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Old 11th August 2007, 05:12   #1
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The India Thread.

Very satisfying perpormance in England so far lets hope we win 2-0
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Old 11th August 2007, 20:43   #2
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It looks like a racing certainty.
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Old 14th August 2007, 08:41   #3
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well done India... after the WC a lot of their fans were doubting them but they have proven that the mixture of age and young blood works. Congrats on winning a test Rubber In England.
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Old 15th August 2007, 13:05   #4
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Thanks FK, It was a fantastic win, any win after a decade is priceless!!

Am i the only Indian supporter here, need to redress the balance!






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Old 7th October 2007, 02:39   #5
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Sad reality of Indian cricket. You ain't got the approach, you won't get anywhere.

Living for cricket, dying to play the game:

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Published on Saturday , October 06, 2007 at 22:03 in Sports section


The 11 young men of Team India are bursting with talent and after winning the Twenty20 championship they are the darlings of the nation.


A place in Team India is what every young cricketer in the country aspires for. The competition is very tough and for every Dhoni, Pathan or Bhajji who makes it to the team countless cricketing dreams go bust every day. And many can’t cope up with the disappointment.


Subhash Dixit, 22, was a promising all-rounder from Kanpur. His first brush with fame came when he was named captain of India Under-15 team for the Asia Cup. Leading young Irfan Pathan, Parthiv Patel and other youngsters, Subhash won the cup.


Subhash was then made captain of the Uttar Pradesh Under-19 team and cricketers like RP Singh and Suresh Raina played under him. But then suddenly, around 2004, Subhash’s performance started dipping.


Runs stopped flowing from his bat, and typically no one in the cricket administration help him to recover form. Subhash had lost his way and by 2005 Kanpur’s rising star was on the verge of a nervous breakdown.

On 9 June 2007, he walked up to the sixth floor of Krishna Tower in Kanpur for a view of the Green Park stadium. He dreamt of conquering the world from this stadium but that dream was failing. Subhash jumped to his death.


His family and friends still can’t believe that Subhash was so desperate. “We never knew he was so troubled and came to know of his death from a newspaper,” says Radha, the young sportsman’s sister at their home in Permat colony.


Cricketer Suresh Raina says Subhash was a thinking captain and a helpful person. “He had a cricketing brain and as a captain he analysed situations well. This is proven by his performance as captain of UP’s Under-19 team. He helped me a lot when I played under him,” says Raina.

Subhash was worried for his family. His parents were mentally challenged and he had hoped a career in cricket would improve their lives. “He has a friend in Uttaranchal who told us that Subhash was depressed and he feared that he would commit suicide,” says family friend Sameer Satsangi.


Friends and fellow players blame the Uttar Pradesh Cricket Association for Subhash's death. They say if Subhash’s life could have been saved if he was given support and guidance.


Turn to Lucknow

Subhash's tragedy has a similar ring in Lucknow. Manish Mishra, a talented left arm spinner, was a young cricketer 15 years ago. He played Under-16 and Under-19 for UP and attended an India Under-19 camp. He hoped to play for UP's senior team but then the opportunities dried up.


Manish, who wanted to conquer the world with his bowling, was stuck in a Class IV job in the Railways. He kept hoping that one day he would get a chance in cricket.


“Cricket was Manish’s life and identity. He took 36 wickets in three matches and he hoped the record would lead him to the Ranji Trophy championship. But he didn’t get what he expected from cricket. He was talented but couldn’t succeeded and this played on his mind,” says his uncle J K Mishra.


Gradually the frustration grew and even a promotion could not give Manish a reason to live. In August 2006 Manish hung himself. Tarun, Manish’s cousin and his teammate, wonders why the system that nurtures you turns its back when you need it most. “I must not say this as a sportsman but in cricket destiny matters a lot,” says Manish.

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Old 7th October 2007, 10:46   #6
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Sadly these kind of stories keep repeating themselves all over the sub continent. I wonder when our governments will try to give people who have talents like the above decent enough pay and chances to make a life based on their talent. I find it appalling that international cricketers like Younis Khan have to hold a position in banks to make a living on the side.
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Sadly these kind of stories keep repeating themselves all over the sub continent. I wonder when our governments will try to give people who have talents like the above decent enough pay and chances to make a life based on their talent. I find it appalling that international cricketers like Younis Khan have to hold a position in banks to make a living on the side.
How much work is he likely to do for them except a bit of promotional photo shoots? Even so I'm surprised he doesn't earn enough from sponsorship/wages to not have to bother. I'd have though Pakistan was the 2nd biggest market for cricket after all.
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You can't survive just on FC cricket in India (and I assume Pakistan), unlike England or Australia, so players do these jobs on the side in the off-season. However, if you are lucky enough to be one of the few who become international stars, those jobs cease to become an irrelevance. They are kept anyways, but the players aren't really dependent on them to make a living at all. The companies, shockingly enough, don't object to the publicity they get from the star status of their "employees".
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You can't survive just on FC cricket in India (and I assume Pakistan), unlike England or Australia, so players do these jobs on the side in the off-season. However, if you are lucky enough to be one of the few who become international stars, those jobs cease to become an irrelevance. They are kept anyways, but the players aren't really dependent on them to make a living at all. The companies, shockingly enough, don't object to the publicity they get from the star status of their "employees".
harbhajan Singh is the DSP of jallandhar , i reckon all the money that the Indian cricketers earn should be locked up until they are 55 years old, they have to live on interest only until then, that might change the state of Indian cricket, we might see a few genuine players in the team!!
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Q:Why doesn't BCCI have a website?

