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Old 5th December 2007, 13:24   #201
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Will be interesting to see how Clarke goes as captain and Noffke fares given his recent purple patch.
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Old 19th December 2007, 23:12   #202
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'Australia skipper Ricky Ponting says left-armer Mitchell Johnson is ahead of Shaun Tait in the pecking order for a place in the Test side'.

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Old 20th December 2007, 10:49   #203
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'Australia skipper Ricky Ponting says left-armer Mitchell Johnson is ahead of Shaun Tait in the pecking order for a place in the Test side'.

And he's also endorsed Hogg.
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Old 20th December 2007, 11:05   #204
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'Australia skipper Ricky Ponting says left-armer Mitchell Johnson is ahead of Shaun Tait in the pecking order for a place in the Test side'.

Well considering Johnson played in the last two Tests, that's not too unexpected
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Old 20th December 2007, 11:10   #205
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Tait looks to have taken Johnson's place in the ODIs but at least Johnson has the Tests. Tait, of course, thinks he should be opening the bowling with Lee in the Tests and poor Hilfenhaus can't get his international career started.
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Old 20th December 2007, 11:15   #206
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Wasn't Johnson just standing in for Tait during his injury anyway?
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Old 20th December 2007, 11:39   #207
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Wasn't Johnson just standing in for Tait during his injury anyway?
Just looking when they made their debuts
Tait - Test Aug 05 - ODI Feb 07 - 2 Tests 18 ODIs
Johnson - Test Dec 07 - ODI Dec 05 - 2 Tests 25 ODIs
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Old 20th December 2007, 11:54   #208
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Well I was thinking of the one-dayers where both were vying for a position in the World Cup Team. Both got into the squad but it was Tait who played, a decision that was pretty well justified considering his results. Of course, it could be argued that Johnson did OK in the subsequent tour to India during Taits injury hiatus, but I think Tait was always ahead in the pecking order.

In the Tests Tait has never been a regular member of the side, so I think the two are probably ranked fairly equally. Johnson performed adequately in the Tests so Ponting will probably stick with him.
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Old 20th December 2007, 12:43   #209
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Well Johnson played already this summer, Tait hasnt played since he helped Australia lose the Ashes
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Old 20th December 2007, 12:52   #210
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I thought I said that - maybe I have to type more slowly
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I thought I said that - maybe I have to type more slowly
You made it sound like he was in the side and then got injured, been out for over 2 years has he? Plus I like mentioning the fact he helped lose Australia the Ashes
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Old 20th December 2007, 13:31   #212
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You made it sound like he was in the side and then got injured, been out for over 2 years has he?
I specifically said he was never a regular member of the Aussie Test side, and that the injury took him out of the ODI tour to India. Pretty straightforward really, but I forgot you're not really 'with it' on Australian cricket.

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Plus I like mentioning the fact he helped lose Australia the Ashes
I suspect the way England are playing currently there will be a lot of melancholy romanticism about that series.
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I suspect the way England are playing currently there will be a lot of melancholy romanticism about that series.
There already is. It could get worse though, I suppose, frightening though that prospect is.
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I'm hoping Australia plump for Tait over Johnson, with Lee demonstrating a new found maturity CA can afford to accommodate both of them. If I was an Indian batsman, I know who I'd rather not face.
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I'm hoping Australia plump for Tait over Johnson, with Lee demonstrating a new found maturity CA can afford to accommodate both of them. If I was an Indian batsman, I know who I'd rather not face.

Tipped in this morning's press that Johnson will definitely play due to his record against key Indian batsmen and Tait could miss out because the curator is advising management to pick a balanced attack.
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As cabinboy says if I were an Indian batsmen I'd know who I'd prefer to face and that would be Tait. Those two tests he played are well over 2 years ago and it seems that they are judging ODI form as to a guide to how someone will go in tests, which as we know can be extremely ill judged.
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As cabinboy says if I were an Indian batsmen I'd know who I'd prefer to face and that would be Tait. Those two tests he played are well over 2 years ago and it seems that they are judging ODI form as to a guide to how someone will go in tests, which as we know can be extremely ill judged.
I think generally those who perform well in ODI's also go pretty well in Tests, with perhaps the odd exception. Certainly that's the case for Australia, can't speak for England.
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I think generally those who perform well in ODI's also go pretty well in Tests, with perhaps the odd exception. Certainly that's the case for Australia, can't speak for England.
Pace might bring some mis shots and skied hits to fielders in an ODI but there aint as many in the deep in Tests and an mis shot or edge will fly to the boundary, especially over slips as Ricky never uses a 3rd man in tests
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John Buchannan's book If Better is Possible sounds quite good.

'The greatest example of the detail in Buchanan's work is his outline for the 2007 World Cup. He wanted Australia to be "the best-skilled team the world has ever seen". Not only did he demand new standards in bowling, defensive fielding and professionalism, he wanted the most athletic side and a "full expression" batting approach.

In bullet points, he wrote that bowlers had to average 55% of dot-balls during a game, develop signals for particular deliveries, and try to force the opposing batsmen to run around them during their follow-throughs. Runs needed to be scored from 60% of the opportunities, while each player had to improve his personal bests in speed, agility and power tests. Everything had to be organised before the World Cup'.

Having a look at the percentage of dot balls bowled over the WC the bowlers met their targets.

Clark - 85.40 ( bowled in only 1 match)
Tait - 70.61
Bracken - 68.60
McGrath 65.15
Hodge - 63.88 (bowled in only 1 match)
Hogg - 61.36
Watson - 60.29
Clarke - 49.01
Symonds - 42.53
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Pace might bring some mis shots and skied hits to fielders in an ODI but there aint as many in the deep in Tests and an mis shot or edge will fly to the boundary, especially over slips as Ricky never uses a 3rd man in tests
So if you take most of your wickets bowled or LBW you should be right?
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