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Old 21st June 2017, 18:37   #1
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England vs South Africa T20 Internationals Thread

First ball wicket for Willey. Saffers batting. Hot. 2 Wicket. Spell check made it Staffers.
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Old 21st June 2017, 18:38   #2
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First ball wicket for Willey Staffers batting. Hot.
First ball wicket for Wood as well, probably the best fielding side England have ever put out?
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First ball wicket for Wood as well, probably the best fielding side England have ever put out?
Yep..should be fun this.
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Old 21st June 2017, 19:22   #4
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I guess the in match comments are dead. Back to the chilled saumur and chicken chasseur then.
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T20 innit. And not a very explosive ones. Some decent figures for the spinners without really doing much.
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First ball wicket for Wood as well, probably the best fielding side England have ever put out?
The fielding has been pretty poor.

If you're fielding on the boundary you can't let the ball go over your head for 4.

Still, England will take that score.
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Yep. England should do it bar for Morny..if he's there.
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That Roy over was something else.

Wow.
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I didn't watch the first innings. What the hell were SA doing? Weird scorecard.
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The fielding has been pretty poor.

If you're fielding on the boundary you can't let the ball go over your head for 4.

Still, England will take that score.
Yeah not quite sure what was going on there, I've seen him a couple of times for Hampshire and never really noticed him in the field. On my first comment I missed that Stokes wasn't playing so expect a T20 team with him and Jordan in it has been better at some point, apart from that ball that went over Crane everything seemed to drop short of the fielders.

Complete performance from England really, never looked a good enough total.

South Africa just couldn't time the ball everything they miss hit seemed to drop short though hence them not losing too many wickets.
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That was quite a hammering. Some observations:

ABDV - WTF was that!? It was like watching Ian Bell attempt to play T20.
Behardien - the very definition of a quota pick. That was arguably his best international performance and it was modest at best. That drop was a shocker.
Pretorious - seriously?
Dawson and Crane were superb in the middle overs.
Nice to see Jason Roy get a few off the middle of the bat.
YJB - what a player. I think he is on the verge of graduating from a very good international batsman to a world class one. I hope he bats 5 in the test side.
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I didn't watch the first innings. What the hell were SA doing? Weird scorecard.
England bowled well but they consolidated for 14 overs rather than 4. De Villiers and Behardien could hardly get it off the square.
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I didn't watch the first innings. What the hell were SA doing? Weird scorecard.
Very strange. Normally when a side finishes with that sort of score it's because they've had a mad collapse. The Saffer batsmen just couldn't get going, even DeVillers couldn't time it. Looked as if there was something wrong with the pitch but England managed ok. Something not quite right with this South African team, their fielding was very slipshod as well.
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20/20 is just a waste of time. A money making enterprise. It simply is a passing fad. Was anybody there? It is of more interest when I see that Hameed got 0 and Jennings got a few against SA 2nd's. England's Test series against SA is the next serious cricket. Sloggerama bores me. It's like going to a boy band concert. I cannot wait to get down to the serious stuff.
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Very strange. Normally when a side finishes with that sort of score it's because they've had a mad collapse. The Saffer batsmen just couldn't get going, even DeVillers couldn't time it. Looked as if there was something wrong with the pitch but England managed ok. Something not quite right with this South African team, their fielding was very slipshod as well.
DeVil has lost it. He is going down the same road as Tres. I hope that the Saffer staff will look after him. I got a lot of stick for saying that we should never pick Tres again in (?) '06. He should (be) retire(d) now. For his own health. Sadly. At his peak I loved watching him bat. Obviously I didn't want him to get runs against Eng, but I can appreciate quality. Maybe I am being too gloomy, but I think he is in a very dark place atm.
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20/20 is just a waste of time. A money making enterprise. It simply is a passing fad. Was anybody there? It is of more interest when I see that Hameed got 0 and Jennings got a few against SA 2nd's. England's Test series against SA is the next serious cricket. Sloggerama bores me. It's like going to a boy band concert. I cannot wait to get down to the serious stuff.
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20/20 is just a waste of time. A money making enterprise. It simply is a passing fad. Was anybody there? It is of more interest when I see that Hameed got 0 and Jennings got a few against SA 2nd's. England's Test series against SA is the next serious cricket. Sloggerama bores me. It's like going to a boy band concert. I cannot wait to get down to the serious stuff.
Who's your favourite boy band Charlie? I've always had you pegged as a bit of a New Kidz fan.
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SA lookedl ike they wanted to go home last night. It's obvious that AB is no longer as dedicated as he once was (picking and choosing which series to play) and iwth a captain like that, the side can only go down.
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SA lookedl ike they wanted to go home last night. It's obvious that AB is no longer as dedicated as he once was (picking and choosing which series to play) and iwth a captain like that, the side can only go down.
All does not seem to be well with AB at the moment. With Du Plessis likely to miss the first test and Steyn ruled out of the entire series it's could prove to be a tough tour. There is an awful lot of pressure on the young shoulders of Rabada (who I happen to think is a exceptional bowler) on his first tour of England.
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Yeah not quite sure what was going on there, I've seen him a couple of times for Hampshire and never really noticed him in the field. On my first comment I missed that Stokes wasn't playing so expect a T20 team with him and Jordan in it has been better at some point, apart from that ball that went over Crane everything seemed to drop short of the fielders.

Complete performance from England really, never looked a good enough total.

South Africa just couldn't time the ball everything they miss hit seemed to drop short though hence them not losing too many wickets.
An average fielder in county cricket will quickly be shown up in international cricket. In some ways it's the biggest difference between the two levels.

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That was quite a hammering. Some observations:

ABDV - WTF was that!? It was like watching Ian Bell attempt to play T20.
Behardien - the very definition of a quota pick. That was arguably his best international performance and it was modest at best. That drop was a shocker.
Pretorious - seriously?
Dawson and Crane were superb in the middle overs.
Nice to see Jason Roy get a few off the middle of the bat.
YJB - what a player. I think he is on the verge of graduating from a very good international batsman to a world class one. I hope he bats 5 in the test side.
This is not a strong South African side.

Reeza Hendricks
JJ Smuts
AB de Villiers(c)
David Miller
Farhaan Behardien
Mangaliso Mosehle(wk)
Dwaine Pretorius
Wayne Parnell
Andile Phehlukwayo
Tabraiz Shamsi
Imran Tahir

There's only one quality bat in there and he's woefully out of sorts (one amazing shot for six aside). Other than that there's Miller who is ok and can be explosive when he comes off otherwise it's a lot of unknowns or not good enoughs.

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Very strange. Normally when a side finishes with that sort of score it's because they've had a mad collapse. The Saffer batsmen just couldn't get going, even DeVillers couldn't time it. Looked as if there was something wrong with the pitch but England managed ok. Something not quite right with this South African team, their fielding was very slipshod as well.
They're just not very good.

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20/20 is just a waste of time. A money making enterprise. It simply is a passing fad. Was anybody there? It is of more interest when I see that Hameed got 0 and Jennings got a few against SA 2nd's. England's Test series against SA is the next serious cricket. Sloggerama bores me. It's like going to a boy band concert. I cannot wait to get down to the serious stuff.
20/20 is great.

Means I can watch an entire game after work.

Had that been a a test I'd have been lucky to have seen half an hour of it.
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