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Old 8th August 2017, 12:16   #3661
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Old 8th August 2017, 12:57   #3662
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Turns out 5fers do win matches though. Your welcome.

Biggest danger to our ranking points vs Windies could be a couple of wash outs.
My welcome what?

Did Ali's five wicket hauls this series win matches? That's good to hear. It's just that the one in Bangladesh didn't.

Should beat WI unless there's a lot of rain.

Lot of good spinning all rounders around at the moment.
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Old 15th August 2017, 10:29   #3663
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Batsmen

2 (-) - Root
6 (+1) - Bairstow
12 (-) - Cook
20 (+1) - Ali
24 (+1) - Stokes
64 (-1) - Ballance
74 (-1) - Buttler
75 (+1) - Hameed
83 (-) - Woakes
85 (-1) - Jennings
92 (-1) - Westley
96 (-) - Hales

Bowlers

2 (-) - Anderson
7 (-) - Broad
18 (-) - Ali
22 (-1) - Stokes
28 (-) - Woakes
32 (-) - Finn
44 (-) - Roland-Jones
53 (-) - Rashid
72 (-2) - Wood
88 (-1) - Dawson
96 (-2) - Root

Top 10 at 14 August 2017 (last done 7 Aug 2017)

Batsmen

1 (-) Smith
2 (-) Root
3 (+1) Williamson
4 (-1) Pujara
5 (-) Kohli
6 (+1) Bairstow
7 (+1) Azhar Ali
8 (+1) Amla
9 (+2) Rahul
10 (-4) Rahane

Bowlers

1 (-) Jadeja
2 (-) Anderson
3 (-) Ashwin
4 (-) Hazlewood
5 (-) Herath
6 (-) Rabada
7 (-) Broad
8 (-) Steyn
9 (-) Philander
10 (-) Wagner

All Rounders at 14 August 2017 (last done 7 Aug 2017)

1 (+1) 431 Al Hasan
2 (-1) 430 Jadeja
3 (-) 422 Ashwin
4 (-) 409 Ali
5 (-) 360 Stokes
6 (-) 332 Philander
7 (-) 318 Starc
8 (-) 217 Holder
9 NEW 207 Broad
10 (-) 203 Herath

Outside the 100 (last done 7 Aug)
Batting
107 (-1) - Compton
112 (-1) - Broad
118 (-) - Rashid
121 (-) - Vince
141 (-) - Duckett
142 (-) - Roland-Jones
154 (-) - Dawson
163 (-) - Anderson
169 (-) - Malan
170 (-) - Finn
179=(-1) - Ansari
179=(-1) - Ball
209 (-) - Batty

Bowling
104 (-1) - Ansari
105 (-1) - Batty
119 (-) - Ball
135 (-) - Cook
136=(-) - Vince
136=(-) - Ballance
136=(-) - Hales
136=(-) - Jennings
136=(-) - Malan
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Old 15th August 2017, 20:29   #3664
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My welcome what?

Did Ali's five wicket hauls this series win matches? That's good to hear. It's just that the one in Bangladesh didn't.

Should beat WI unless there's a lot of rain.

Lot of good spinning all rounders around at the moment.
There are a lot of finger spinners high up in the bowling rankings at the moment, many of whom are decent batsmen. Most of them have a lot of wrist rotation compared to traditional finger spinners, they're somewhere between wrist and finger spinners.
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Old 17th August 2017, 15:19   #3665
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There are a lot of finger spinners high up in the bowling rankings at the moment, many of whom are decent batsmen. Most of them have a lot of wrist rotation compared to traditional finger spinners, they're somewhere between wrist and finger spinners.
Fist spinners, perhaps.
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Old 18th August 2017, 08:47   #3666
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Fist spinners, perhaps.
Good description they all seem to grip the ball very tight. Probably part of the reason for the increase in spinners being picked up for throwing.
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Old 21st August 2017, 01:34   #3667
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1st Test England v West Indies

Batsmen

2 (-) - Root
6 (+6) - Cook
12 (-6) - Bairstow
23 (-3) - Ali
25 (-1) - Stokes
66 (-2) - Ballance
73 (+1) - Buttler
75 (-) - Hameed
84 (-1) - Woakes
87 (-2) - Jennings
97 (-1) - Hales

