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Old 22nd July 2017, 13:52   #361
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Kohli's T20 numbers are stupid: much better average (and SR) than in either other format and it's not even that small a sample size. He averages much less in T20s overall at 40.6, SR 132.6 but even that's rather good.
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Old 22nd July 2017, 15:05   #362
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De Kock moving from 7 to 5 to 4. I wonder if it's a good idea. Already lost his 51.26 average.
Well its the only option, really. He's one of the 3 best batsmen in the side. And almost 10 years younger than the other 2. So makes no sense to have him batting with the lower order as a matter of course. Even if he does it quite well.

Bigger issue is his workload. Especially when SA have had a long bowling innings, then lose early wickets. Will mean even more time on his fitness. But that's the lot of a genuine all-rounder, I suppose.
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Old 25th July 2017, 09:58   #363
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Well its the only option, really. He's one of the 3 best batsmen in the side. And almost 10 years younger than the other 2. So makes no sense to have him batting with the lower order as a matter of course. Even if he does it quite well.

Bigger issue is his workload. Especially when SA have had a long bowling innings, then lose early wickets. Will mean even more time on his fitness. But that's the lot of a genuine all-rounder, I suppose.
They shold keep QDK at 5. I don't think he has the game just yet to bat higher up, against a better moving ball. My biggest issue with his batting that he tsill plays too much like an ODI batsman, with his bat always coming acrosst he line and almost horizontal. He really needs to work on playing morel ike a test bat.
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Old 31st July 2017, 00:02   #364
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54 Tests 5251 runs at 61.05 HS215 20 100s 20 50s - Smith (27)
58 Tests 5191 runs at 54.07 HS254 13 100s 30 50s - Root (26)
61 Tests 5116 runs at 51.16 HS242* 17 100s 25 50s - Williamson (26)
59 Tests 4616 runs at 49.63 HS235 17 100s 14 50s - Kohli (28)

Time to drop de Kock from this list as I don't think he will get many runs at number 4 as he would at 7. He has gone down from 51.26.

23 Tests 1518 runs at 44.64 HS129 3 100s 11 50s - de Kock (24)

Kohli's average drops under 50.00.

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Old 6th August 2017, 12:35   #365
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While us English fans bemoan the efforts of our top order, there was interesting stats on Cricinfo about South Africa's opening partnership. Since the start of the NZ tour, in 13 innings, SA's openers have not managed to get past 21 without losing the first wicket and average just 12 runs.

More longer term, they've really struggled against the better fast bowling sides (Eng, Aus, NZ) over the past 3-4 years.

It does go to show that opening is not an easy role and good (let alone great) test openers are difficult to come by. SA have one in Elgar, but they've not found any to stay with him over the last couple of years.
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Elgar is far from amazing either, he's just a lot better than the guys he's opened with.
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Elgar is far from amazing either, he's just a lot better than the guys he's opened with.
And out today before they even reached their paltry average!
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