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Old 22nd January 2011, 17:29   #661
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Has he batted much? Only bowling one over in two games isn't great for an overseas player, especially considering the strength of Australian spin bowling.
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Old 22nd January 2011, 20:02   #662
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Has he batted much? Only bowling one over in two games isn't great for an overseas player, especially considering the strength of Australian spin bowling.
Well Mahmood was dropped by his team after 3 matches (50.00 econ 14.28 s/r 24.0)

Rashid hasn't batted much because he is down at 9 and 10 in the batting order.

The other bowlers bowling with Rashid

Pollard - 13.33 econ 6.15 s/r 13.0
Rashid - 13.40 econ 7.44 s/r 10.0
O'Brien - 15.69 econ 6.50 s/r 12.00 (spin)
Lyon - 19.66 econ 8.42 s/r 14.0 (spin)
Christian - 22.2 econ 8.32 s/r 16.0
Tait - 58.00 econ 9.66 s/r 36.0
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Old 22nd January 2011, 22:07   #663
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Spot the Aussie international bowler.....
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Old 24th January 2011, 10:29   #664
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Lastest on Rashid

4 0 20 3

Opened the bowling this time.
Cosgrove, ten Doeschate and Butterworth his victims.
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Old 24th January 2011, 10:56   #665
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Certainly a better batsman and bowler than Treadwell...a better bowler than Yardy...and there's an argument to say he'd score as many runs as Yardy is managing at the moment.
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Old 24th January 2011, 20:41   #666
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Certainly a better batsman and bowler than Treadwell...a better bowler than Yardy...and there's an argument to say he'd score as many runs as Yardy is managing at the moment.
It's seriously rum that our reserve spinner is Tredwell, isn't it? How does that guy get a gig in anything that resembles an ODI side? I'm not even going to mention his test cap - oops. I can see why Rashid has been given a bit of a wide berth recently but given our alternatives, he's very unlucky.
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Old 24th January 2011, 22:00   #667
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It's seriously rum that our reserve spinner is Tredwell, isn't it? How does that guy get a gig in anything that resembles an ODI side? I'm not even going to mention his test cap - oops. I can see why Rashid has been given a bit of a wide berth recently but given our alternatives, he's very unlucky.
Certainly while Swann is out of the team our spin bowling showing looks comparatively village, and we ourselves look unlucky, not to mention AR. Still, Tredwell's a better spinner than Yardy.
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Old 25th January 2011, 17:34   #668
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Certainly while Swann is out of the team our spin bowling showing looks comparatively village, and we ourselves look unlucky, not to mention AR. Still, Tredwell's a better spinner than Yardy.
is he a better bowler?
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Old 25th January 2011, 17:44   #669
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is he a better bowler?
Can you see Yardy getting in to the test XI as a second spinner? Admittedly he nearly did at one point in the Fletcher days; but even Fletcher wasn't that potty.
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Can you see Yardy getting in to the test XI as a second spinner? Admittedly he nearly did at one point in the Fletcher days; but even Fletcher wasn't that potty.
Can you evidence that he nearly got in or was he just floating around in a match squad to put the wind up people on here?
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Old 26th January 2011, 16:00   #671
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Can you evidence that he nearly got in or was he just floating around in a match squad to put the wind up people on here?
As I recall, noises from within the camp as interpreted by various journos suggested at one point that he was going to make his debut, but as is so often the case, they were wrong. Can't remember when it was though (or whether 'to evidence' is a verb).
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As I recall, noises from within the camp as interpreted by various journos suggested at one point that he was going to make his debut, but as is so often the case, they were wrong. Can't remember when it was though (or whether 'to evidence' is a verb).
Touche (without the acute accent because I can't be bothered to look up the combination of alt and numbers required).
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I recall that too, vaguely. Might have been before the last Sri Lanka tour.
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After the World Cup I would like to the our ODI bowling as

Anderson
Broad
Shahzad
Swann
Rashid

with Collingwood as the 6th bowler.

reserves - Tremlett, Woakes, Bresnan

I think Rashid will be more a wicket taker than either Yardy or Tredwell.
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Old 27th January 2011, 00:07   #675
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Can't remember when Yardy was ever in the Test frame; are you sure you don't mean Dalrymple, who came into the ODI side at the same time and almost got a Test at Sydney on the last Ashes tour?

I reckon they've got to take a punt on Rashid at some point in the near future; his form in county cricket is up and down, and has been for several years and will probably continue to be. But if you wait too long there is the chance he will simply wither on the vine. And the Yardys and Tredwells of this world take you only so far in international cricket.
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Old 27th January 2011, 00:17   #676
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Can't remember when Yardy was ever in the Test frame; are you sure you don't mean Dalrymple, who came into the ODI side at the same time and almost got a Test at Sydney on the last Ashes tour?

I reckon they've got to take a punt on Rashid at some point in the near future; his form in county cricket is up and down, and has been for several years and will probably continue to be. But if you wait too long there is the chance he will simply wither on the vine. And the Yardys and Tredwells of this world take you only so far in international cricket.
To be fair, there was a time when Yardy wasn't too far from the test team. He'd just scored 1500+ runs for Sussex when they were County Champions and was in the Lions team.

God knows what happened to his batting in the mean-time.
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Old 27th January 2011, 01:51   #677
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After the World Cup I would like to the our ODI bowling as

Anderson
Broad
Shahzad
Swann
Rashid

with Collingwood as the 6th bowler.

reserves - Tremlett, Woakes, Bresnan

I think Rashid will be more a wicket taker than either Yardy or Tredwell.
Collingwood is unlikely to make the 2015 World Cup (he'll be almost 39 then), so he should be phased out from the ODI team after the World Cup. Same for Strauss, although the good thing for England is that those are the only two likely retirements before the next World Cup.
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Old 27th January 2011, 04:15   #678
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To be fair, there was a time when Yardy wasn't too far from the test team. He'd just scored 1500+ runs for Sussex when they were County Champions and was in the Lions team.

God knows what happened to his batting in the mean-time.
Did he ever make a Test squad?

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Collingwood is unlikely to make the 2015 World Cup (he'll be almost 39 then), so he should be phased out from the ODI team after the World Cup. Same for Strauss, although the good thing for England is that those are the only two likely retirements before the next World Cup.
I doubt Pietersen will make it to 2015.

I expect Strauss will step aside immediately after the World Cup. With Collingwood it depends more on form; if he can get back to near his best, then he should remain in the team regardless of whether he's going to be around for the next four years or not.
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Cant see where Adil gets his 'must pick' status from. He averages - list A 14 and 40. The wrong way.
I reckon we wait.
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Cant see where Adil gets his 'must pick' status from. He averages - list A 14 and 40. The wrong way.
I reckon we wait.

Looking at the players who are playing at the moment in Australia and their list A figures for last season

76 overs 11 wickets at 34.18 econ 4.64 s/r 44.18 - Tredwell
84.5 overs 7 wickets at 42.18 econ 5.46 s/r 46.7 - Smith (Aus)
22 overs 3 wickets at 44.33 econ 6.04 s/r 44.0 - Doherty (Aus)
126.5 overs 12 wickets at 53.16 econ 4.98 s/r 64.0 - Yardy

74.0 overs 10 wickets at 36.80 econ 4.97 s/r 44.0 - Rashid
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