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Old 3rd April 2017, 17:15   #341
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So India's massive home season comes to a close - marked by a decidedly (and largely needlessly) bitter series against Australia, but extremely high in the quality of cricket. In time hopefully that is remembered and not the shenanigans of players from both sides, but particularly the Indian captain.

So where do India stand now? There's no doubt that this team is building up its strength at home and starting a new legacy there. But the burning question remains if they can replicate this away from home - or will they end up as yet another "tigers at home, lambs abroad" caricature? Unfortunately all the signs point towards a yes for that question:

- Key batsmen (Pujara, Kohli) have technical deficiencies that are hidden on the slow and low Indian pitches

- Out of the younger crop of batsmen, only Rahul looks like he has the technique and wherewithal to cope on more pacy and bouncy pitches

- The fast bowlers become a force with the reverse swinging old ball - not unlike many Indian pacers of the past. This will be of little use outside Asia

- The potency of the spinners on Aus/NZ/SA/Eng pitches remains questionable. Course no one is expecting sub-20 averages, but even an average of 30 with key incisions during a match or series seems a lot to ask for

Its pretty hard to make a case that this group of players is going to be any good away from Asia on that basis. Hopefully they will be competitive and not be whitewashed too many times but without fast bowlers who can skillfully use the new ball, spinners who can learn to succeed on unfriendly pitches and batsmen who have the technical skill to counter both pace and spin, its likely to be the same old for India - just with players who will get paid more as mentioned above.
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Old 4th April 2017, 06:13   #342
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Indian teams seemed to be getting better under Ganguly and Dravid while touring abroad, but they definitely went back to the old ways under Dhoni. With Kohli placing importance on test cricket, and some of our key players deciding to skip the IPL to nurse their injuries, I hope our players would work on skills required outside subcontinent.

One batsman I expect to perform better abroad than in India would be Ajinkya Rahane. As for the bowlers, I think they'll need to work on their length more than anything else to succeed. Also, I hope we will have specialist slip fielders.
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Old 13th April 2017, 11:09   #343
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Getting Shami back would help India's new ball potency as would Umesh continuing his form. Those two would be reasonable bowlers outside of Asia, yet pace bowling bench strength when you need 3 class acts at least would be a problem, yes.

Not sure Kohli is quite the liability you make him out to be, he's scored plenty of runs in Australia and South Africa recently. Yes he struggled in England, but he also struggled in the series just gone when inexplicably he decided to play no shots to the spinners. I guess he's a bit too mercurial to be a true great.

That's my take on it. Agree with Rahane probably being the most important batsman outside Asia too.
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Old 20th June 2017, 19:32   #344
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Pretty shameful that Virat Kohli has been allowed to bully Anil Kumble out of a job.
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Old 20th June 2017, 19:37   #345
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https://twitter.com/anilkumble1074/s...18428318351361

Fairly strong statement on Twitter as well. Good on him - he's a greater ever cricketer than Kohli will ever be and Kohli needs to be taught some home truths.
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Old 20th June 2017, 19:41   #346
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Hey CG. Any downlow on why Virat and Anil don't get on? Is it that Kohli just doesn't rate him or some other reason?
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Old 20th June 2017, 20:18   #347
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Apparently he thinks Kumble's attitude is intimidating & overbearing for some of the younger members of the squad. Maybe that's true, but I think that's an issue of management style that could be refined.

E.g., Kumble was known to have a short temper in his playing days - but against players who didn't live up to the very high standards of commitment and fight that he set himself. He was through and through a team man, which isn't a label that easily fits many top Indian players. I don't imagine he was any different as coach - heart in the right place but perhaps came across as too stern.

Also some whispers about Kumble backing Pujara (in contrast to Kohli's early days as captain)...but I doubt there's much substance to those sorts of things.

All very disappointing to me. Kohli is a good player but the jury remains out on his captaincy. I don't think stripping him off the captaincy would affect India's performances that much. Course he could start sooking and let his performances slip but I think he'd come into line eventually. Whatever else you say about him, his desire to become the best player he can is unquestionable and you can't achieve that outside international cricket, no matter how many houses IPL money might buy.
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Old 20th June 2017, 20:22   #348
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Apparently he thinks Kumble's attitude is intimidating & overbearing for some of the younger members of the squad. Maybe that's true, but I think that's an issue of management style that could be refined.

E.g., Kumble was known to have a short temper in his playing days - but against players who didn't live up to the very high standards of commitment and fight that he set himself. He was through and through a team man, which isn't a label that easily fits many top Indian players. I don't imagine he was any different as coach - heart in the right place but perhaps came across as too stern.

Also some whispers about Kumble backing Pujara (in contrast to Kohli's early days as captain)...but I doubt there's much substance to those sorts of things.
I guess there might be an interesting generational shift in attitudes about how you encourage youngsters to succeed at the top level. You see it across many different sports these days where more 'old school' people who will just say it and be harshly critical are less likely to be listened to or respected. Be interesting to see who India appoint next and whether that appointment bears the theory out.
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Old 20th June 2017, 21:50   #349
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As long as they keep Sehwag out of a coaching position, I'm good.

