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Old 18th August 2016, 13:08   #41
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I said he had played three outstanding innings (his three tons), but then you listed three that did not include this one. So it would seem that according to you this was not an outstanding innings, as you rated a knock of 58 against SA as in his top three, and did not mention the ton in Australia.
As gbg struggles to express what he means, I'll interpret for him: if you're saying that Stokes has only had three outstanding innings then you're by default describing all of his others as not outstanding. Grannie was suggesting that the ones he listed were all outstanding. If you didn't see them the you would struggle to comment on them, wouldn't you?
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Old 18th August 2016, 13:11   #42
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As with many arguments/debates on forums there could be different interpretations on what constitutes "outstanding"......

One of my favourites is "world class", although there was a fun "underwhelming" debate regarding a football signing that made for a lot of 'fun'
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Old 18th August 2016, 13:14   #43
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As gbg struggles to express what he means, I'll interpret for him: if you're saying that Stokes has only had three outstanding innings then you're by default describing all of his others as not outstanding. Grannie was suggesting that the ones he listed were all outstanding. If you didn't see them the you would struggle to comment on them, wouldn't you?
I saw all three of the innings GBG mentioned and would only count the 258 as outstanding. Also, just because you don't see something I think you can still comment on it if you are well informed about it, otherwise we would be in a situation where history could not be commented on.
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Old 18th August 2016, 13:53   #44
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Bairstow is arguably England's 3rd best batsman now. The problem is that to bat him in the top 5 on a regular basis, you would need him to get rid of the gloves as to do both would be too much, especially in Asia. I am worried about how he keeps to spin as well, as he will have a lot of that coming up.
That definitely is going to be a challenge, especially with the variable bounce that could be expected from our turning tracks. In fact, it would pose a challenge even against the pacers, with the ball not really carrying at a consistent height throughout the game.
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Old 18th August 2016, 20:07   #45
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I saw all three of the innings GBG mentioned and would only count the 258 as outstanding. Also, just because you don't see something I think you can still comment on it if you are well informed about it, otherwise we would be in a situation where history could not be commented on.
How well informed are you?
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Old 18th August 2016, 22:25   #46
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How well informed are you?
I am commenting on something I have seen, so I don't need to be well informed.
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Old 18th August 2016, 22:33   #47
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I am commenting on something I have seen, so I don't need to be well informed.
Probably a good job. More seriously, I didn't see the 58 but the 92 against NZ was an excellent innings, which combined with his admittedly even better second innings facilitated an otherwise highly unlikely win. England looked in a world of trouble when he came to the crease.
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Old 19th December 2016, 16:08   #48
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What record did Bairstow set today? Something about most overs without conceding a bye.
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Old 19th December 2016, 16:33   #49
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What record did Bairstow set today? Something about most overs without conceding a bye.
He conceded 2 byes.

England only conceded 7 extras in total though.
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Old 19th December 2016, 16:35   #50
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He conceded 2 byes.

England only conceded 7 extras in total though.
First time for a lot of overs but I forget how many.
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What record did Bairstow set today? Something about most overs without conceding a bye.
Most runs conceded without any byes I think it was, his language when he did miss the stumping may cost him some money however.
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Old 21st December 2016, 11:22   #52
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How good a batsman do we believe he has the potential to be?
I have not seen him in CC but his recent record is exceptional.

I appreciate he wants to keep - but having done that whilst the opposition stacks up +700 in hot conditions cannot be conducive to a long innings.

Personally I believe he should bat 4/5 and concentrate on being a top class Test batsman.

What do people think?
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Old 21st December 2016, 11:34   #53
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I'm happy for Bairstow to keep the role as it allows us to play a specialist #7 batsman.

I think we should let him continue in the dual role until it appears that either of the individual ones may be suffering as a result of the other. At the moment, there is no sign of that.
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Old 21st December 2016, 12:19   #54
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I think we should let him continue in the dual role until it appears that either of the individual ones may be suffering as a result of the other. At the moment, there is no sign of that.
I am not great with Cricinfo stats guru and don't always judge everything by stats but Bairstow's average when England bat first is 56 if we field first 25. Does that not indicate that he would score more runs if he didn't keep?
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Too small a sample size to leap to that conclusion, I'd say.
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Just in time for Xmas. Hope nobody makes the mistake of thinking I may want to read it.
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How presumptuous; any road up, enough worries about someone on here, present company not excepted.
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