Draw
Guyana v England A: Draw
Barbados v England A: Draw
Jamaica v England A: England A won by 7 wickets
Windward Islands v England A: England A won by an innings and 17 runs
Leeward Islands v England A: Draw

Busta Cup 2000/01 Points Table
1) Barbados - 57 Points (4 Wins, 3 Draws)
2) Guyana - 57 Points (3 Wins, 4 Draws)
3) England A - 54 Points (3 Wins, 4 Draws)
4) Jamaica - 51 Points (3 Wins, 3 Draws, 1 Defeat)
5) Leeward Islands - 48 Points (3 Wins, 3 Draws, 1 Defeat)
6) Trinidad and Tobago - 38 Points (2 Wins, 3 Draws, 2 Defeats)
7) West Indies B - 20 Points (1 Win, 2 Draws, 4 Defeats)
8) Windward Islands - 0 Points (7 Defeats)

The only different fixture this time around is against 'Combined Campuses & Colleges' rather than West Indies B. If Wikipedia is correct Barbados have been the most successful domestic side, however Jamaica have won the last 3 First Class Titles. England Lions start their tour tommorow with a two day warm up game against a St Kitts/Nevis combined side.

Wasn't that the tour when David Sales did some horrific injury to himself and pretty much ended any chance of playing for England?

paulsre · 28th January 2011, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1000yardstare

I would also like to see Tayor play for England but there are others in the queue ahead of him like Morgan, Hildreth and Bopara so he could have a chance in ODIs. Can change tempo according to the game situation and very quick between the wickets, always looking to make ones into twos.

Taylor should queue-jump then.

Rigs · 28th January 2011, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slater

An article about the 'Lions' on the ECB website mentioned England A had competed in the West Indies domestic competition a decade ago. Searched around on the net and found Cricket Archive had scorecards from the Competition - Busta Cup 2000/01.

West Indies B v England A: England A won by 224 runs
Trinidad and Tobago v England A: Draw
Guyana v England A: Draw
Barbados v England A: Draw
Jamaica v England A: England A won by 7 wickets
Windward Islands v England A: England A won by an innings and 17 runs
Leeward Islands v England A: Draw

Busta Cup 2000/01 Points Table
1) Barbados - 57 Points (4 Wins, 3 Draws)
2) Guyana - 57 Points (3 Wins, 4 Draws)
3) England A - 54 Points (3 Wins, 4 Draws)
4) Jamaica - 51 Points (3 Wins, 3 Draws, 1 Defeat)
5) Leeward Islands - 48 Points (3 Wins, 3 Draws, 1 Defeat)
6) Trinidad and Tobago - 38 Points (2 Wins, 3 Draws, 2 Defeats)
7) West Indies B - 20 Points (1 Win, 2 Draws, 4 Defeats)
8) Windward Islands - 0 Points (7 Defeats)

The only different fixture this time around is against 'Combined Campuses & Colleges' rather than West Indies B. If Wikipedia is correct Barbados have been the most successful domestic side, however Jamaica have won the last 3 First Class Titles. England Lions start their tour tommorow with a two day warm up game against a St Kitts/Nevis combined side.

How times have changed, back then there was Read, Sidebottom, Afzaal, Swann, Franks and Alleyne who all went on to play for Notts. This time around only the Notts manager is on the tour......bodes well then

shivfan · 29th January 2011, 12:09

The latest scores on their two-day matches with St Kitts can be found here....

http://www.cricket-match-special.com...php?f=8&t=3881

29th November 2010, 16:31	#1
V4never Administrator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: south coast Team(s): England, Hampshire, Yorkshire, Pentyrch Posts: 10,131	England Lions We seem to have lost the Lions/EPP thread so I thought I would re-instate it. OK, it's hard to get info on how they're shadowing the main team in Oz but there is some stuff out there and some of them are doing really well. Also an insight I love (well, I would, wouldn't I?) into life as a Lion with Jimmy Adams blogging on the Hampshire website. http://www.rosebowlplc.com/news/food...rowing-things/ __________________ "For Michael Vaughan to use those lines and those words, it does make me feel quite ill." Iain O'Brien

23rd January 2011, 16:14	#2
Slater International Material Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Herefordshire Team(s): England Posts: 1,878	I'd like to see Jimmy Adams Adam Lyth Ravi Bopara James Hildreth (C) James Taylor Craig Kieswetter (+) Adil Rashid Liam Plunkett James Harris Jade Dernbach Maurice Chambers Actually I'd prefer Finn over Dernbach but I gather Finn is staying in Australia after the Bresnan injury. Suspect Gale will play also. They arrive (Monday) tommorow. Last edited by Slater : 7th December 2016 at 18:54.

24th January 2011, 17:28	#7
Rey Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Castleford Team(s): Yorkshire Posts: 14,312	Buck called up to the Lions as cover for Finn http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...ry/498168.html __________________ "He has sat on the fence so long that the iron has entered his soul."

27th January 2011, 21:14	#8
Slater International Material Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Herefordshire Team(s): England Posts: 1,878	An article about the 'Lions' on the ECB website mentioned England A had competed in the West Indies domestic competition a decade ago. Searched around on the net and found Cricket Archive had scorecards from the Competition. Last edited by Slater : 13th October 2012 at 19:49.

28th January 2011, 07:04	#11
GloriousGloucesters World Class Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chippenham, Wiltshire Team(s): Gloucestershire CCC, Swindon Town FC Age: 37 Posts: 6,592	Gloucestershire captain, Gloucestershire opening bowler - those were the days __________________ "You want the moon on a stick"

23rd January 2011, 21:42	#4
1000yardstare Posting Goddess JA 815 Cummins 149 Wagner 147 Curran 21 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London Posts: 20,543	Of all the openers we have tried the one I liked the most was Kieswetter. I hope that he can get back into the England one day squad. I would also like to see Tayor play for England but there are others in the queue ahead of him like Morgan, Hildreth and Bopara so he could have a chance in ODIs. Can change tempo according to the game situation and very quick between the wickets, always looking to make ones into twos. None of the bowlers interest me but we do have a long line up who have already played for England and should keep out anyone else for the next few years. Anderson, Broad, Tremlett, Onions, Finn, Bresnan, Shahzad, Woakes.

23rd January 2011, 21:48	#5
William International Cricketer Join Date: Mar 2007 Team(s): Worcestershire, Hawthorn Posts: 2,779	No chance of seeing an attack of Harris, Woakes, Finn and Rashid then :\. Harris is the one I hope does well. Strangely unnoticed by many, yet clearly very talented.

27th January 2011, 21:33	#9
Minor Maggie Buttleresque Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Leeds Team(s): Lancashire, England Posts: 26,708	Some blasts from the past in there. There are only 2 players who are still in the England fold who featured in this series. One took 18 wickets at 20.11 including 9 in one match. Bell played one game because he was playing for the U-19 team.

29th January 2011, 12:09	#20
shivfan County Pro Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 510	The latest scores on their two-day matches with St Kitts can be found here.... http://www.cricket-match-special.com...php?f=8&t=3881 __________________ For friendly discussions on international cricket, visit http://www.cricket-match-special.com/index.php

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