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Old 6th February 2017, 20:14   #1181
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A good bowler, maybe, but not even Pakistan's greatest ever. In fact, he wasn't even the best to play in the Pakistan sides of his era.
Shaoib at his peak was some bowler.

I'd say he was easily their best bowler at his peak (although fair enough if you're arguing that Waqar at his much earlier peak was better).

2002-03 he took 72 wickets at 15.08. That included matches against Australia, SA, WI, NZ. The only side during that spell he took wickets at over 21.80 against was Sri Lanka (in a single test).

Injuries did limit both him and that peak though.
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Bowling under captains

Cook 09-16 59 Tests - 31.06 econ 3.08 s/r 60.4 (seam 28.86 spin 36.64)
Atherton 93-01 54 Tests - 32.49 econ 2.90 s/r 67.1 (seam 29.91 spin 43.92)
Strauss 06-12 50 Tests - 32.79 econ 3.09 s/r 63.6 (seam 32.57 spin 33.36)
Vaughan 03-08 51 Tests - 33.20 econ 3.18 s/r 62.5 (seam 31.33 spin 40.94)
Hussain 99-03 45 Tests - 33.81 econ 3.09 s/r 65.5 (seam 30.95 spin 44.38)
Pietersen 08-09 3 Tests - 36.85 econ 3.13 s/r 70.4 (seam 36.93 spin 36.72)
Flintoff 05-07 11 Tests - 36.98 econ 3.26 s/r 67.9 (seam 36.21 spin 39.54)

Wickets per match of current bowlers (top 30 in Test rankings)

5.73 - Shah
5.60 - Ashwin
4.90 - Steyn
4.84 - Jadeja
4.68 - Herath
4.35 - Rabada
4.26 - MDK Perera
4.11 - Starc
4.06 - Wagner
3.93 - Hazelwood
3.90 - Maharaj
3.86 - Anderson
3.80 - Boult
3.71 - Philander
3.68 - Lyon
3.59 - Al Hasan
3.58 - Bishoo
3.57 - Broad
3.57 - Southee
3.48 - Morkel
3.40 - Siddle
3.37 - Shami
3.12 - Riaz
3.00 - Ali
2.83 - Sharma
2.82 - Woakes
2.78 - Yadav
2.57 - Pradeep
2.46 - Gabriel
2.38 - Stokes

England not good.

England's bowling under the various coaches

Troy Cooley May 03 - Mar 06
141 wickets at 27.93 econ 3.17 s/r 54.5 - Harmison
134 wickets at 28.43 econ 3.04 s/r 56.0 - Flintoff
131 wickets at 26.74 econ 3.25 s/r 49.2 - Hoggard
54 wickets at 27.87 econ 3.53 s/r 47.2 - Jones
41 wickets at 33.00 econ 3.65 s/r 54.1 - Anderson

Kevin Shine 11 May 06 - 20 June 07
42 wickets at 36.52 econ 3.59 s/r 60.9 - Harmison
38 wickets at 35.71 econ 3.19 s/r 67.1 - Hoggard
23 wickets at 36.30 econ 3.14 s/r 69.3 - Flintoff
20 wickets at 36.60 econ 3.37 s/r 65.0 - Plunkett
20 wickets at 38.10 econ 4.04 s/r 56.5 - Mahmood
11 wickets at 17.00 econ 2.83 s/r 36.00 - Sidebottom
5 wickets at 82.60 econ 4.42 s/r 112.0 - Anderson

Allan Donald Jun 07 - Sep 07
14 wickets at 35.57 econ 3.40 s/r 62.7 - Anderson
13 wickets at 29.69 econ 2.69 s/r 66.0 - Tremlett
8 wickets at 37.87 econ 2.58 s/r 87.7 - Sidebottom

Ottis Gibson Oct 07 - Jan 10
96 wickets at 32.98 econ 3.29 s/r 60.1 - Anderson
77 wickets at 35.38 econ 3.19 s/r 66.4 - Broad
55 wickets at 28.16 econ 2.79 s/r 60.5 - Sidebottom
29 wickets at 38.00 econ 2.76 s/r 82.3 - Flintoff
28 wickets at 31.03 econ 3.64 s/r 51.0 - Onions
21 wickets at 41.57 econ 3.30 s/r 75.5 - Harmison
8 wickets at 44.50 econ 3.49 s/r 76.5 - Hoggard
3 wickets at 32.33 econ 3.12 s/r 62.0 - Bresnan

No bowling coach to Bangladesh March 2010
7 wickets at 32.28 econ 2.72 s/r 71.1 - Bresnan
6 wickets at 46.00 econ 3.49 s/r 79.0 - Broad
4 wickets at 44.25 econ 3.47 s/r 76.5 - Finn

