Cricket 24/7  

Welcome to the Cricket 24/7.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. There are also more forums available to members, such as the Lounge - where members chat about just about anything under the sun except cricket!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.


Go Back   Cricket 24/7 > Cricket Discussion Forums > International Cricket
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Casino Articles Terms of Use Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22nd June 2017, 16:42   #1
Zebroston Chase
Not Lara or Chanderpaul but the best you've got
 
Zebroston Chase's Avatar
When Hope is gone, I will appear.
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Glasgow
Team(s): AFC Hornchurch, Essex, England
Age: 33
Posts: 18,456
Ireland and Afghanistan Enter the Test Fold

Been ratified by the ICC this afternoon.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/c...y/1105347.html

What does this mean for the two countries and test cricket going forward. Will Eoin Morgan be tempted to re-qualify for Ireland now? What will the first test in Kabul be like?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by High Druid Nathan Barley View Post
I'm fully aware of his thinking, which merely underlines the point that he's an idiot.
Zebroston Chase is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 17:04   #2
Hector
International Cricketer
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southampton
Team(s): Deportivo Finance, Hampshire, Berkshire
Age: 38
Posts: 2,804
Great news. If i was Ireland i'd be looking for a series against Zimbabwe to see if they can pick up an early victory and some momentum.
__________________
www.yahooovercowcorner.wordpress.com


@YahoooverCC
Hector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 17:19   #3
sharky
Posting God
 
sharky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Sussex
Team(s): Sussex, England
Posts: 10,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hector View Post
Great news. If i was Ireland i'd be looking for a series against Zimbabwe to see if they can pick up an early victory and some momentum.
Both countries should be in a decent place to play one or two Tests against the teams touring England and Pakistan. I suspect Afghanistan are in a better position regarding sheer talent going forward but I doubt will get any proper home games. Overall I think it's a positive move, and I'm glad for Ed Joyce.
__________________
She was like a candle in the wind...Unreliable
sharky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 18:05   #4
Ali TT
Posting God
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 16,618
I wonder how many cricketers in county cricket, Sheffield Shield, SA provincial cricket and the Plunkett shield will soon be claiming they have an Irish grandmother.

Irish cricket has regressed recently but even if they started to improve again I'd wager they are 10-15 years away from offering the bigger test nations a decent game. Afghanistan might be a bit further along but I'm not enthused about more cricket matches played in the desert in empty stadia.
__________________
WARNING
Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.
Ali TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 19:06   #5
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
Do Gooder
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali TT View Post
Irish cricket has regressed recently but even if they started to improve again I'd wager they are 10-15 years away from offering the bigger test nations a decent game. Afghanistan might be a bit further along but I'm not enthused about more cricket matches played in the desert in empty stadia.

Absolutely 100% wrong. It hasn't regressed, it's gone forward. Ireland has first class domestic cricket, it didn't have that five years ago. It's got a youth structure, it's developing the women's game, it's attracted long term advertisers.

In Dublin where the tests will take place, there has been a huge uptake of interest in the game. The grounds will only be empty if the ticket pricing is wrong.
cabinboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 19:18   #6
Hector
International Cricketer
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southampton
Team(s): Deportivo Finance, Hampshire, Berkshire
Age: 38
Posts: 2,804
Quote:
Originally Posted by cabinboy View Post
Absolutely 100% wrong. It hasn't regressed, it's gone forward. Ireland has first class domestic cricket, it didn't have that five years ago. It's got a youth structure, it's developing the women's game, it's attracted long term advertisers.

In Dublin where the tests will take place, there has been a huge uptake of interest in the game. The grounds will only be empty if the ticket pricing is wrong.
Progress on those lines may have been even quicker if Irish cricket had been awarded full member status earlier and been able to keep players such as Ed Joyce and Eoin Morgan. Hopefully now they wont have to worry about any up and coming players being tempted to play for England.
__________________
www.yahooovercowcorner.wordpress.com


@YahoooverCC
Hector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 19:27   #7
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
Do Gooder
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hector View Post
Progress on those lines may have been even quicker if Irish cricket had been awarded full member status earlier and been able to keep players such as Ed Joyce and Eoin Morgan. Hopefully now they wont have to worry about any up and coming players being tempted to play for England.
To be fair, first class domestic cricket is fairly recent introduction to Ireland, and that was always the bellwether for getting Test status.

