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Old 30th December 2012, 17:37   #1001
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It means Australia will almost certainly go into next summer's series with only one batsman who has previously scored an Ashes hundred (Clarke x 4). You have to go back to the WSC-ravaged series of 1978/9 to find an Aussie batting line-up with a weaker Ashes pedigree.
When you consider that's already where the weakness was, the Aussie selectors will be deeply concerned. They'll have to take a punt on a player or two and hope. Suppose D Hussey is a plausible option but he's looked like a waning force recently.
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When you consider that's already where the weakness was, the Aussie selectors will be deeply concerned. They'll have to take a punt on a player or two and hope. Suppose D Hussey is a plausible option but he's looked like a waning force recently.
Maybe they'll bring back Bobby Simpson once again?
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Old 30th December 2012, 17:43   #1003
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I'd have a look at Doolan to replace Hussey. But with India coming up perhaps Maxwell is not the worst choice. He seemed to play spin well on his recent tour of the middle east. Certainly better than many of his compatriots. His spin seems pretty weak but at least he could bowl a few overs to give the quicks a break. We can always get a few overs out of Wade at any rate
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They might try Maxwell on that, if needing a second spinner but he really doesn't look up to the task, from his record. He looks like a batting all rounder, which is fine but his bowling seems likely to be cannon fodder against good sides. He's not getting many more than a wicket an innings in first class cricket and hasn't taken one in four ODIs.
That seems a Cameron White-esque solution or possibly even more like Samit Patel. A useful-ish set of stats but not really that much to go on.
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That seems a Cameron White-esque solution or possibly even more like Samit Patel. A useful-ish set of stats but not really that much to go on.
Strikes me as a low upside selection, as his bowling isn't really going to threaten test players and if Watson is fit to bowl a few overs you don't really need a batsman who bowls as a change bowler that much anyway. Not sure who the alternatives as a second spinner are but I think I can work out how good they are, from Lyon being an apparently obvious first choice.
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Old 30th December 2012, 18:14   #1006
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When you consider that's already where the weakness was, the Aussie selectors will be deeply concerned. They'll have to take a punt on a player or two and hope. Suppose D Hussey is a plausible option but he's looked like a waning force recently.
Dont know if you saw his second ball dismiassl v WI in the T20 Wcup where he siy couldnt deal with a short ball fro Rampaul. Reckon that said a lot about why hes never played a test
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Old 30th December 2012, 18:36   #1007
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They might try Maxwell on that, if needing a second spinner but he really doesn't look up to the task, from his record. He looks like a batting all rounder, which is fine but his bowling seems likely to be cannon fodder against good sides. He's not getting many more than a wicket an innings in first class cricket and hasn't taken one in four ODIs.
His batting isn't much to write home about either, although he's done ok in shield cricket. I'd wager no better than Luke Wright at the same stage of respective careers.
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Should be a straight choice between Khawaja and Maxwell for the last batting spot. I'd imagine that the Johnson, Siddle, Hilfenhaus attack will also be back in place for the Ashes.
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Dont know if you saw his second ball dismiassl v WI in the T20 Wcup where he siy couldnt deal with a short ball fro Rampaul. Reckon that said a lot about why hes never played a test
Would be slightly desperate going to a 36 year old who's never played a test. Can't see him doing that well in India, given his frailty against spin. Also, even if he did well, that wouldn't necessarily be that predictive of success against the England pace attack (or spinner(s)), although his good record in England would perhaps tempt the selectors.
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Should be a straight choice between Khawaja and Maxwell for the last batting spot. I'd imagine that the Johnson, Siddle, Hilfenhaus attack will also be back in place for the Ashes.
Think there's next to no chance of the Hilf playing. Saddle is a shoe in if fit. Johnson might play, with his batting a bonus but there are better fast bowlers available, for sure.
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Old 30th December 2012, 23:01   #1011
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Think there's next to no chance of the Hilf playing. Saddle is a shoe in if fit. Johnson might play, with his batting a bonus but there are better fast bowlers available, for sure.
I'd say Siddle is the only lock. Bird is the dark horse. As discussed in the Australia Thread a while back, for me he is the form bowler in Australia and has way more might than the statistically impressive Copeland who did well on debut too. Bird is simply a better bowler. He is faster, straighter, moves the ball both ways and seems to sum up the batsmen rather quickly.

Our selection obsession with extreme pace has got to end. Building pressure and keeping the ball in the right areas was our modus operandi for many a successful year, with the likes of Alderman, Reifel, Fleming and best of all McGrath (credit to Dale domestically).

I quite liked the tandem of Johnson and Bird in this latest test. Admittedly, the opposition, were not up for the fight but it was professional stuff.

At this point for India (assuming fitness stays as is), I would have the following attack in terms of preference. Siddle, Bird, Starc and Johnson. Of course if Harris and Pattinson can prove their fitness it may change but for mine, Siddle and Bird should be there.

Anyway perhaps should continue this on the Australia thread rather than pollute Mr. Cricket's. It has sunken in today how much I am going to miss Mike Hussey.
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Old 31st December 2012, 08:57   #1012
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Right, I've moved some of the posts from the Mike Hussey retirement thread onto the Australia thread as they veered away from the main thrust of the topic. Given that they are still in the process of sealing a Ponting replacement (at the moment Phil Hughes) and will have to pick a replacement for Hussey in India in the New Year I think it this is the place to discuss.
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Old 31st December 2012, 15:52   #1013
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Seems like Wade moving up to 6, with Maxwell coming in at 7 is becoming more of a possibility. But they're only talking about this happening if Watson is out injured, for now.
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Which might be the weakest Australian batting line up since the 80s if Clarke is out. Still, I'd expect threm to fill their boots.
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Maxwell is a better permanent solution given Watson is unlikely to keep bowling and will struggle to hold his spot

Khawaja still has the same weaknesses and isnt exactly lighting it up in the Shield either

Maxwell would make a good number 7 and Wade is definately capable of holding down the no6 spot
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Which might be the weakest Australian batting line up since the 80s if Clarke is out. Still, I'd expect threm to fill their boots.
Clarke has been passed fit for Sydney.
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Maxwell is a better permanent solution given Watson is unlikely to keep bowling and will struggle to hold his spot

Khawaja still has the same weaknesses and isnt exactly lighting it up in the Shield either

Maxwell would make a good number 7 and Wade is definately capable of holding down the no6 spot
That still strikes me as a bit bits and pieces. With Watson, he really does need to be able to bowl because he's hardly worth his place as a batsman alone, though I do believe he is better suited to number 6 than up the order.
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The Aussies look even more vulnerable than they were when England hammered them in 2010-11. Clarke will have to continue his stellar form for them to be remotely competitive in the Ashes. Wade and Maxwell at 6 and 7!? Well, well, well.
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What happened to Callum Ferguson? Has he got a CA contract?
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That still strikes me as a bit bits and pieces. With Watson, he really does need to be able to bowl because he's hardly worth his place as a batsman alone, though I do believe he is better suited to number 6 than up the order.
Definately is, he cannot convert his 50's so he is wasted higher up the order. Maxwell so far has about 8 50's and only 1 century so will be similar, so I just reckon if you are going to pick 1 of them at 6/7 then better to go with the bloke who can bowl as well

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What happened to Callum Ferguson? Has he got a CA contract?
Doubtful, he was a reasonable ODI finisher but thats about it, never done much at first class level and his injury probably cost him his ODI spot as there is no lack of batsmen pushing for ODI selection

But he is still playing domestic cricket for SA/Adelaide
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