David Saker 8 Apr 10 - 16 Mar 15
224 wickets at 26.17 econ 2.77 s/r 56.6 - Anderson
181 wickets at 27.03 econ 2.95 s/r 54.8 - Broad
86 wickets at 28.70 econ 3.66 s/r 47.0 - Finn
62 wickets at 32.80 econ 3.05 s/r 64.3 - Bresnan
40 wickets at 26.12 econ 3.06 s/r 51.0 - Tremlett
22 wickets at 32.90 econ 3.53 s/r 55.8 - Stokes
18 wickets at 34.44 econ 3.31 s/r 62.2 - Plunkett
15 wickets at 33.06 econ 3.28 s/r 60.4 - Jordan
6 wickets at 52.16 econ 3.29 s/r 95.0 - Woakes

Ottis Gibson 26 Mar 15 -
115 wickets at 25.74 econ 2.85 s/r 54.0 - Broad
107 wickets at 21.46 econ 2.51 s/r 51.1 - Anderson
64 wickets at 35.93 econ 3.38 s/r 63.6 - Stokes
42 wickets at 26.07 econ 3.01 s/r 51.9 - Woakes
26 wickets at 40.65 econ 3.40 s/r 71.6 - Wood
35 wickets at 32.97 econ 3.35 s/r 58.9 - Finn

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Old 11th March 2017, 13:21   #1183
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Bowlers in the England set up.

Tests ODIs 20/20s and Lions
(updated)

First class
214 games 7189.1 overs 823 wickets at 25.84 econ 2.95 s/r 52.4 40/6 - Anderson (35)
177 games 5594.2 overs 637 wickets at 27.34 econ 3.11 s/r 52.6 26/3 - Broad (31)
154 games 3935.5 overs 450 wickets at 31.60 econ 3.61 s/r 52.4 11/1 - Plunkett (32)
140 games 4231.1 overs 506 wickets at 28.84 econ 3.44 s/r 50.1 12/1 - Finn (28)
125 games 3485.3 overs 429 wickets at 24.95 econ 3.07 s/r 48.7 18/4 - Woakes (28)
111 games 2151.4 overs 248 wickets at 30.72 econ 3.54 s/r 52.0 5/1 - Stokes (26)
94 games 2837.0 overs 353 wickets at 25.48 econ 3.17 s/r 48.2 16/3 - Roland-Jones (29)
92 games 2514.5 overs 345 wickets at 25.77 econ 3.53 s/r 43.7 21/1 - Footitt (31)
90 games 2533.4 overs 269 wickets at 32.40 econ 3.43 s/r 56.5 8/0 - Jordan (28)
79 games 2067.4 overs 267 wickets at 29.34 econ 3.78 s/r 46.4 11/2 - Meaker (28)
64 games 1486.4 overs 161 wickets at 30.32 econ 3.28 s/r 55.4 5/1 - Willey (27)
55 games 1433.3 overs 168 wickets at 27.14 econ 3.18 s/r 51.1 4/0 - COverton (23)
45 games 1489.0 overs 167 wickets at 29.42 econ 3.30 s/r 53.4 6/1 - T Curran (22)
45 games 993.1 overs 103 wickets at 34.99 econ 3.62 s/r 57.8 2/0 - JOverton (23)
44 games 1264.1 overs 171 wickets at 25.69 econ 3.47 s/r 44.3 4/0 - Porter (24)
42 games 1045.5 overs 135 wickets at 26.25 econ 3.38 s/r 46.4 4/0 - Ball (26)
41 games 1067.4.0 overs 125 wickets at 28.81 econ 3.37 s/r 51.2 6/0 - Wood (27)
41 games 1082.2 overs 113 wickets at 33.77 econ 3.52 s/r 57.4 5/1 - Fuller (27)
34 games 994.2 overs 127 wickets at 26.77 econ 3.42 s/r 46.9 7/2 - Topley (23)
30 games 688.0 overs 76 wickets at 31.36 econ 3.46 s/r 54.3 4/0 - S Curran (19)
16 games 421.1 overs 44 wickets at 32.13 econ 3.35 s/r 57.4 1/0 - Helm (23)
7 games 148.1 overs 14 wickets at 41.21 econ 3.89 s/r 63.5 0/0 - Garton (20)
3 games 83.0 overs 9 wickets at 34.33 econ 3.72 s/r 55.3 0/0 - Mahmood (20)

