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Old 25th July 2017, 00:48   #81
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This game, as my Inbox keeps reminding me, is the 100th Test Match to be played at Kennington Oval. It was the venue of the first ever Test in England, against Australia in 1880, when it was also the established location for the FA Cup Final. Lord's became a Test venue a few years later but, because it often hosts two matches per year, it reached its own century back in 2000. Imagine if this weeks game turns out to be as exciting as the Lord's 100th:http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/8...Scotland-2000/

My first visit to an Oval Test was the opening day of Number 63, when England managed to scrape a draw against Lloyd's West Indians. Although I and many others moan on about the tardiness of modern over rates, I can guarantee that, weather permitting, we'll see more bowled on Thursday than in 1980 (the Windies' laconic attitude to over rates, and their supporters' antics behind the bowler's arm combined to keep the first day's quota to below 80).

No such crowd interventions are tolerated today, and the ground looks very different. I'll be finding out whether the refurbished Peter May Stand makes for a more civilised experience than the last Oval Tests I attended, when the space under the stands was dangerously clogged. If England bat first, I'll hope for runs from anybody, but especially Tom Westley in his first Test, and will keenly anticipate Rabada's return. If South Africa take initial use of the crease, I'll be happy for a regular falling of wickets, but wouldn't be disappointed to see scores from Amla and de Kock.

Happy Century, you wonderful old oasis of green stuck in the middle of dirty South London. To think, it'll be the 98th Test Match there since English Cricket officially died on its turf all those years ago.
That England Windies test was crazy. How many wickets fell on the second day? 22 wasn't it? One each from the first and fourth innings and all twenty in between!
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Old 25th July 2017, 09:05   #82
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That England Windies test was crazy. How many wickets fell on the second day? 22 wasn't it? One each from the first and fourth innings and all twenty in between!
Not quite: Atherton and Ramprakash were both 0* when bad light stopped play. Think it's still the only time all four innings took place on one day.

I see that cricinfo has sabotaged the day by day element of their scorecards, along with all sorts of other stuff in the "upgrade".
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Old 25th July 2017, 09:09   #83
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Not quite: Atherton and Ramprakash were both 0* when bad light stopped play. Think it's still the only time all four innings took place on one day.

I see that cricinfo has sabotaged the day by day element of their scorecards, along with all sorts of other stuff in the "upgrade".
I was at Lord's on that very day. Bat**** crazy but a hugely entertaining day out.

I'm going/due to go on Friday and Sunday for this test coming up. I hope that there is a good amount of cricket left for the 4th day this time out.
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Old 25th July 2017, 12:22   #84
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Not quite: Atherton and Ramprakash were both 0* when bad light stopped play. Think it's still the only time all four innings took place on one day.

I see that cricinfo has sabotaged the day by day element of their scorecards, along with all sorts of other stuff in the "upgrade".
Thought it was the first day where wickets fell from all four innings but might be wrong. It was 17 years ago. I remember Hoggy sat nervously on the balcony with his helmet on throughout that nervy 9th wicket stand as Cork saw us home. Forgotten about Ramps opening though, Jesus. What a godsend Tres was (from next test at OT?). Current opening debacle somewhat worse.
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I was at Lord's on that very day. Bat**** crazy but a hugely entertaining day out.

I'm going/due to go on Friday and Sunday for this test coming up. I hope that there is a good amount of cricket left for the 4th day this time out.
Well, the Net Office is doing its usual - for the past week, it's been predicting Thursday to be dry with occasional sunshine, now it's found some rain down the back of a filing cabinet. So, that would take some time out of the game to assist the later attendees. Often, though, the original forecast turns out to be more accurate than the later one....on Saturday morning, I feared I'd be fortunate to see any more than half a day's play at the Womens Final, but there wasn't a single interruption.
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Thought it was the first day where wickets fell from all four innings but might be wrong. It was 17 years ago. I remember Hoggy sat nervously on the balcony with his helmet on throughout that nervy 9th wicket stand as Cork saw us home. Forgotten about Ramps opening though, Jesus. What a godsend Tres was (from next test at OT?). Current opening debacle somewhat worse.
No, the second day, otherwise that would've been 31 wickets on day one in a maximum of 84 overs!
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A debutant, Malan and Stokes are all batting above Ali, who has a superior test record to all of them. Great thinking and a brave new world!
Yes, "the debutant" (I assume you mean Westley) and Malan both average 0 at test level - absolutely rubbish!
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Well, the Net Office is doing its usual - for the past week, it's been predicting Thursday to be dry with occasional sunshine
They'd hardly be predicting it to be gross.
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Yes, "the debutant" (I assume you mean Westley) and Malan both average 0 at test level - absolutely rubbish!
Just need to get to 1* and will average infinitely many though, until out.
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Yes, "the debutant" (I assume you mean Westley) and Malan both average 0 at test level - absolutely rubbish!
If you engaged a little common sense then you'd understand what I mean.
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If you engaged a little common sense then you'd understand what I mean.
I understand. You mean that you think Root should bat at no. 3.
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I understand. You mean that you think Root should bat at no. 3.
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Thanks. All the same I think it is probably worth saying it again a few dozen times.
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So how are we going to get Amla out? Broad has him the most times (8/29). After getting out to a short ball by Broad he has just ducked them since.

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So how are we going to get Amla out? Broad has him the most times (8/29). After getting out to a short ball by Broad he has just ducked them since.

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So how are we going to get Amla out? Broad has him the most times (8/29). After getting out to a short ball by Broad he has just ducked them since.

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We could start by not dropping catches off him.
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Hi all. Well wasn't that second test crap. Just like under cook but at least we knew how to use reviews in those days!

There was a point of popping in. I wasn't sure where to post this so thought here is as good place as any because I assume people will read it. Be sure to listen to kumar sangakarra in his interview on at home with Colin Murray podcast. What a classy man he is.

Come on England.
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So how are we going to get Amla out? Broad has him the most times (8/29). After getting out to a short ball by Broad he has just ducked them since.

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Until this series he'd been in indifferent form. Trust him to find it for the England series.
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No, the second day, otherwise that would've been 31 wickets on day one in a maximum of 84 overs!
I meant the first day in history of test cricket, already referred to it as the second day of the matxh
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So how are we going to get Amla out? Broad has him the most times (8/29). After getting out to a short ball by Broad he has just ducked them since.

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Get a spinner in, he has been trapped on his legs twice now in a relatively short period of time. First by Wasim and then I think it was Ali in the test. He hates the ball skidding through.

Then again, Amla bats up front so is it ok to bring a spinner on that early?
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