Bowlers

2 (-) - Anderson
7 (-) - Broad
18 (-) - Ali
22 (-) - Stokes
29 (-1) - Woakes
34 (-2) - Finn
42 (+2) - Roland-Jones
54 (-1) - Rashid
72 (-) - Wood
89 (-1) - Dawson
97 (-1) - Root

Top 10 at 19 August 2017 (last done 14 Aug 2017)

Batsmen

1 (-) Smith
2 (-) Root
3 (-) Williamson
4 (-) Pujara
5 (-) Kohli
6 (+6) Cook
7 (-) Azhar Ali
8 (-) Amla
9 (-) Rahul
10 (-) Rahane

Bowlers

1 (-) Jadeja
2 (-) Anderson
3 (-) Ashwin
4 (-) Hazlewood
5 (-) Herath
6 (-) Rabada
7 (-) Broad
8 (-) Steyn
9 (-) Philander
10 (-) Wagner

All Rounders at 19 August 2017 (last done 14 Aug 2017)

1 (-) 431 Al Hasan
2 (-) 430 Jadeja
3 (-) 422 Ashwin
4 (-) 403 Ali
5 (-) 348 Stokes
6 (-) 332 Philander
7 (-) 318 Starc
8 (+1) 209 Broad
9 (+1) 203 Herath
10 (-2) 197 Holder

Outside the 100 (last done 14 Aug)
Batting
105 (-13) - Westley
109 (-2) - Compton
112 (-) - Broad
118 (-) - Rashid
121 (-) - Vince
136 (+33) - Malan
143 (-2) - Duckett
147 (-5) - Roland-Jones
157 (-3) - Dawson
166 (-3) - Anderson
173 (-3) - Finn
181=(-2) - Ansari
181=(-2) - Ball
212 (-3) - Batty

Bowling
105 (-1) - Ansari
106 (-1) - Batty
120 (-1) - Ball
136 (-1) - Cook
137=(-1) - Vince
137=(-1) - Ballance
137=(-1) - Hales
137=(-1) - Jennings
137=(-1) - Malan
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Stokes -15/-6
Bairstow -16
Ali -19/+8
Westley -35

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2nd Test England v West Indies
1st Test Bangladesh v Australia

Batsmen

2 (-) - Root
8 (-2) - Cook
13 (-1) - Bairstow
23 (+2) - Stokes
25 (-2) - Ali
66 (-) - Ballance
74 (+10) - Woakes
77 (-4) - Buttler
80 (-5) - Hameed
88 (-1) - Jennings
99 (-2) - Hales

Bowlers

2 (-) - Anderson
9 (-2) - Broad
20 (-2) - Ali
23 (-1) - Stokes
31 (-2) - Woakes
35 (-1) - Finn
42 (-) - Roland-Jones
54 (-) - Rashid
73 (-1) - Wood
90 (-1) - Dawson
98 (-1) - Root

Top 10 at 30 August 2017 (last done 19 Aug 2017)

Batsmen

1 (-) Smith
2 (-) Root
3 (-) Williamson
4 (-) Pujara
5 (-) Kohli
6 (+5) Warner
7 (-) Azhar Ali
8 (-2) Cook
9 (-1) Amla
10 (-1) Rahul

Bowlers

1 (-) Jadeja
2 (-) Anderson
3 (-) Ashwin
4 (+1) Herath
5 (-1) Hazlewood
6 (-) Rabada
7 (+1) Steyn
8 (+1) Philander
9 (-2) Broad
10 (-) Wagner

All Rounders at 30 August 2017 (last done 19 Aug 2017)

1 (-) 489 Al Hasan
2 (-) 430 Jadeja
3 (-) 422 Ashwin
4 (-) 392 Ali
5 (-) 360 Stokes
6 (-) 332 Philander
7 (-) 312 Starc
8 (+2) 211 Holder
9 (-) 203 Herath
10 (-2) 196 Broad


Outside the 100 (last done 19 Aug)
Batting
109 (-) - Compton
112 (-) - Broad
116 (-11) - Westley
120=(+16) - Malan
120=(-2) - Rashid
124 (-3) - Vince
145 (-2) - Duckett
149 (-) - Stoneman
150 (-3) - Roland-Jones
160 (-3) - Dawson
169 (-3) - Anderson
177 (-4) - Finn
184=(-3) - Ansari
184=(-3) - Ball
214 (-2) - Batty