List A
255 games 2069.0 overs 352 wickets at 28.41 econ 4.83 s/r 35.2 - Anderson (35)
176 games 1266.1 overs 227 wickets at 30.28 econ 5.42 s/r 33.4 - Plunkett (32)
151 games 1249.2 overs 216 wickets at 30.51 econ 5.27 s/r 34.7 - Broad (31)
139 games 999.0 overs 162 wickets at 34.05 econ 5.52 s/r 37.0 - Woakes (28)
134 games 1055.1 overs 188 wickets at 28.67 econ 5.10 s/r 33.6 - Finn (28)
126 games 565.4 overs 111 wickets at 29.43 econ 5.77 s/r 30.5 - Stokes (26)
104 games 615.5 overs 105 wickets at 33.31 econ 5.68 s/r 35.1 - Willey (27)
76 games 518.4 overs 89 wickets at 33.55 econ 5.75 s/r 34.9 - Ball (26)
72 games 549.4 overs 109 wickets at 28.84 econ 5.71 s/r 30.2 - Jordan (28)
71 games 538.2 overs 113 wickets at 24.29 econ 5.09 s/r 28.5 - Roland-Jones (29)
66 games 420.0 overs 75 wickets at 34.33 econ 6.13 s/r 33.6 - Meaker (28)
52 games 384.3 overs 78 wickets at 26.82 econ 5.44 s/r 29.5 - TCurran (22)
52 games 360.1 overs 70 wickets at 29.74 econ 5.78 s/r 30.8 - Fuller (27)
51 games 383.2 overs 58 wickets at 34.94 econ 5.28 s/r 39.6 - COverton (23)
45 games 345.4 overs 78 wickets at 24.83 econ 5.60 s/r 26.5 - Topley (23)
45 games 340.0 overs 59 wickets at 29.81 econ 5.17 s/r 34.5 - Wood (27)
37 games 275.1 overs 47 wickets at 31.72 econ 5.42 s/r 35.1 - S Curran (19)
36 games 221.5 overs 47 wickets at 29.51 econ 6.25 s/r 28.3 - Footitt (31)
24 games 158.5 overs 37 wickets at 27.89 econ 6.49 s/r 25.7 - JOverton (23)
18 games 117.0 overs 21 wickets at 26.47 econ 4.75 s/r 33.4 - Helm (23)
15 games 107.0 overs 20 wickets at 34.50 econ 6.44 s/r 32.1 - Garton (20)
14 games 94.3 overs 15 wickets at 33.13 econ 5.25 s/r 37.8 - Porter (24)
11 games 74.0 overs 8 wickets at 57.37 econ 6.20 s/r 55.5 - Mahmood (20)

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Old 12th March 2017, 12:35   #1184
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Shaoib at his peak was some bowler.

I'd say he was easily their best bowler at his peak (although fair enough if you're arguing that Waqar at his much earlier peak was better).

2002-03 he took 72 wickets at 15.08. That included matches against Australia, SA, WI, NZ. The only side during that spell he took wickets at over 21.80 against was Sri Lanka (in a single test).

Injuries did limit both him and that peak though.
I gotta agree with this. Remember watching his as a kid and he was just fast, so deadly, got swing and reverse, an almost complete fast bowlers and really, along with Lee, the last time we can use the word fast in all its glory.

But we do have to take into account entire careers and ocme backs from injury and Waz is the best Pakistan had and the best I have seen in my life time and arguably the greatest of them all.
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I gotta agree with this. Remember watching his as a kid and he was just fast, so deadly, got swing and reverse, an almost complete fast bowlers and really, along with Lee, the last time we can use the word fast in all its glory.

But we do have to take into account entire careers and ocme backs from injury and Waz is the best Pakistan had and the best I have seen in my life time and arguably the greatest of them all.
Not sure what you mean by saying "the last time we can use the word fast in all its glory" but in more recent years the likes of Steyn, Morkel, Johnson, Starc, Wahab and Gabriel have all been in a similar pace bracket.
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The Knuckle Ball

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Is he?

I seem to remember suggesting he was a leading self-publicist and him and Slogger getting into a big argument about it.

I'm sure Chin will remember it.
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Is he?

I seem to remember suggesting he was a leading self-publicist and him and Slogger getting into a big argument about it.

I'm sure Chin will remember it.
Think it was all Joe Didly and IGHOLS.
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Tye's figures on debut in the IPL.

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Over 60% of Tye's deliveries were sub-120kph knuckle balls, including 4 of his wickets. He became the first bowler to bag a hat-trick and a 5-for on IPL debut.

One of his 5 (Stokes probably now practising how to bowl it )

12.1
Tye to Stokes, OUT, confounds Stokes with a slower ball. That's Tye's specialty. Another knuckle ball on off and middle, Stokes misses a flick and the ball goes through between a big gap between bat and pad. Knocks into the off stump. An inside edge into the pad and then the stumps
BA Stokes b Tye 25 (28m 18b 2x4 1x6) SR: 138.88

His 20/20 figures for Australia 5 matches 5 wickets at 37.60 econ 10.25.

Players in the IPL not used to the knuckle ball or just the Rising Pune Supergiant? We will see how he progresses.