The other bonus is that unlike 5-10 years ago, the majority of players are Irish born or learned their cricket in Ireland. There is around about 60 first class players, Ireland can pick from now. And some of the youngsters are very impressive, particularly the bowlers - Peter Chase, Rory Andres, Tyrone Kane, and Joshua Little.
cabinboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 19:30   #8
Hector
International Cricketer
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southampton
Team(s): Deportivo Finance, Hampshire, Berkshire
Age: 38
Posts: 2,804
Quote:
Originally Posted by cabinboy View Post
To be fair, first class domestic cricket is fairly recent introduction to Ireland, and that was always the bellwether for getting Test status.

The other bonus is that unlike 5-10 years ago, the majority of players are Irish born or learned their cricket in Ireland. There is around about 60 first class players, Ireland can pick from now. And some of the youngsters are very impressive, particularly the bowlers - Peter Chase, Rory Andres, Tyrone Kane, and Joshua Little.
Saw a photo of Ed Joyce at Oak Hill from yesterday's play. Looks a glorious ground. Pondering whether i can get over for a weekend next year to catch some inter-pro's action.
__________________
www.yahooovercowcorner.wordpress.com


@YahoooverCC
Hector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 19:40   #9
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
Do Gooder
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hector View Post
Saw a photo of Ed Joyce at Oak Hill from yesterday's play. Looks a glorious ground. Pondering whether i can get over for a weekend next year to catch some inter-pro's action.
Leinster Lightning who play at Dublin, are the strongest team, though my team Northern Knights are currently top due to having played a game more than anyone else.

They also are getting decent crowds as well.

Hats off to the Irish Cricket Union who have really made this happen. I used to think their ambition was a bit OTT but it's all down to their foresight, planning, investment and commitment.
cabinboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 19:42   #10
Hector
International Cricketer
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southampton
Team(s): Deportivo Finance, Hampshire, Berkshire
Age: 38
Posts: 2,804
Quote:
Originally Posted by cabinboy View Post
Leinster Lightning who play at Dublin, are the strongest team, though my team Northern Knights are currently top due to having played a game more than anyone else.

They also are getting decent crowds as well.

Hats off to the Irish Cricket Union who have really made this happen. I used to think their ambition was a bit OTT but it's all down to their foresight, planning, investment and commitment.
That's good to hear.
__________________
www.yahooovercowcorner.wordpress.com


@YahoooverCC
Hector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd June 2017, 22:29   #11
sanskritsimon
Legendary
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Team(s): Arkholme Bees, Hackney Grasshoppers, Holy Cross Academicals
Posts: 9,907
Excellent news. I look forward to following their progress and in particular their tests against England and Wales.
sanskritsimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2017, 08:12   #12
Ali TT
Posting God
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 16,618
Quote:
Originally Posted by cabinboy View Post
Absolutely 100% wrong. It hasn't regressed, it's gone forward. Ireland has first class domestic cricket, it didn't have that five years ago. It's got a youth structure, it's developing the women's game, it's attracted long term advertisers.

In Dublin where the tests will take place, there has been a huge uptake of interest in the game. The grounds will only be empty if the ticket pricing is wrong.
I actually think Ireland will get good crowds. Not sure Dublin is in the desert though
__________________
WARNING
Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.
Ali TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2017, 09:30   #13
sharky
Posting God
 
sharky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sunny Sussex
Team(s): Sussex, England
Posts: 10,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ali TT View Post
I wonder how many cricketers in county cricket, Sheffield Shield, SA provincial cricket and the Plunkett shield will soon be claiming they have an Irish grandmother.
.
It would still probably be fewer imports than in the England team
__________________
She was like a candle in the wind...Unreliable
sharky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2017, 11:34   #14
DanielVettoriSpin
International Cricketer
 
DanielVettoriSpin's Avatar
DeviousVettoriSpin plots the downfall of another unfortunate
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wellington, NZ
Team(s): New Zealand, Essex & England
Posts: 2,508
Send a message via Yahoo to DanielVettoriSpin
I was recently in Cork, traditional republican hotbed and was surprised to see a game of cricket being played by County Cork. The attendance was about 100 I think. I'd tell you more, but as I turned to stop in and watch, they went off for bad light. I think I saw two deliveries.

