Ambrose v Mustard

Aidan11 · 13th February 2008, 11:13

Yes its another wicket keeping thread but Read v Jones has had its day. Its time they moved over and let this debate take over.

**Chin Music** · 13th February 2008, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Aidan11

Yes its another wicket keeping thread but Read v Jones has had its day. Its time they moved over and let this debate take over.

We'll only know that its a debate when slogger shows up otherwise such an attempt is futile but the thought has its merits, nice one Aidan! Anyway such has been the effervesence that Mustard has brought to the top of the order in ODIs I will motion that his counter attacking capabilities should make him a cert to take the test spot.

sanskritsimon · 13th February 2008, 11:26

I heard that Mustard spilled a catch yesterday. In the light of Prior's droppings (to the ground and so from the squad) perhaps if Mustard is going to take the test spot he should do so on the basis of good keeping rather than good batting.

Fatslogger · 13th February 2008, 12:45

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Originally Posted by Chin Music

We'll only know that its a debate when slogger shows up otherwise such an attempt is futile but the thought has its merits, nice one Aidan! Anyway such has been the effervesence that Mustard has brought to the top of the order in ODIs I will motion that his counter attacking capabilities should make him a cert to take the test spot.

Hello. I'm in full agreement on Mustard, as you well know. His excellent FC and ODI records make him every thinking man's choice ahead of the far inferior Ambrose.

**Chin Music** · 13th February 2008, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Fatslogger

Hello. I'm in full agreement on Mustard, as you well know. His excellent FC and ODI records make him every thinking man's choice ahead of the far inferior Ambrose.

For once we are in total concurrence. Halleluljah!

Oh sod that last word I'm not even religious.

square leg umpire · 13th February 2008, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Fatslogger

Hello. I'm in full agreement on Mustard, as you well know. His excellent FC and ODI records make him every thinking man's choice ahead of the far inferior Ambrose.

excellent FC record? Isn't his FC average about 20? In tests he would be a walking wicket. yesterday his daft dismissal opened the door to NZ. he could have hit it over the fielder or on the ground. Instead catching practice.

**Rey** · 13th February 2008, 19:19

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Originally Posted by square leg umpire

excellent FC record? Isn't his FC average about 20? In tests he would be a walking wicket.

You've got lost in the maze of irony in FS' post I'm afraid. Not the first time that's happened

otto nothling · 13th February 2008, 21:05

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Originally Posted by °Rey de España°

You've got lost in the maze of irony in FS' post I'm afraid. Not the first time that's happened

square leg umpire · 13th February 2008, 22:00

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Originally Posted by °Rey de España°

You've got lost in the maze of irony in FS' post I'm afraid. Not the first time that's happened

I didn't know these boards did irony. I wasn't prepared.

Aidan11 · 13th February 2008, 11:45

Apart from that one dropped catch he hasn't done too bad so far

GloriousGloucesters · 13th February 2008, 11:56

Mustard deserves a run in the one-day side, Ambrose in the Tests. Simple!

Kim · 13th February 2008, 12:04

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Originally Posted by GloriousGloucesters

Mustard deserves a run in the one-day side, Ambrose in the Tests. Simple!

You dont think Ambrose's list A average of 70 last year - the best from an English qualified player apart from some bloke who played two games - should earn him a one day shot? Not neccessarily in place of Mustard. If Tim wasnt a keeper there would have been a clamour for his inclusion based on last year. Well maybe.

Otherwise he's going to making his test debut completely cold.

Archimandrite Herring · 13th February 2008, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Kim

You dont think Ambrose's list A average of 70 last year - the best from an English qualified player apart from some bloke who played two games - should earn him a one day shot? Not neccessarily in place of Mustard. If Tim wasnt a keeper there would have been a clamour for his inclusion based on last year. Well maybe.

Otherwise he's going to making his test debut completely cold.

Here's the List A averages.
Do you mean Davey Jacobs? He's not English qualified- he's a saffer.

(I notice David Sales just behind on 68.63)

Kim · 13th February 2008, 12:32

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Originally Posted by Archimandrite Herring

Here's the List A averages.
Do you mean Davey Jacobs? He's not English qualified- he's a saffer.

(I notice David Sales just behind on 68.63)

Even better! When you look at Tim's strike rate as well, it is odd that there have been few, if any, calls for him to get a one day chance.