Andrew Tye on his knuckle ball: "It has probably taken me five-six years to get to the stage where it is today"
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He should have had another wicket rather than gone for 2 runs last ball as it was badly dropped by Jadeja so could have been 4-0-15-6. Is interesting that he went for loads playing internationals. He was part of a weak attack there though, so up against set batsmen most of the time but then he was mostly bowling to set batsmen yesterday too, except when he'd just got a wicket.
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Injuries to the England's fast bowlers
Centrally contracted bowlers

Anderson - Test debut May 2003
Sep 2003 - left knee, rested from Bangladesh tour
Nov 2003 - twisted ankle after 1st ODI in SL. Two rained off, misses 2 Tests.
Jun 2004 - bruised heel misses 2 Tests v NZ and 1 v WI
Mar 2006 - stress fracture, misses 3 Tests/5 ODIs SL and 4 Tests/5 ODIs Pak
Jan 2007 - leaves CB series after stiff back
Mar 2007 - breaks little finger but plays in World Cup
Nov 2007 - ankle injury misses warm up in SL
Sep 2009 - carrying knee injury from 4th Ashes Test and rested from 2 ODIs
Dec 2009 - plays 4 Tests with knee injury in SA
Jan 2010 - rested from Bangladesh tour 2 Tests
Oct 2010 - broken rib in Germany
Dec 2010 - back scan after Perth Ashes but plays in next 2 Ashes Tests.
May 2011 - side strain, misses 2nd Test SL
Aug 2011 - hamstring doesn't miss any Tests
Dec 2013 - cracked rib didn't miss the 3 remaining Ashes Tests. Fit again end of Feb
Nov 2014 - given an extra six weeks to recover from a knee niggle and misses SL ODIs
Jan 2015 - stiff groin, misses 1st ODI in Australia
July 2015 - side strain, misses 4th & 5th Ashes Test
Dec 2015 - stiff calf, misses 1st Test v SA
June 2016 - shoulder injury .. misses f/c game for Lancs & 1st Test Pak
Aug 2016 - ongoing shoulder rehab - misses 2 cc games
Sep 2016 - ongoing shoulder rehab - misses 2 Tests in Bangladesh in Oct and 1st Test in India Nov and misses 5th Test due to stiff body
May 2017 - groin tear

Broad - Test debut Dec 2007
Nov 2008 - knee injury in warm up match before ODIs in India, plays all matches.
Sep 2009 - knee problem, misses 2 ODIs v Aus
Oct 2009 - torn buttock, misses 1 ODI in Champions Trophy.
Mar 2010 - plays in Bangladesh with a back problem but misses 3rd ODI & rested for Ban home for S&C
Nov 2009 - shoulder injury, misses 2 ODIs v SA
Dec 2010 - abdominal muscle tear misses 3 Ashes Tests and ODIs.
Mar 2011 - side strain misses 4 ODIs in World Cup and IPL
Sep 2011 - muscle tear to shoulder misses ODI series in India
Mar 2012 - misses 2nd Test SL and IPL with calf strain
Dec 2012 - heel injury misses 2 warm up matches
May 2013 - knee injury, misses 2 ODIs v NZ
Jun 2013 - stiff shoulder, has cortisone injection and misses Essex warm up game.
July 2013 - misses first innings in 1st Ashes Test - hit on shoulder by Pattinson.
Dec 2013 - bruised foot, hit by Johnson, misses 2nd innings.
Jan 2014 - sore knee, misses 2 ODIs in Australia
Mar 2014 - patella tendinitis, misses two 20/20s v WI
Aug 2014 - Broad to have knee surgery and likely to miss the SL ODIs. Recovery 3 to 4 months.
Aug 2014 - broken nose
Sep 2014 - operation to knee
Aug 2016 - stress reaction in left ankle. Rested from cc games
Nov 2016 - toe tendon injury
June 2017 - heel injury only bowls 1 over in 2nd inns v Leics. Scan

Finn - Test debut Mar 2010
Oct 2012 - hamstring, misses 1st Test v India
Dec 2012 - minor disc damage lower back misses 4th Test in India
May 2012 - sore shins - misses 2 ODIs v NZ
Sep 2013 - slight side strain - misses last ODI v Australia
Nov 2014 - groin strain, misses 1 ODI in SL
Oct 2015 - stress injury to left foot, misses 3 Tests in UAE, ODIs and 20/20. Plays Lions
Jan 2016 - stiff side misses 4th Test in SA and ODIs and 20/20s
Feb 2016 - calf injury misses 20/20 World Cup
Aug 2016 - torn hamstring in 4th Test v Pak. Out for 4 weeks.

