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Old 10th January 2010, 11:08   #61
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Well we still have some useful bowlers even without Bond & O'Brien. The likes of Martin, Southee, Tuffey & Franklin would probably all be in the mix. Not sure what's happened to Mark Gillespie, he seems to have dropped off the radar but he has pace and is a wicket taker even if he can be a bit of a pie merchant at times. Obviously we should have an advantage in the spin department with Vettori, as well as Patel for back up or possibly even partnering Vettori if conditions suit spin.

The Aussies probably have more of an advantage over us in the batting department than they do in the bowling department, especially the top order. Hopefully Ryder is fit for the test series as we badly need his class in the top order.
Franklin, he seems to batter than he bowls these days. Southee he has some talent but this is time for him to step up and secure a place in the NZ side, there are places to be had in the bowling stocks. Yes, of course Vettori and Patel are better than Hauritz. My main concern as I said before is the 20 wickets where they will come from.

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Old 10th January 2010, 11:17   #62
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Hauritz is underrated and I don't think he is a bad bowler. I would rate him ahead of Patel.

As I said Tuffey at least in NZ'S conditions isn't a bad bowler so he should do well. I won't say a bowling attack of Tuffey, Martin, Southee and Vettori is bad but their batting isn't good enough.I feel though that watling isn't a bad player and should do well in test cricket.
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Old 10th January 2010, 11:20   #63
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Patel was a dreadfull bowler in Fc matches for Warwicks last year. Didnt really offer anything - yet excellent in one days.
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Old 10th January 2010, 11:24   #64
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Yeah as I think his main strength is to bowl in the end overs in one-day cricket. I would rate Hauritz ahead of him.
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Old 10th January 2010, 11:29   #65
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Yeah as I think his main strength is to bowl in the end overs in one-day cricket. I would rate Hauritz ahead of him.
Very good at the end in T20s. Id have Hauritz in Fc cricket as well. In that form of the game, Patel ranks among the worst O/S players we've had at Warwicks - and we've had a few.
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Old 10th January 2010, 12:16   #66
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Hauritz gets wickets because batsmen underrate him, not because of his bowling skills.
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I don't agree as I think Hauritz has improved and he at least tries to toss it up to get some drift but Patel mainly looks to bowl darts.
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Old 10th January 2010, 12:36   #68
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Hauritz it's not even the best spinner in Australia or the best one in this side. Krejza is the one who tries to spin the ball and succeeds in this regard. Hauritz is tighter but is no threat to decent batsmen as for Patel he won't play unless Vettori is injured.
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Hauritz it's not even the best spinner in Australia or the best one in this side. Krejza is the one who tries to spin the ball and succeeds in this regard. Hauritz is tighter but is no threat to decent batsmen as for Patel he won't play unless Vettori is injured.
Im surpsried a county hasnt picked him up because he's eligible as a non overseas player
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Krejza is a decent spinner and I saw him bowl well in India though he was smashed around at Perth against the Saffers but this year he has taken 17 wickets at 47.23 for Tassies and that is not going to help him to get into the Australian squad for sure.

As far as Hauritz is concerned I would say that he has improved as a bowler and is a touch underrated.
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Yeah though I think he is a bit better than Harris as Harris has a round arm action and comes from wide of the crease so he won't get many lbw's but I like his temperament.
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Old 10th January 2010, 14:40   #73
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Chris Gayle summed it up perfectly, it's like facing my own bowling.
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Yeah and a record of 47 wickets at 30.31 which is good for a spinner agrees with that statement!
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Martin is on the downhill slope to retirement, methinks. Tuffey looked decent. If Franklin's fit, I'd put out Southee, Franklin & Tuffey. With Franklin being a genuine #8, you could even slot in another quick. Maybe Arnel @ 11. Might not be required if Ryder's fit to bowl though.
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Solid choices there Dan, considering what NZ have to choose from in the bowling stocks.
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Martin is on the downhill slope to retirement, methinks. Tuffey looked decent. If Franklin's fit, I'd put out Southee, Franklin & Tuffey. With Franklin being a genuine #8, you could even slot in another quick. Maybe Arnel @ 11. Might not be required if Ryder's fit to bowl though.
The notion of Ryder being fit is a slightly amusing one but I know what you mean.
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Old 29th January 2010, 20:30   #79
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