Bowling
107 (-2) - Ansari
108 (-2) - Batty
122 (-2) - Ball
138 (-2) - Cook
139=(-2) - Vince
139=(-2) - Ballance
139=(-2) - Hales
139=(-2) - Jennings
139=(-2) - Malan
139=NEW - Westley

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Old 31st August 2017, 10:50   #3670
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Woakes -43
Westley -57

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Old 31st August 2017, 10:51   #3671
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Shakib's current all round rating is exceptionally good, on the back of a very good first innings knock and a ten wicket match in the first test against the Aussies.
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Shakib's current all round rating is exceptionally good, on the back of a very good first innings knock and a ten wicket match in the first test against the Aussies.
Think he might pass the 500 mark soon. Can't remember anyone reaching 500 in the all-rounder rankings.
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Think he might pass the 500 mark soon. Can't remember anyone reaching 500 in the all-rounder rankings.
I can find all time high ratings for batting and bowling but not all rounders. Botham must have been over that at the point he was over 900 in bowling though.
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Batsmen

4 (-) - Root
17 (-) - Hales
18 (-) - Morgan
19 (-) - Buttler
21 (-) - Stokes
37 (-1) - Roy
74 (-1) - Ali
88 (-) - Bairstow

Bowlers

11 (-2) - Woakes
13 (-2) - Plunkett
16 (-3) - Rashid
38 (-1) - Finn
44 (-3) - Wood
47 (-3) - Ali
55 (-2) - Ball
58 (+1) - Willey
68 (-2) - Stokes
81 (-3) - Jordan

Top 10 at 3 September 2017 (last done 18 Jun 2017)

Batsmen

1 (-) Kohli
2 (-) Warner
3 (-) de Villiers
4 (-) Root
5 (-) Babar Azam
6 (-) Williamson
7 (-) de Kock
8 (-) du Plessis
9 (+1) Sharma
10=(+5) Dhoni
10=(-1) Guptill

Bowlers

1 (-) Hazelwood
2 (-) Tahir
3 (-) Starc
4 (+20) Bumrah
5 (-1) Rabada
6 (-) Boult
7 (-) Hasan Ali
8 (-3) Narine
9 (-1) Rashid Khan
10 (+6) A Patel

Top 10 All rounders at 3 September 2017 - (last done 18 Jun 2017)

1 (-) Al Hasan 353
2 (-) Hafeez 339
3 (-) Nabi 329
4 (-) Mathews 304
5 (-) Faulkner 299
6 (-) Stokes 278
7 (-) Marsh 273
8 (-) Holder 268
9 (-) Woakes 251
10 NEW Raza 247

Outside the top 100 (last done 18 Jun)
Batting
107 (-3) - Woakes
126 (-2) - Rashid
133 (-2) - Billings
150 (-) - Plunkett
183 (-3) - Willey
191 (-4) Duckett
236 (-7) - Vince
239 (-6) - Roland-Jones
240 (-5) - Wood
248 (-6) - Jordan
251 (-6) - Ball
363 (-16) - Dawson

Bowling
152 (-10) - Root
251 (-11)- Roland-Jones
262 (-13) - Dawson
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2nd Test Bangladesh v Australia

Batsmen

2 (-) - Root
8 (-) - Cook
13 (-) - Bairstow
24 (-1) - Stokes
26 (-1) - Ali
66 (-) - Ballance
76 (-2) - Woakes
78 (-1) - Buttler
81 (-1) - Hameed
90 (-2) - Jennings
100 (-1) - Hales

Bowlers

2 (-) - Anderson
10 (-1) - Broad
20 (-) - Ali
23 (-) - Stokes
31 (-) - Woakes
35 (-) - Finn
42 (-) - Roland-Jones
55 (-1) - Rashid
73 (-) - Wood
90 (-) - Dawson
98 (-) - Root

Top 10 at 7 September 2017 (last done 30 Aug 2017)

Batsmen

1 (-) Smith
2 (-) Root
3 (-) Williamson
4 (-) Pujara
5 (+1) Warner
6 (-1) Kohli
7 (-) Azhar Ali
8 (-) Cook
9 (-) Amla
10 (-) Rahul

