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Old 15th July 2017, 18:01   #141
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3-2 which is effectively 3-3 with Ballance there.
Not so, as it turned out and Ballance was one of not many* batsmen who acquitted himself OK today. He got a good delivery and was a tad unfortunate in the manner of his dismissal.

Broad's comedy cameo was a short one today and not as fruitful as the one at Lords. The funniest part of it was his walking off the field and shaking his head at the decision all the way to the boundary. Ali fell victim to the three card trick of short, short, full, belying the reputation he seems to be getting as a test class batsman.

I thought Holding made a good point, backed up by video of his bowling at the late, great Brian Close. It illustrated perfectly the art of a batsman never taking his eyes off a short pitched delivery aimed at the head. Helmets, perhaps, have lulled batsmen into a false sense of security.

*The only others being Root and Bairstow.
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Now, now, he's played come-from-behind rearguard counterattacking centuries before...

Difficult to see how SA don't level the series from here. Surviving until the end of the day looks bad enough
All bar Root played shockers.

How to lose a test in a session.
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Old 15th July 2017, 18:03   #143
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As long as he doesn't play any brainless shots and fall into a trap marked elephant trap. ...
If that was posted before Ali fell for it, it was an excellent prediction.
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Old 15th July 2017, 18:26   #144
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So many modern batsmen look lost if the ball moves a tad bit. It was hardly looping today. Pathetic from England.
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Old 15th July 2017, 19:08   #145
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Means we'll have a tight and dramatic Test series though!
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Precisely.
The match being fixed in order to keep attendances up for the rest of the series is surely a no-brainer if the people in charge have any business sense at all, and is also probably the most generous explanation for England's batting today (other options being that they have a collective IQ of 12, and that they are under instructions to play an attractive brand of cricket, which in a way is a combination of the other two options).
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Old 15th July 2017, 19:19   #146
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SA have bowled well today in places, as well...
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Old 15th July 2017, 19:51   #147
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Yet again there are always two batsmen out there who are on the verge of being dropped. You can't build consistent innings with that.
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Old 15th July 2017, 20:07   #148
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The match being fixed in order to keep attendances up for the rest of the series is surely a no-brainer if the people in charge have any business sense at all, and is also probably the most generous explanation for England's batting today (other options being that they have a collective IQ of 12, and that they are under instructions to play an attractive brand of cricket, which in a way is a combination of the other two options).
Alternatively, maybe, just maybe, England aren't quite on par with 80s WI/90s Aus and are going to lose the odd Test to teams roughly of the same ability regardless of any alleged fixing (you obviously have more knowledge on this one so I'll leave you to elaborate on the evidence that the game is fixed).
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Old 15th July 2017, 20:09   #149
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SA have bowled well today in places, as well...
Perish the thought the SA attack could destroy a batting line-up containing Jennings, Ballance etc. in super helpful conditions without support from the opposition (illicit or not).
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What an utter shower of sh!te that was. I've got a ticket for tomorrow and, to be honest, I'm inclined to cut my losses and save petrol money. Even a magnificent bowling performance will end in defeat.
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What an utter shower of sh!te that was. I've got a ticket for tomorrow and, to be honest, I'm inclined to cut my losses and save petrol money. Even a magnificent bowling performance will end in defeat.
When you play bits n pieces players you get bits of series where it all falls to pieces..
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Old 15th July 2017, 22:23   #152
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Thought Ballance looked very scratchy tbh, not much came out of the middle.
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Old 16th July 2017, 07:45   #153
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Thought Ballance looked very scratchy tbh, not much came out of the middle.
He battled hard but looked quite troubled for much of his innings. The problem is there isn't an awful lot of quality in the wings. It's more a case of shuffling deck chairs on a sinking titanic. I wouldn't have picked him but now they have I think they need to give him the series. I think our best chance for the series is a couple of spinning tracks because with Rabada to come back they've probably got a seam attack to out gun England.
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Old 16th July 2017, 10:47   #154
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When you play bits n pieces players you get bits of series where it all falls to pieces..
The top 3 aren't bits and pieces players
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The top 3 aren't bits and pieces players
5 years ago Bell and Collingwood were our weaker batsmen but if you could time travel both to today they would walk in to this team. The top 5 has been the problem for 3 or 4 years and until we solve it we will continue to struggle at times.
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5 years ago Bell and Collingwood were our weaker batsmen but if you could time travel both to today they would walk in to this team. The top 5 has been the problem for 3 or 4 years and until we solve it we will continue to struggle at times.
We all know the tried and tested method for England to react to a batting collapse - drop a bowler.

Dawson will be out for the third test. Is Woakes fit yet ?
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When you play bits n pieces players you get bits of series where it all falls to pieces..
Even if they had picked a specialist batsman ahead of a "good honest county pro" (Dawson) they'd still be staring down the barrel. Wood and Stokes didn't provide sufficient back up to Broad and Anderson and five of the top seven were pathetic.
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I've been trying to manufacture a scenario in my head where England can still win this match but I'm struggling. Instead I'll have to settle for reasons to be cheerful.

1. I'm at the best ground in the country.
2. It's dry but overcast.
3. Broad and Anderson love bowling here.
4. I'll get to see QDK bat.
5. I've just seen Superstar Samit Patel. What an honour.
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Old 16th July 2017, 11:37   #159
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When you play bits n pieces players you get bits of series where it all falls to pieces..
South Africa's bits and pieces players did rather well.
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Jock obviously wants Ben Stokes dropped.
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