Woakes - Test debut Aug 2013
May 2011 - sore shins - misses out Lions v Sri Lanka
Oct 2011 - strained quad, misses out ODIs v India
Mar 2015 - metarsal stress reaction, misses out last ODI in WC and out of West Indies tour
Apr 2015 - knee problem, operation for a meniscal tear, misses England v NZ Tests
Sep 2015 - right thigh problem, misses last 2 ODIs v Aus
Nov 2016 - cracked finger and knee niggle
May 2017 - quad niggle, misses 2nd ODI v SA
Jun 2017 - side strain, out of CT

Stokes - Test debut Dec 2013
Jun 2011 - dislocated finger, out for 6 to 8 weeks
Nov 2011 - out for six months after surgery on right index finger
May 2012 - back injury, misses Lions v WI at home
Mar 2014 - fractured right wrist, has surgery & misses 20/20 WC and first month of the season
Nov 2015 - injured collarbone in 3rd Test. Out of ODIs and 20/20s in UAE
May 2016 - knee injury misses 2nd innings 1st Test v SL and out for 6 weeks.
July 2016 - torn left calf muscle - misses 2nd inns 2nd Test and 3rd Test against Pakistan
May 2017 - sore shoulder in IPL, knee soreness in 1st ODI v SA only bowls 2 overs

Wood - Test debut May 2015
Sep 2013 - torn side muscle
Feb 2014 - side strain in warm up game Lions v Sri Lanka, out mid July to end of Sep
Jul 2015 - ankle injury - misses 2nd Ashes Test
Oct 2015 - ankle injury - misses 3rd Test in UAE, 2nd cortisone injection in 6 months
Nov 2015 - has ankle operation and misses Tests and ODIs and 20/20 in SA
April 2016 - has second operation of his ankle
Sep 2016 - ankle injury recurrence, misses ODIs and Tests in Bangladesh
Oct 2016 - needs 3rd operation to ankle which is broken. Misses India series. Out for 3 months
Apr 2017 - groin strain, misses county game
July 2017 - heel injury, misses 3rd Test v SA

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Veyr imrpessive seeing the reverse from Ali, Amir and Junaid yesterday. It is an aboslute novelty these days and those 3 won a match with it...like Pakistan teams of old.
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An update on ODI fast bowlers updated 7 July 2017