Bowlers

1 (-) Jadeja
2 (-) Anderson
3 (-) Ashwin
4 (-) Herath
5 (-) Hazlewood
6 (-) Rabada
7 (-) Steyn
8 (+9) Lyon
9 (-1) Philander
10 (-1) Broad

All Rounders at 7 September 2017 (last done 30 Aug 2017)

1 (-) 456 Al Hasan
2 (-) 430 Jadeja
3 (-) 422 Ashwin
4 (-) 392 Ali
5 (-) 360 Stokes
6 (-) 332 Philander
7 (-) 306 Starc
8 (-) 211 Holder
9 (-) 203 Herath
10 (-) 196 Broad


Outside the 100 (last done 30 Aug)
Batting
108 (+1) - Compton
112 (-) - Broad
116 (-) - Westley
120=(-) - Malan
120=(-) - Rashid
124 (-) - Vince
145 (-) - Duckett
149 (-) - Stoneman
150 (-) - Roland-Jones
160 (-) - Dawson
168 (+1) - Anderson
178 (-1) - Finn
184=(-) - Ansari
184=(-) - Ball
213 (+1) - Batty

Bowling
107 (-) - Ansari
108 (-) - Batty
122 (-) - Ball
138 (-) - Cook
139=(-) - Vince
139=(-) - Ballance
139=(-) - Hales
139=(-) - Jennings
139=(-) - Malan
139=(-) - Westley
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Rahul is ranked 10th in the world? He's injured half the time...
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3rd Test England v West Indies

Batsmen

2 (-) - Root
11 (-3) - Cook
13 (-) - Bairstow
20 (+4) - Stokes
26 (-) - Ali
66 (-) - Ballance
77 (-1) - Woakes
80 (-2) - Buttler
82 (-1) - Hameed
93 (-3) - Jennings
100 (-1) - Hales

Bowlers

1 (+1) - Anderson
11 (-1) - Broad
19 (+1) - Ali
21 (+2) - Stokes
31 (-) - Woakes
36 (-1) - Finn
41 (+1) - Roland-Jones
55 (-) - Rashid
74 (-1) - Wood
91 (-1) - Dawson
98 (-) - Root

Top 10 at 9 September 2017 (last done 7 Sep 2017)

Batsmen

1 (-) Smith
2 (-) Root
3 (-) Williamson
4 (-) Pujara
5 (-) Warner
6 (-) Kohli
7 (-) Azhar Ali
8 (+1) Amla
9 (+1) Rahul
10 (+1) Rahane

Bowlers

1 (+1) Anderson
2 (-1) Jadeja
3 (-) Ashwin
4 (-) Herath
5 (-) Hazlewood
6 (-) Rabada
7 (-) Steyn
8 (-) Lyon
9 (-) Philander
10 (+1) Wagner

All Rounders at 9 September 2017 (last done 7 Sep 2017)

1 (-) 456 Al Hasan
2 (-) 430 Jadeja
3 (-) 422 Ashwin
4 (+1) 396 Stokes
5 (-1) 378 Ali
6 (-) 332 Philander
7 (-) 306 Starc
8 (-) 226 Holder
9 (+1) 207 Broad
10 (-1) 203 Herath


Outside the 100 (last done 7 Sep)
Batting
105 (+11) - Westley
110 (-2) - Compton
113 (-1) - Broad
117 (+3) - Malan
121 (-1) - Rashid
127 (-3) - Vince
129 (+20) - Stoneman
148 (-3) - Duckett
149 (+1) - Roland-Jones
160 (-) - Dawson
165 (+3) - Anderson
177 (+1) - Finn
185=(-1) - Ansari
185=(-1) - Ball
213 (-) - Batty

Bowling
107 (-) - Ansari
108 (-) - Batty
122 (-) - Ball
138 (-) - Cook
139=(-) - Vince
139=(-) - Ballance
139=(-) - Hales
139=(-) - Jennings
139=(-) - Malan
139=(-) - Westley
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Westley +53
Stoneman +45
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Stokes +21/+36
Malan +16
Roland-Jones +13
Bairstow -8
Broad -10
Root -13
Ali -16/-6
Cook -27

Powell +62
S Hope +61
Roach +34
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Well done Anderson, up to #1.

Cook and Broad lost points so we now have just one batsman and one bowler in the relevant top tens. Heaven knows where anyone will be after the Ashes.
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