While I don't rate Kohli's captaincy, at least based on what I've seen till date, Kumble didn't really do his job as coach either to try and plug the gaps of Kohli's tactical nous. And if he doesn't do that, it doesn't really make a difference if he stays or goes.
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Old 21st June 2017, 19:42   #350
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While I don't rate Kohli's captaincy, at least based on what I've seen till date, Kumble didn't really do his job as coach either to try and plug the gaps of Kohli's tactical nous.
But do we know whether

i. Kumble didn't do his job properly or
ii. Kumble did his job properly but the other party wasn't willing to listen?

I certainly have no idea. But if the answer is ii. then it merits a debate. As Zebras sensibly points out, there may be a generation gap issue and it might be that a softer approach will better engage Kohli.

But if it this was a case of Kohli bullying down contrary opinions, that does not bode well for the next coach and more importantly Indian cricket in general.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 06:56   #351
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Unfortunately, Kohli would not be able to come out and comment on his side of the story as BCCI would not permit that. So, Kumble comes out of this whole thing looking like the victim. It doesn't help Kohli much that he acts all silly in the name of aggression. Does it mean Kohli is the one who's completely at fault, I don't know. Having followed Indian cricket for a while, nothing is ever straightforward and it always is a combination of factors which cause such issues. The sad thing is that there doesn't seem to have been enough effort to sort things out earlier.

I'm with Anarchy in that I too hope Sehwag doesn't get the coach's job. In fact, give it to Shastri and that'll keep him away from commentating.
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Old 22nd June 2017, 17:00   #352
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Unfortunately, Kohli would not be able to come out and comment on his side of the story as BCCI would not permit that. So, Kumble comes out of this whole thing looking like the victim.
This is fair. Kohli doesn't get the chance to explain his view and convince the naysayers like me.

But he really doesn't help himself with childish antics like deleting the "welcome Kumble" tweet he posted a year ago. I mean, really? A fifth grader deleting his friend from his Facebook list (or SnapChat or whatever the kids use these days) after a falling-out I can understand. But a man nearing 30 years of age and one of the top professionals in his field following a professional disagreement?
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Old 23rd June 2017, 08:34   #353
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https://thefield.scroll.in/841287/an...entitled-brats

This article, by one of India's longer serving and most credible journalists, pretty much lays bare Kohli's arrogance and childishness - as well as his teammates. Particularly like the savaging of Rohit Sharma, emblematic of the entitled brat attitude of this generation of Indian players - a second rate flat track bully who thinks far too much of his abilities.
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This is fair. Kohli doesn't get the chance to explain his view and convince the naysayers like me.

But he really doesn't help himself with childish antics like deleting the "welcome Kumble" tweet he posted a year ago. I mean, really? A fifth grader deleting his friend from his Facebook list (or SnapChat or whatever the kids use these days) after a falling-out I can understand. But a man nearing 30 years of age and one of the top professionals in his field following a professional disagreement?
I'm not absolving Kohli in any way, and his antics make him a more likely villain, but it never is really a fault of just one person. Kumble is also a quite strong character, and he never was known to mince his words during his playing days. So, it could be a clash of two strong personalities.

What I just couldn't digest was Kumble's assertion that he didn't know things were this bad when they apparently stopped talking 6 months back. What is his man-management skills if he didn't realise that Kohli or the team wasn't responding to him? Did he escalate it to anyone in BCCI? In short, this is just another chapter in Indian cricketing history.
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What I just couldn't digest was Kumble's assertion that he didn't know things were this bad when they apparently stopped talking 6 months back. What is his man-management skills if he didn't realise that Kohli or the team wasn't responding to him? Did he escalate it to anyone in BCCI? In short, this is just another chapter in Indian cricketing history.
Yes that is a pretty strange assertion from Kumble. Can't defend him on that one, to be honest. Even if hypothetically it was all the players fault (and you're right, one party is never completely to blame), if Kumble couldn't see he had lost the team for 6 months then it doesn't speak too highly of him either.
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Old 10th July 2017, 13:07   #356
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Was flicking through the channels the other day and stumbled on the India - W Indies series, what I was shocked by was how empty the grounds were. There were at most only a handful of spectators and most of them were Indian, what's going on? What's happened to the famous Carribean carnival atmosphere at the cricket, where have all the fans gone?

Having said that in our tour of India during the winter just gone, during the test series the grounds were pretty much empty as well, I thought Indians were die hard cricket supporters, so why didn't they turn up for what was a big series?
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Rohit Sharma scores his third ODI double ton. Quite remarkable really given that the first ever ODI 2000 only a few years ago and he has 3 out of the 7 ever scored.
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Rohit Sharma scores his third ODI double ton. Quite remarkable really given that the first ever ODI 2000 only a few years ago and he has 3 out of the 7 ever scored.
who scored an ODI 2000??????
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Rohit Sharma is a hack fraud.
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