Anyway, great news imo. I suspect the Afghans will be a decent test proposition to start with. Ireland less so for now.
__________________
Supporting
Essex County Cricket Club, Wellington, Peter Such and Iain O'Brien
DanielVettoriSpin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23rd June 2017, 19:49   #15
Ali TT
Posting God
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 16,618
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharky View Post
It would still probably be fewer imports than in the England team
True
__________________
WARNING
Reading the above post may cause bouts of nausea.
Ali TT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th June 2017, 21:01   #16
JRC67
International Material
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by sharky View Post
Both countries should be in a decent place to play one or two Tests against the teams touring England and Pakistan. I suspect Afghanistan are in a better position regarding sheer talent going forward but I doubt will get any proper home games. Overall I think it's a positive move, and I'm glad for Ed Joyce.
I suspect Afghanistan will end up playing a warm up test or 2 in Dubai. Can't see many teams going to Kabul for many years.
JRC67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2017, 07:50   #17
cabinboy
Posting God
 
cabinboy's Avatar
Do Gooder
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 13,090
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRC67 View Post
I suspect Afghanistan will end up playing a warm up test or 2 in Dubai. Can't see many teams going to Kabul for many years.
I think they're based out of Delhi, so I would expect any teams touring India to just add Afghanistan to the itinerary. They should do quite well out of such an arrangement.
cabinboy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2017, 12:42   #18
geoff_boycotts_grandmother
Posting God
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 27,075
Mixed views on this.

Good to see the game expanding but I'm concerned about the support available to these two new Full Members and for countries climbing the ladder behind them. What progress has been made in ensuring that these teams have the fixtures, the infrastructure, the financial support to become viable test sides?

I suspect it's mainly a ploy to force in a two tiered system and demote Zimbabwe and any other struggling sides (West Indies? Sri Lanka?) so India and England don't have to play them.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Michelle Fivefer
It was a poor innings by Bell with the bat.
geoff_boycotts_grandmother is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2017, 19:54   #19
billyguntheballs
County Pro
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 586
I applaud this but only if there are two tiers. In the current form it is just a head line grabbing pr stunt.

There is noway Afg or Irl will ever be competitive for the forseeable future against the likes of Eng, Aus, Pak, Ind and SA. Maybe they could have some solid games against Zimb?

I guess this will be a great way to top up on those averages.
__________________

I can accept failure...I can not accept not trying again.
billyguntheballs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26th June 2017, 20:01   #20
Chin Music
Administrator
 
Chin Music's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: la sala de opinion equivocada
Team(s): ****
Posts: 23,761
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff_boycotts_grandmother View Post
Mixed views on this.

Good to see the game expanding but I'm concerned about the support available to these two new Full Members and for countries climbing the ladder behind them. What progress has been made in ensuring that these teams have the fixtures, the infrastructure, the financial support to become viable test sides?

I suspect it's mainly a ploy to force in a two tiered system and demote Zimbabwe and any other struggling sides (West Indies? Sri Lanka?) so India and England don't have to play them.
https://beingoutsidecricket.com/2017...st-by-simon-h/

Don't know if you've read the latest article on Being Outside Cricket but the answer appears to be not.

Would love to go to a test match in Dublin and make a few days of it but watching a procession wouldn't be a lot of fun.
__________________
Quote:
"One of the greatest problems of our time is that many are schooled but few are educated" - Thomas More
Chin Music is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:52.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Cricket247.org