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Old 22nd April 2011, 00:34   #61
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How can you write that much ***** in the middle?
You've linked to the wrong site/article. That's Mike Selvey on Andy Flower.
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Old 22nd April 2011, 00:58   #62
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You've linked to the wrong site/article. That's Mike Selvey on Andy Flower.
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Old 23rd April 2011, 21:10   #63
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Praven Kumar IMO is not yet cooked for test cricket. He is highly unlikely to run through a top or middle order. He will often fail to bowl 10 overs in ODI's. He just can't work a batsman out in test. Neither is his pace good enough to bowl the wicket taking bouncer. Restricted abilities. Test match is far away for him. Munaf can, Zaheer will. and Nehra can run through a batting unit. I think Zaheer ,Munaf and Nehra are the way to go in England test series. But i have to say that would be terrible fielding side with the likes of Zaheer, Munaf and Nehra on the boundary. We will get to see some disgusting fielding. On the spin Harby is good enough for English batsmen. They apart from KP don't stride down the crease. Harby goes into the shell only when he is attacked. English batsmen won't come down the wicket in tests, because they don't do that even in ODI's. Ashwin is a good spinner. Close to the stumps. Nice height to get bounce. Tight line and length. Enough to trouble the English batsmen if given an opportunity. The way Munaf has improved in recent months, it is amazing. I would have Zaheer and Munaf by default during the oncoming English tour.
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Old 26th April 2011, 17:42   #64
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I hope they recall Pathan
I hope you having been watching him bowl in the IPL.

Virat took him to pieces 10 minutes back. He's having a terrible time, I'd take Agarkar over Pathan.
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Old 27th April 2011, 08:10   #65
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Duncan Fletcher, huh? Just as well you got the World Cup win under your belt before he trucked up I reckon.
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Old 27th April 2011, 08:11   #66
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New Indian coach is Fletcher.
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Old 27th April 2011, 08:13   #67
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If has he many opinions he won't last long in the job. The job is made for someone to stay in the background and does his job ala Kirsten. Fleming would have been quite good IMO
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Old 27th April 2011, 08:18   #68
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Well at least India have the fundamentals already there in two areas. A dodgy wicketkeeper who's a leader, and a non-spinning slow bowler who can contain and score a few runs down the order. They need to work on finding erratic bowlers with pace though.
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Duncan Fletcher OBE OAP

I'm reminded of when George Graham took over at Spurs..

Will be interesting to see the squad for the West Indies tour - will the superstars be convinced into a tour with not much on offer other than a downgrading of their stats ?

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Perhaps Troy Cooley working with Sreesanth to add 10mph ?
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Meh, not the worse choice, not near Chappell, if the players seemed happy with him when they met him, then it should be all right I think.

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Will be interesting to see the squad for the West Indies tour - will the superstars be convinced into a tour with not much on offer other than a downgrading of their stats ?

Flat pitches in West Indies --> Downgrading of stats?

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Haha, I thought as much. Not surprised Fletcher got the gig really, most of his work with England speaks for itself.
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Rahul Tandon speaking earlier on the BBC. They really wanted Flower and are not overwhelmed with this appointment.

I must say I'm really looking to the India tour and seeing Flower and Fletcher going head to head.
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Old 27th April 2011, 10:55   #73
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Coaches don't go head to head really, it's not like football, especially when he will be put with the players about 10 days before playing England.

And there's a different view on coaches in India compared with England, especially in the media. The role is overplayed in England.
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Coaches don't go head to head really, it's not like football, especially when he will be put with the players about 10 days before playing England.

And there's a different view on coaches in India compared with England, especially in the media. The role is overplayed in England.
The English media will be licking their lips re Fletchah coming over this summer - hopefully the press conferences will be hugely entertaining.
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Seems even the coach is too important to tour the Windies - good luck convincing the "galacticos" to get on the plane

"Leading up to that is an Indian tour of West Indies in June, featuring one Twenty20 international, five one-day internationals and three Tests. Fletcher may not be involved in that.

"He may not join the team in the West Indies as he has some prior commitments," Board of Control for Cricket in India secretary N Srinivasan said."
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Some bad trolling today, try harder then I'll bite.
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Some bad trolling today, try harder then I'll bite.
Meh - you said it yourself an underwhelming appointment. England fans will be ecstatic - Fletcher was poor post Ashes and it would have been a massive blow to lose Flower to a team coming to tour this summer.

A good day for England.
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Coaches don't go head to head really, it's not like football, especially when he will be put with the players about 10 days before playing England.

And there's a different view on coaches in India compared with England, especially in the media. The role is overplayed in England.
I was speaking metaphorically. The media and message boards will be comparing and contrasting.
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Some bad trolling today, try harder then I'll bite.
OK, some of my recent efforts haven't been all that but I thought my analogies with Fletcher's England obsessions weren't THAT bad.
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I'm warming to him. He's never going to be here after his 2 years anyway, so it's just tests he's gotta worry about and maintaining that number 1 spot and if we beat you, it'll **** off the English media and fans, what's better? Flower wants a break with England's schedule, India's is tougher so it wouldnt have been viable.

Most likely it'll only be Dravid who retires, if VVS can stay fit, during Fletcher's stay so it's not too much rebuilding.

The biggest ego's in the side are not the Dravid's, the Tendulkar's etc. It's the Virat Kohli's that will be need to be kept in shape, Kirsten did it, that'll be one of Fletcher's biggest tests, but then Dhoni is there and everyone respects him apart from Sree.
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