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Old 27th December 2009, 14:03   #21
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At least when Martin retires the batting line up will be stronger!
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Old 27th December 2009, 14:14   #22
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At least when Martin retires the batting line up will be stronger!
We'll miss his batting. Test cricket doesn't have enough true rabbits any more and with Panesar out of the England side and Ntini coming to the end of his career, we'll be very short.
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Old 27th December 2009, 14:14   #23
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At least when Martin retires the batting line up will be stronger!
NZ have had a bit of a tradition of producing abject no11s with Danny Morrison being particularly memorable albeit I do remember his rearguard action about 12 years ago.
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Old 27th December 2009, 15:12   #24
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At least they didn't select a team with 3 in them. Giddins, Tufnell and Mullalley anyone??
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Old 28th December 2009, 00:02   #25
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At least they didn't select a team with 3 in them. Giddins, Tufnell and Mullalley anyone??
With Caddick at 8, if I recall correctly. I wouldn't actually have minded picking three players who couldn't bat (and Mullalley was so bad he came below Tufnell, Giddins so abject that he came below Mullalley) so much but they couldn't bowl either.
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Old 28th December 2009, 08:12   #26
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With Caddick at 8, if I recall correctly. I wouldn't actually have minded picking three players who couldn't bat (and Mullalley was so bad he came below Tufnell, Giddins so abject that he came below Mullalley) so much but they couldn't bowl either.
Mullaly's batting actually won a England a test match in Melbourne. He tonked McGrath for 3 fours in a row and those runs helped as England didn't win by much.

Greatbatch is right about the pussy whipped thing.
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Old 28th December 2009, 20:45   #27
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Mullaly's batting actually won a England a test match in Melbourne. He tonked McGrath for 3 fours in a row and those runs helped as England didn't win by much.

Greatbatch is right about the pussy whipped thing.
Was that the series with the record number of ducks (I'd sold them on a spread), with many of them scored by Mullally?
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Old 28th December 2009, 21:33   #28
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Old 28th December 2009, 21:41   #29
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Old 29th December 2009, 00:54   #30
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Was that the series with the record number of ducks (I'd sold them on a spread), with many of them scored by Mullally?
I know it was the 98/99 series and England won by 12 runs with big Al scoring 16 and McGrath getting irritated haha.

Onto the subject, seriously this Kiwi attack now will struggle to bowl out village teams in Tests, especially without Bond and O'Brien.
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I know it was the 98/99 series and England won by 12 runs with big Al scoring 16 and McGrath getting irritated haha.

Onto the subject, seriously this Kiwi attack now will struggle to bowl out village teams in Tests, especially without Bond and O'Brien.
Yes, that's the series. Mullally scored 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 16 (and also got 0 in his next two test innings). He took 5-84 the match, which was probably more important than his 16 runs between the two innings.

Back on topic, it's not as if NZ has relied on the almost entirely absent Bond to bowl sides out but then equally, it's not as if NZ hasn't generally struggled to take 20 test wickets either.
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Yes, that's the series. Mullally scored 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 16 (and also got 0 in his next two test innings). He took 5-84 the match, which was probably more important than his 16 runs between the two innings.

Back on topic, it's not as if NZ has relied on the almost entirely absent Bond to bowl sides out but then equally, it's not as if NZ hasn't generally struggled to take 20 test wickets either.
Chris Martin and Mullally should open a batting academy.
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Chris Martin and Mullally should open a batting academy.
Monty Panesar as a guest lecturer.
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Monty Panesar as a guest lecturer.
I can only really think of Kaneria and Ntini of current players who could add anything to that sort of standard of teaching.
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I think Tufnell would also have to be invited to give some lifestyle advice as well as batting assistance!
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The godfather would be former Aussie leg spinner Jim Higgs who went through the whole tour of England not scoring a run.

NZ has produced some quirky characters and some rubbish tailenders.
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I can only really think of Kaneria and Ntini of current players who could add anything to that sort of standard of teaching.
Kaneria's batting has improved in a Murali style way. He was often sent up the order by Essex when they required a pinch-hitter

He averaged more in the last English first class season than Grant Flower, Stuart Law and test "all-rounders" Gareth Batty, Darren Sammy, Brett Lee and Grant Elliott. In one-day cricket he averaged 21.50 when the likes of Prior averaged 21.91, Shane Watson 21.85 and more than Essex skipper Mark Pettini, Ashwell Prince, the "next big thing" Dawid Malan, Dominic Cork, Tim Ambrose, Alex Gidman, Azhar Mahmood, one-day all-rounder Tim Bresnan, Andre Adams, Adil Rashid, Grant Elliott and Gareth Batty (again), potential England one-day captain Rob Key, tail-end rabbit Chris Read (where's he on your list?), Stuart Broad, Graeme Swann etc etc
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Fair point, haven't seen Kaneria bat for a while. Sorry, I kind of discount Chris Read from selection.
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Old 31st December 2009, 00:27   #39
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Fair point, haven't seen Kaneria bat for a while.
If you get the chance he's well worth watching with a bat in his hand these days as he's not short of shots.
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There needs to be more tailenders throwing the bat around, it's good for the game.
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