1 ODI - 2 wickets at 18.50 econ 5.84 s/r 19.0 - Ashraf (23)
22 ODIs - 44 wickets at 19.79 econ 4.89 s/r 24.2 - Rahman (21)
4 ODIs - 10 wickets at 19.80 econ 5.68 s/r 20.9 - de Lange (23)
68 ODIs - 134 wickets at 20.13 econ 4.81 s/r 25.0 - Starc (27)
32 ODIs - 56 wickets at 20.58 econ 4.55 s/r 27.1 - H Hassan (29)
29 ODIs - 47 wickets at 21.57 econ 5.07 s/r 25.5 - Davey (26)
14 ODIs - 20 wickets at 21.95 econ 5.37 s/r 24.5 - S Binny (32)
1 ODI - 2 wickets at 22.00 econ 4.88 s/r 27.0 - Raees (25)
21 ODIs - 42 wickets at 22.66 econ 5.47 s/r 24.8 - Hasan Ali (23)
16 ODIs - 27 wickets at 23.00 econ 5.84 s/r 26.5 - Bennett (30)
38 ODIs - 64 wickets at 23.85 econ 4.69 s/r 30.5 - Hazlewood (26)
9 ODIs - 6 wickets at 24.00 econ 5.76 s/r 25.0 - Shanaka (25)
30 ODIs - 41 wickets at 24.04 econ 4.62 s/r 31.1 - Philander (31)
112 ODIs - 186 wickets at 24.48 econ 4.94 s/r 29.7 - Morkel (32)
49 ODIs - 91 wickets at 24.69 econ 5.46 s/r 27.0 - Shami (26)
14 ODIs - 21 wickets at 24.90 econ 5.20 s/r 28.7 - Al-Amin Hossain (26)
1 ODI - 1 wicket at 25.00 econ 5.00 s/r 30.0 - Abbott (25)
49 ODIs - 60 wickets at 25.03 econ 6.06 s/r 24.7 - C Anderson (26)
32 ODIs - 61 wickets at 25.26 econ 5.62 s/r 26.9 - Henry (25)
51 ODIs - 90 wickets at 25.48 econ 5.00 s/r 30.5 - Boult (27)
10 ODIs - 16 wickets at 25.62 econ 5.31 s/r 28.9 - Topley (22)
40 ODIs - 65 wickets at 26.30 econ 5.11 s/r 30.8 - Rabada (22)
16 ODIs - 26 wickets at 26.42 econ 4.92 s/r 32.1 - Bumrah (23)
116 ODIs - 180 wickets at 26.62 econ 4.94 s/r 32.3 - Steyn (33)
15 ODIs - 23 wickets at 26.65 econ 5.29 s/r 30.2 - Gabriel (29)
12 ODIs - 19 wickets at 26.73 econ 5.09 s/r 31.4 - Kulkarni (28)
170 ODIs - 240 wickets at 27.02 econ 4.72 s/r 34.2 - Mills (37)
16 ODIs - 27 wickets at 27.18 econ 5.38 s/r 30.2 - Coulter-Nile (29)
54 ODIs - 77 wickets at 27.29 econ 5.24 s/r 31.2 - McLaren (34)
31 ODIs - 53 wickets at 27.30 econ 5.54 s/r 29.5 - Cummins (24)
36 ODIs - 55 wickets at 27.41 econ 4.84 s/r 33.9 - Amir (25)
13 ODIs - 25 wickets at 27.48 econ 6.46 s/r 25.5 - McCarthy (24)
29 ODIs - 43 wickets at 27.97 econ 5.68 s/r 29.5 - T Ahmed (22)
109 ODIs - 135 wickets at 28.06 econ 4.89 s/r 34.3 - Maharoof (32)
10 ODIs - 13 wickets at 28.07 econ 4.91 s/r 34.3 - Pretorius (28)
67 ODIs - 99 wickets at 28.10 econ 4.98 s/r 33.8 - Roach (28)
62 ODIs - 94 wickets at 28.12 econ 5.35 s/r 31.5 - JKhan (27)
85 ODIs - 126 wickets at 28.16 econ 5.13 s/r 32.8 - Taylor (33)
47 ODIs - 82 wickets at 28.20 econ 5.94 s/r 28.4 - McClenaghan (30)
199 ODIs - 298 wickets at 28.39 econ 5.29 s/r 32.2 - Malinga (33)
59 ODIs - 84 wickets at 28.44 econ 5.33 s/r 32.0 - Zadran (29)
22 ODIs - 36 wickets at 28.77 econ 5.61 s/r 30.7 - Wardlaw (31)
65 ODIs - 94 wickets at 29.12 econ 5.64 s/r 30.9 - Parnell (27)
194 ODIs - 269 wickets at 29.22 econ 4.92 s/r 35.6 - Anderson (34)
130 ODIs - 179 wickets at 29.34 econ 5.19 s/r 33.8 - Gul (32)
92 ODIs - 117 wickets at 29.35 econ 5.10 s/r 34.4 - Rampaul (32)
69 ODIs - 102 wickets at 29.37 econ 5.06 s/r 34.8 - Finn (28)
87 ODIs - 121 wickets at 29.47 econ 4.99 s/r 35.4 - Sami (35)
29 ODIs - 42 wickets at 29.90 econ 5.07 s/r 35.3 - Hastings (31)
67 ODIs - 95 wickets at 30.08 econ 5.50 s/r 32.8 - Faulkner (26)
121 ODIs - 178 wickets at 30.13 econ 5.26 s/r 34.3 - Broad (30)
22 ODIs - 25 wickets at 30.36 econ 5.27 s/r 34.5 - Jongwe (21)
64 ODIs - 87 wickets at 30.47 econ 5.50 s/r 33.1 - Lakmal (30)
24 ODIs - 32 wickets at 30.50 econ 5.76 s/r 31.8 - Prasad (33)
57 ODIs - 88 wickets at 30.53 econ 5.78 s/r 31.6 - Plunkett (32)
179 ODIs - 232 wickets at 30.54 econ 4.74 s/r 38.5 - Mortaza (33)
60 ODIs - 83 wickets at 30.71 econ 4.91 s/r 37.4 - Irfan (34)
28 ODIs - 34 wickets at 30.91 econ 4.83 s/r 38.3 - Abbott (29)
80 ODIs - 115 wickets at 30.98 econ 5.72 s/r 32.4 - Sharma (28)
13 ODIs - 19 wickets at 31.42 econ 5.37 s/r 35.0 - S Khan (32)
46 ODIs - 56 wickets at 31.48 econ 4.94 s/r 38.1 - Rankin (32)
63 ODIs - 89 wickets at 31.60 econ 5.58 s/r 33.9 - Woakes (28)
4 ODIs - 5 wickets at 31.60 econ 4.38 s/r 43.2 - Cutting (29)
