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Old 23rd June 2017, 21:06   #41
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Old 23rd June 2017, 22:05   #42
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Bit of a choke from England there, we looked to be cruising before the Roy dismissal. I guess it's the right call, players used to abuse running in the way of the stumps and it peed me off no end.
A choke it was indeed. Must be something in the water at Taunton.
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Old 23rd June 2017, 22:14   #43
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Bit of a choke from England there, we looked to be cruising before the Roy dismissal. I guess it's the right call, players used to abuse running in the way of the stumps and it peed me off no end.
At the end, Bumble had to keep repeating that it was against the laws and Roy was quite rightly given out, but the other comms kept trying to discuss it as if there was a debate to be had.
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Old 23rd June 2017, 22:49   #44
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Sorry - yes, of course they are.

Poor chase that from England and not a great debut from Livingstone. Very impressed by Tom Curran.
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Old 24th June 2017, 08:22   #46
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Quite a few new players on show in this series, I caught glimpses of them in between some work and I've got to say I'm not that impressed with either the England or South African new kids. They look out of their depth at this level.

I never saw anything special in Sam Billings, think he's a bit overhyped and when the big boys come back he'll be straight out. Livingstone is batting at 4, but if I hadn't know that and just gone by his ball striking, I would have said he looks like a no 9.

These T20s are great to see some young fresh faces, but sadly, none of them look even half decent.
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Quite a few new players on show in this series, I caught glimpses of them in between some work and I've got to say I'm not that impressed with either the England or South African new kids. They look out of their depth at this level.

I never saw anything special in Sam Billings, think he's a bit overhyped and when the big boys come back he'll be straight out. Livingstone is batting at 4, but if I hadn't know that and just gone by his ball striking, I would have said he looks like a no 9.

These T20s are great to see some young fresh faces, but sadly, none of them look even half decent.
I agree to an extent, but Tom Curran had a pretty good start to his international career.
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At the end, Bumble had to keep repeating that it was against the laws and Roy was quite rightly given out, but the other comms kept trying to discuss it as if there was a debate to be had.
Third umpire had zero choice but to give him out as the circs are specifically dealt with in the ICC T20 rules (see below). It was poor to see Stokes mouthing off on Twitter about it being a "joke of a decision" when he clearly had not even bothered to read the ICC match regs. Good thing for Stokes he wasn't actually playing in the game else he would have had his match fee docked.

Also disappointing to hear Morgan call it a "50-50 decision" when it was actually 100 per cent cast in stone that it was out.

Law 37 relating to obstructing the field is specifically amplified by the ICC T20 Playing Conditions which applied to this match, as follows:


"Law 37 shall apply. For the avoidance of doubt, if an umpire feels that a batsman, in running between the wickets, has significantly changed his direction without probable cause and thereby obstructed a fielder’s attempt to effect a run out, the batsman should, on appeal, be given out, obstructing the field. It shall not be relevant whether a run out would have occurred or not. If the change of direction involves the batsman crossing the pitch, Law 42.14 shall also apply. "
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Quite a few new players on show in this series, I caught glimpses of them in between some work and I've got to say I'm not that impressed with either the England or South African new kids. They look out of their depth at this level.

I never saw anything special in Sam Billings, think he's a bit overhyped and when the big boys come back he'll be straight out. Livingstone is batting at 4, but if I hadn't know that and just gone by his ball striking, I would have said he looks like a no 9.

These T20s are great to see some young fresh faces, but sadly, none of them look even half decent.
Livingstone is clearly a good player. He has performed consistently well for both the lions and Lancashire. He is renowned for how hard he hits the ball. I thought he tried to be too clever with the scoops and flicks yesterday, when he should've just backed his straight hitting ability. Anyhow, we're not going to judge on one T20 innings, are we?

Sam Billings is slightly different. He's been given quite a few chances now (more than Bairstow), and he doesn't seem to be doing the business. One thing I would say is that most of his success for Kent has come when batting in the middle order. In his breakthrough season a couple of years ago, he was a fantastic finisher, often winning games from 5/6. Most of his England chances have come as opener. I'd like to see him go down the order for a few games.
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In the end the difference between the sides was the ball Jordan let between his legs for 4 in the first few overs.
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Old 24th June 2017, 23:00   #51
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In the end the difference between the sides was the ball Jordan let between his legs for 4 in the first few overs.
He was supposed to be in the gun fielders' 11!
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He was supposed to be in the gun fielders' 11!
He's long since been dropped from every other England side, so it can't be that he's good enough at batting or bowling.
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England lost the toss and will bat first. Morgan, Bairstow, Dawson out. Nobody really cares who wins this, do they?
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On Malan's debut, Bumble: "it's great for a young lad coming in.....". He's nearly 30 ffs.
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On Malan's debut, Bumble: "it's great for a young lad coming in.....". He's nearly 30 ffs.
A wee slip of a nipper compared to Bumble, though, eh?
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Old 25th June 2017, 14:15   #56
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Odd team news, I cannot fathom why Bairstow needs to leave the squad early? Hales will play for Notts next week but he stays? Plunkett at 7?

Pitch looks green and SA win the toss, England might get a shellacking if the big guns don't fire and the ball moves around. Then again, its t20 so who knows.
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Why would any captain rest himself? Morgan sits this game out, despite this being the ground where England came a cropper in the CT.
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Odd team news, I cannot fathom why Bairstow needs to leave the squad early? Hales will play for Notts next week but he stays? Plunkett at 7?

Pitch looks green and SA win the toss, England might get a shellacking if the big guns don't fire and the ball moves around. Then again, its t20 so who knows.
I get the feeling Bairstow doesn't really fit into Morgan's ideal side, despite being such a good player.
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That is an awful team. We clearly don't care. Plunkett at 7? LOLZ.
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I see Bumble's point about Morgan resting: wouldn't he want to have a look at the new player and 1 match veterans at close quarters when under pressure?
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