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Old 4th November 2014, 13:59   #1
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Batting and Batsmen thread

We don't seem to have one, or its buried dead, but anyhow.

Pakistani batsmen (who played in the last test series v Australia), averages Pakistan/UAE/away

Ahmed Shazad --/45.60/21.50
Mohammed Hafeez 37.15/35.73/30.28
Azhar Ali --/53.80/32.94
Younus Khan 59.31/55.60/50.52
Misbah-uk-Haq 28.40/60.28/45.40
Asad Shafiq --/41.23/35.44
Sarfraz Ahmed --/55.40/32.18
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Old 4th November 2014, 15:05   #2
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To go with our Bowlers and Bowling thread.

I wonder if Australia will be dropping any of the batsmen who played in the UAE. After seeing Misbah at 40 doing so well, will the selectors keep Rogers and Haddin going?
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Old 15th November 2014, 17:21   #3
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Some ODI batting stats

1st innings totals >300/total 1st innings (%)
2014 23/95 (24%)
2013 26/136 (19%)
2012 10/90 (11%)
2011 24/140 (17%)
2010 16/142 (11%)
2009 34/150 (23%)
2008 23/126 (18%)
2007 40/190 (21%)
2006 21/160 (13%)
2005 22/107 (21%)
2004 14/127 (11%)
2003 18/147 (12%)
2002 19/145 (13%)
2001 11/120 (9%)
2000 13/131 (10%)
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Old 15th November 2014, 18:01   #4
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Some ODI batting stats

1st innings totals >300/total 1st innings (%)
2014 23/95 (24%)
2013 26/136 (19%)
2012 10/90 (11%)
2011 24/140 (17%)
2010 16/142 (11%)
2009 34/150 (23%)
2008 23/126 (18%)
2007 40/190 (21%)
2006 21/160 (13%)
2005 22/107 (21%)
2004 14/127 (11%)
2003 18/147 (12%)
2002 19/145 (13%)
2001 11/120 (9%)
2000 13/131 (10%)
The fielding is getting worse? Rohit dropped 4 times, Bailey also dropped 4 times.
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Old 31st March 2015, 16:18   #5
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Think James Taylor had a good test against fast bowling facing Starc, Johnson, Hazlewood and Marsh for his 98*. If it wasn't for the umpire he would have made a 100.

He faced more balls against Starc than any of the other England players. Fastest ball 93.6. Also Starc's highest economy in the world cup was in this match at 5.22. All the other matches econ of 2 and 3 only getting up to 4.0 against Pakistan.

I wondered if it was because Taylor was short.

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Old 31st March 2015, 17:35   #6
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The England selectors don't think he's good enough for the test squad.
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Old 31st March 2015, 19:20   #7
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The England selectors don't think he's good enough for the test squad.
Would be interesting to know what they are basing this on. T20 form?
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Old 31st March 2015, 19:27   #8
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Would be interesting to know what they are basing this on.
Pietersen's comments from 3 years ago, apparently.
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The England selectors don't think he's good enough for the test squad.
I think he only scored one championship century for Notts last season. If he plays well at the start of the season he could be back up for the middle order going into the Ashes.
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Think James Taylor had a good test against fast bowling facing Starc, Johnson, Hazlewood and Marsh for his 98*. If it wasn't for the umpire he would have made a 100.

He faced more balls against Starc than any of the other England players. Fastest ball 93.6. Also Starc's highest economy in the world cup was in this match at 5.22. All the other matches econ of 2 and 3 only getting up to 4.0 against Pakistan.

I wondered if it was because Taylor was short.

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If Ballance fails Taylor might come into the side. I actually prefer Taylor to Ballance but Ballance had a fantastic debut last summer. He didn't bat well against Starc and co. in Australia. But he may well be a better batsman in England.

Taylor for his 98* got 22 off 16 balls v Starc. But that's his total facing Starc in WC and Tri-Series. If we look outside the WC, Bell and Root also took runs off Starc. Root for his 69 at Hobart got 21 off 13 balls. Bell for his 141 got 24 off 21 balls. Root didn't get any more runs off Starc in the Tri Series or WC, Bell added a few, altogether got 38 off 31 balls v Starc.
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After the Ashes where neither England or Asutralia looked convincing with the bat, the India Sri Lanka series has followed a similar pattern, with teams failing to record big scores. After the England NZ ODI series, where the teams posted 300 and 400 regularly, I wonder how long it will be before the average ODI score is higher than the average Test score?
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He asked how long, not when.

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He asked how long, not when.

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You can easily work it out from the date I've given you.

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Batsmen still playing

11867 - Chanderpaul (41)
9668 - Cook (30)
9071 - Younis Khan (37)
8181 - Pietersen (35)
7687 - Bell (33)
7606 - de Villiers (31)
7214 - Gayle (36)
6770 - Amla (32)
6008 - McCullum (34)
5492 - Dilshan (39)

Not sure if Chanderpaul, Gayle and Dilshan have retired. Pietersen hasn't.

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Chanderpaul hasn't retired, I don't think, although it seems unlikely he'll make a comeback. Does Khan not have an age because you don't trust his birth certificate?
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How soon do you know if a batsman is goiing to make it in Test cricket?

Cook - 17 Tests 48.78 6 100s
Root - 16 Tests 43.33 3 100s - first 200
Bell - 16 Tests 47.75 4 100s
Ballance 15 Tests 47.76 - 4 100s
Trott 14 Tests 59.95 - 4 100s
Pietersen 13 Tests 50.12 4 100s


Is there hope for Bairstow who would probably be a batsman/wicketkeeper. As a pure batsman it doesn't look likely.

Bairstow 19 Tests 26.73 - 0 100s

Morgan 16 Tests 30.43 - 2 100s
Bopara 13 Tests 31.94 - 3 100s

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Good piece here on Joe Root by Sir Michael Vaughan http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/pr...oot/index.html

The bit about playing spin bowling is particularly informative, not just because it contradicts the ECB led narrative on KP, but from a technical and mental view point as well - the looking to score off every ball.

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Good piece here on Joe Root by Sir Michael Vaughan http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/pr...oot/index.html

The bit about playing spin bowling is particularly informative, not just because it contradicts the ECB led narrative on KP, but from a technical and mental view point as well - the looking to score off every ball.

Read it.
OK. But now I'm newly curious about the GBG led narrative about the alleged ECB led narrative about KP. So since we've got a few days to kill before the next test, why don't you tell us what you mean?
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