15 ODIs - 14 wickets at 31.92 econ 5.59 s/r 34.2 - Tripano (28)
119 ODIs - 129 wickets at 32.27 econ 5.78 s/r 33.4 - Perera (28)
51 ODIs - 64 wickets at 32.28 econ 5.84 s/r 33.1 - Russell (28)
63 ODIs - 84 wickets at 32.50 econ 5.40 s/r 36.0 - Holder (25)
18 ODIs - 21 wickets at 32.66 econ 5.74 s/r 34.0 - Eranga (30)
70 ODIs - 98 wickets a 32.84 econ 5.92 s/r 33.2 - Yadav (29)
26 ODIs - 31 wickets at 32.90 econ 5.45 s/r 36.1 - MSharma (28)
14 ODIs - 18 wickets at 32.94 econ 4.96 s/r 39.7 - Bracewell (26)
12 ODIs - 18 wickets at 33.11 econ 6.27 s/r 31.6 - Joseph (20)
41 ODIs - 55 wickets at 33.16 econ 5.19 s/r 38.3 - Chatara (26)
119 ODs - 160 wickets at 33.22 econ 5.36 s/r 37.1 - Southee (28)
184 ODIs - 199 wickets at 33.92 econ 4.90 s/r 41.5 - Kulasekara (34)
1 ODI - 1 wicket at 34.00 econ 4.85 s/r 42.0 - Roland-Jones (29)
179 ODIs - 111 wickets at 34.04 econ 4.63 s/r 44.1 - Mathews (29)
79 ODIs - 102 wickets at 34.34 econ 5.68 s/r 36.2 - Riaz (31)
20 ODIs - 29 wickets at 34.41 econ 5.85 s/r 35.2 - Vitori (25)
17 ODI - 19 wickets at 34.73 econ 5.45 s/r 38.2 - Pandya (23)
28 ODIs - 33 wickets at 34.78 econ 5.72 s/r 36.4 - Willey (27)
85 ODIs - 109 wicket at 34.98 econ 5.42 s/r 38.7 - Bresnan (30)
6 ODI - 9 wickets at 35.11 econ 6.44 s/r 32.6 - Wiese (30)
77 ODIs - 93 wickets at 35.19 econ 5.65 s/r 37.3 - Rubel Hossain (27)
31 ODIs - 43 wickets at 35.37 econ 5.95 s/r 35.6 - Jordan (27)
2 ODIs - 3 wickets at 35.66 econ 5.35 s/r 40.0 - Sandhu (21)
62 ODIs - 71 wickets at 36.14 econ 5.22 s/r 41.5 - Tanvir (30)
48 ODIs - 41 wickets at 36.17 econ 5.58 s/r 38.8 - Marsh (25)
56 ODIs - 63 wickets at 36.41 econ 5.87 s/r 37.1 - Islam (27)
4 ODIs - 7 wickets at 36.42 econ 6.37 s/r 34.2 - Tremain (25)
29 ODIs - 33 wickets at 36.54 econ 5.55 s/r 39.4 - Morris (30)
14 ODIs - 20 wickets at 36.55 econ 5.95 s/r 36.8 - Ball (26)
14 ODIs - 18 wickets at 36.55 econ 5.81 s/r 37.7 - R Ali (27)
9 ODIs - 7 wickets at 37.57 econ 5.26 s/r 42.8 - Grandhomme (30)
17 ODIs - 18 wickets at 37.72 econ 5.87 s/r 38.5 - Phehlukwayo (21)
37 ODIs - 38 wickets at 37.73 econ 5.24 s/r 43.1 - Milne (25)
67 ODIs - 70 wickets at 37.74 econ 4.88 s/r 46.3 - BKumar (27)
41 ODIs - 34 wickets at 38.02 econ 6.51 s/r 35.0 - Neesham (26)
9 ODIs - 11 wickets at 38.09 econ 6.61 s/r 34.5 - Aaron (25)
79 ODIs - 87 wickets at 38.39 econ 5.40 s/r 42.6 - Mpofu (31)
6 ODIs - 7 wickets at 38.42 econ 5.34 s/r 43.1 - Sran (23)
12 ODIs - 14 wickets at 38.57 econ 5.34 s/r 43.2 - Richardson (24)
33 ODIs - 34 wickets at 38.61 econ 4.77 s/r 48.5 - Murtagh (35)
59 ODIs - 50 wickets at 39.14 econ 6.16 s/r 38.1 - Stokes (26)
10 ODIs - 11 wickets at 39.27 econ 5.69 s/r 41.3 - Gurney (28)
6 ODIs - 8 wickets at 39.37 econ 6.11 s/r 38.6 - Wheeler (23)
23 ODIs - 26 wickets at 40.00 econ 5.93 s/r 40.4 - Pradeep (30)
1 ODI - 1 wicket at 40.00 econ 10.00 s/r 24.0 - Mathieson (25)
18 ODIs - 25 wickets at 40.80 econ 6.98 s/r 35.0 - Chase (23)
13 ODIs - 11 wickets at 41.27 econ 6.37 s/r 38.8 - Chameera (25)
202 ODIs - 101 wickets at 42.31 econ 5.91 s/r 42.9 - Chigumbura (30)
15 ODIs - 16 wickets at 42.56 econ 5.62 s/r 44.4 - Pattinson (23)
19 ODIs - 21 wickets at 42.66 econ 5.39 s/r 47.4 - Wood (27)
2 ODIs - 3 wickets at 43.66 econ 6.55 s/r 40.0 - Mennie (27)
11 ODIs - 7 wickets at 43.71 econ 5.18 s/r 50.5 - Henriques (30)
14 ODIs - 16 wickets at 45.31 econ 6.07 s/r 44.7 - Boland (27)
65 ODIs - 65 wickets at 46.52 econ 5.59 s/r 49.8 - Panyangara (30)
23 ODIs - 21 wickets at 47.47 econ 5.72 s/r 49.7 - Brathwaite (28)
7 ODIs - 8 wickets at 50.87 econ 6.46 s/r 47.2 - Ferguson (25)
22 ODIs - 18 wickets at 52.44 econ 6.11 s/r 51.5 - A Ali (28)
2 ODIs - 2 wickets at 53.50 econ 8.23 s/r 39.0 - Cottrell (25)
4 ODIs - 4 wickets at 64.00 econ 8.53 s/r 45.0 - Kumara (20)
2 ODIs - 1 wicket 68.00 econ 5.23 s/r 78.0 - Stanlake (22)
10 ODIs - 6 wickets at 73.16 econ 6.44 s/r 68.1 - Bhatti (23)
3 ODIs - 1 wicket at 89.00 econ 5.23 s/r 102.0 - Yamin (25)
3 ODIs - 1 wicket at 171.00 econ 6.49 s/r 158.0 - Worrall (25)