Baron von Death · 13th February 2008, 13:30

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Originally Posted by Kim

You dont think Ambrose's list A average of 70 last year - the best from an English qualified player apart from some bloke who played two games - should earn him a one day shot? Not neccessarily in place of Mustard. If Tim wasnt a keeper there would have been a clamour for his inclusion based on last year. Well maybe.

Otherwise he's going to making his test debut completely cold.

So he wins the best 'flag of convenience cricketer' playing in England award then?

cabinboy · 13th February 2008, 12:25

I just can't get anyway animated by either choice.

**Rey** · 13th February 2008, 12:45

I'd hope he's being considered to come in at 7 for Bopara, despite the echoes of the two keepers in India 2006. Wright's debut in that position probably puts him ahead of Ambrose, but I'd prefer either to Dimi when our batting appears so feeble.

Kim · 13th February 2008, 12:51

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Originally Posted by °Rey de España°

I'd hope he's being considered to come in at 7 for Bopara, despite the echoes of the two keepers in India 2006. Wright's debut in that position probably puts him ahead of Ambrose, but I'd prefer either to Dimi when our batting appears so feeble.

I'd agree with all that. Maybe if we lose the series quickly he'll get a game.
I do think asking him to possibly make a test debut after not palying for so long is tough. He might fail and come back to Warwicks which I'd, of course, hate. Not.

Psyduck · 13th February 2008, 19:58

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Originally Posted by Kim

...he's going to making his test debut completely cold.

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Originally Posted by Kim

I do think asking him to possibly make a test debut after not palying for so long is tough.

I'm not for one minute suggesting it's suitable preparation for a test series but there is a two day and and three day game versus Otago prior to the first test, so he'll probably get at least two goes with the bat. That said I'd be inclined to drop Mustard if he fails again at Auckland to get him into the fold.

'ampshire · 13th February 2008, 14:00

Still think of Prior was treated pretty harshly. But out of Ambrose and Mustard it's a bit of a no-brainer really, Ambrose should be ahead of him in both forms of the game...

I'm still yet to work out how Mustard is even in the test squad. He would probably be my tenth choice keeper...

13th February 2008, 11:13	#1
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 40,377	Ambrose v Mustard Yes its another wicket keeping thread but Read v Jones has had its day. Its time they moved over and let this debate take over.

13th February 2008, 11:56	#11
GloriousGloucesters World Class Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Chippenham, Wiltshire Team(s): Gloucestershire CCC, Swindon Town FC Age: 38 Posts: 6,592	Mustard deserves a run in the one-day side, Ambrose in the Tests. Simple! __________________ "You want the moon on a stick"

13th February 2008, 12:45	#17
Rey Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Castleford Team(s): Yorkshire Posts: 14,317	I'd hope he's being considered to come in at 7 for Bopara, despite the echoes of the two keepers in India 2006. Wright's debut in that position probably puts him ahead of Ambrose, but I'd prefer either to Dimi when our batting appears so feeble. __________________ "He has sat on the fence so long that the iron has entered his soul."

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13th February 2008, 11:26	#3
sanskritsimon Posting God Join Date: Mar 2007 Team(s): Arkholme Bees, Hackney Grasshoppers, Holy Cross Academicals Posts: 10,983	I heard that Mustard spilled a catch yesterday. In the light of Prior's droppings (to the ground and so from the squad) perhaps if Mustard is going to take the test spot he should do so on the basis of good keeping rather than good batting.

13th February 2008, 11:45	#10
Aidan11 Harmisonesque Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Somewhere cold and wet Posts: 40,377	Apart from that one dropped catch he hasn't done too bad so far

13th February 2008, 12:25	#16
cabinboy Posting God Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,820	I just can't get anyway animated by either choice.

13th February 2008, 14:00	#20
'ampshire Established International Legend. FACT. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Maidenhead/Sheffield Team(s): Hampshire, Southampton FC and England Age: 30 Posts: 4,565	Still think of Prior was treated pretty harshly. But out of Ambrose and Mustard it's a bit of a no-brainer really, Ambrose should be ahead of him in both forms of the game... I'm still yet to work out how Mustard is even in the test squad. He would probably be my tenth choice keeper...