A: They dont wan't the world to see how inept they are at running a website.

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Tendulkar has declined the test captaincy

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I can fully understand why he doesn't want to do this again, dare they do the unthinkable and ask Ganguly to step in for an interim period, its a tough ask to expect Dhoni to do it, a w/k is too tougher position to do the job on a regular basis in tests. The only other suggestion would be to give Karthik the gloves, but he's an opener making his way in the game and that would be a tough call as well.
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I was expecting him to take it up. I don't think Dhoni should be burdened with Test captaincy as well, but i don't see a clear alternative, maybe Anil Kumble?
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I can fully understand why he doesn't want to do this again, dare they do the unthinkable and ask Ganguly to step in for an interim period, its a tough ask to expect Dhoni to do it, a w/k is too tougher position to do the job on a regular basis in tests.
There are certainly reasonable concerns about giving Dhoni the captaincy right now, and letting a senior player serve as a stop gap for a few months is the safer choice. The selectors might go for it in the meeting after the second one-day international against Pakistan.

However, Dhoni seems to have the type of personality and attitude that can meet this challenge. His most substantial achievements have all been against the odds: reaching the national team despite hailing from a small Indian town, not known for cricketing excellence and lacking in facilities and political influence; scoring runs against international attacks despite an unorthodox technique (there have been some problems on more testing pitches, of course, but which Indian batsman hasn't had these difficulties?) and then winning the Twenty20 World Cup with a side written off by most. Leading the Test side as keeper also seems like too demanding a task, but, going by his past achievements, there is no reason think he won't be up to it.

He looks a natural leader too, something which could never have been said about his predecessor (although he was a great batsman and, by most accounts, a nice man).
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He looks a natural leader too, something which could never have been said about his predecessor (although he was a great batsman and, by most accounts, a nice man).
I had a good deal more respect for Dhoni after the tour of England, he weighed in with two good knocks for the team, the first of which at Lords was out of keeping with his reputation. I regarded him prior to this as hugely entertaining but not much more reliable than Afridi, especially away from the subcontinent. He's certainly laid that to rest now and his attitude is great, and he is nowhere near as submissive (hate to say it CG but too much of a stereotype for Indian people per se) as many other Indian cricketers.
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And the new captain is.....Anil Kumble

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There are certainly reasonable concerns about giving Dhoni the captaincy right now, and letting a senior player serve as a stop gap for a few months is the safer choice. The selectors might go for it in the meeting after the second one-day international against Pakistan.
So the safer choice it is. Can't say I agree with it, but Kumble is one of the more respected players in the game, and possibly more importantly in Indian cricket, his career has been refreshingly free of politics. I wish him well in what will be a tough series.
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So the safer choice it is. Can't say I agree with it, but Kumble is one of the more respected players in the game, and possibly more importantly in Indian cricket, his career has been refreshingly free of politics. I wish him well in what will be a tough series.
I was under the mistaken impression that he had retired

I'm not normally a fan of "safe" choices, but I think it makes a lot of sense for India, lacking suitable candidates as they do.

That's nothing against Dhoni, I think 'keepers make excellent vice-captains (indeed its part of their job to be an unoffical one, one of the reasons Geraint Jones was preferred to Chris Read) but less suited as long term test captains.
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I was under the mistaken impression that he had retired
To be fair, he has retired from ODI cricket. Incidentally, this will help Dhoni in leading the ODI side; this is the first time India are faced with a two captain situation (which can be potentially difficult to manage) and he will at least not have to worry about the presence of the Test captain in the ODI team.

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That's nothing against Dhoni, I think 'keepers make excellent vice-captains (indeed its part of their job to be an unoffical one, one of the reasons Geraint Jones was preferred to Chris Read) but less suited as long term test captains.
True enough. As I said previously, I personally think Dhoni can succeed despite the very demanding nature of the job, but there is no denying how few keepers have ever successfully combined captaincy and Test batting. The selectors understand the game better (though are sometimes compromised by political compulsions) and have seen Dhoni more closely than an average fan like myself, and may feel Dhoni needs to be kept away from the pressures of Test captaincy.

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