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Ridiculously massive amount of stats, posted here. None of them take into consideration where they got their wickets, against whom, the quality of the batting etc. etc. Getting 6 wickets on a Trent Bridge green top as an international seamer should be easy. Go to Delhi, Karachi, Kandy as a spinner and you should be taking wickets.
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Keeping an eye on workloads
Overs bowled in 2016 (all forms)

Woakes 635.1
Broad 589.4
Ball 568.3
Stokes 547.5
Anderson 540.2
Finn 536.1
Jordan 419.3
Plunkett 405.4
Willey 358.2
Wood 192.0

2017

Roland-Jones 525.2
Broad 420.0
Anderson 410.5
Finn 348.5
Jordan 336.5
Ball 311.3
Wood 265.4
Stokes 260.4
Willey 227.0
Plunkett 221.3
Woakes 168.0

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Woakes will be well rested for T'Ashes.

Plunkett should definitely go to Aus...
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Bowling partners (updated)

60 Tests together
2286.3 overs 254 wickets at 25.67 econ 2.85 s/r 54.0 - Botham (36)
1964.4 overs 222 wickets at 24.62 econ 2.78 s/r 53.0 - Willis (35)
4251.1 overs 476 wickets at 25.18 econ 2.81 s/r 53.5
(won 25/60 bowling together - 244 wickets) 41.6% win

30 Tests together
980.4-189-3276-127 ~ 25.79 econ 3.34 s/r 46.3 - Gough (32)
1032.1-228-3089-106 ~ 29.14 econ 2.99 s/r 58.4 - Caddick (34)
2012.5-417-6365-233 ~ 27.31 econ 3.16 s/r 51.8
(won 13/30 bowling together - 139 wickets) 43.3% win

45 Tests together
1495.1-300-5025-166 ~ 30.27 econ 3.36 s/r 54.0 - Hoggard (31)
1662.4-317-5383-174 ~ 30.93 econ 3.23 s/r 57.3 - Harmison (30)
3157.5-617-10408-340 ~ 30.52 econ 3.29 s/r 55.7
(won 23/45 bowling together - 213 wickets) 51.1% win

95 Tests together
3530.0-912-9980-385 ~ 25.92 econ 2.82 s/r 55.0 - Anderson (35)
3260.1-725-9844-345 ~ 28.53 econ 3.01 s/r 56.6 - Broad (31)
6790.1-1637-19824-730 ~ 27.15 econ 2.91 s/r 55.8
(won 43/95 bowling together - 399 wickets) 45.2% win


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Ambrose and Walsh 95 Tests
7131.3 overs 762 wickets at 22.67 econ 2.42 s/r 56.1 36/5
Anderson and Broad 95 Tests
6790.1 overs 730 wickets at 27.15 econ 2.91 s/r 55.8 32/5
Younis and Akram 61 Tests
4353.2 overs 559 wickets at 22.12 econ 2.84 s/r 45.65 37/7
McGrath and Gillespie 58 Tests
4166.2 overs 496 wickets at 23.33 econ 2.67 s/r 50.3 26/3
Donald and Pollock 47 Tests
3397.5 overs 397 wickets at 21.84 econ 2.55 s/r 51.3 22/1

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The higher the combined bowling average, the higher the win percentage!
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Good spot.
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Just looking at the England team in county cricket
(Woakes saying it was difficult to get Stoneman out)

Cook - Anderson (3), Roland-Jones (1)
Stoneman - Woakes (4), Anderson (2), Roland-Jones (2), Ali (2), Crane (1), Westley (1), Broad (1)
Westley - Anderson (1), Roland-Jones (1), Crane (1), Ali (1), Malan (1)
Root - Stokes (2), Roland-Jones (1)
Malan - Crane (3), Woakes (2), Westley (2), Ali (1)
Stokes - Roland-Jones (3), Anderson (1), Woakes (1), Westley (1), Broad (1)
Bairstow - Stokes (3), Roland-Jones (2), Ali (2), Broad (1)
Ali - Roland-Jones (4), Woakes (3), Anderson (1), Broad (1)
Woakes - Anderson (1), Broad (1)
Roland-Jones - Woakes (1), Stokes (1), Crane (1), Ali (1)
Broad - Anderson (1), Woakes (1), Stokes (1)
Anderson - Woakes (1), Stokes (1), Broad (1)
Crane - Roland-Jones (1), Westley (1)
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