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Old 2nd August 2018, 03:16   #41
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We donít know what career Jones would have had if heíd stayed fit. We thought Finn was going to be a world beater and look whatís happened to him.

As for longevity, you canít have a long career without being good enough to be picked, series after series, year after year. I slightly agree about Cook, a batsman who has fairly consistently scored runs at the top of the order but you feel has never been dropped simply because there seems to be nobody else.

Anderson is a different case. Not just longevity and his high wicket tally but brilliant skills which he continues to develop, and ambition to keep getting better.
True enough. Itís more applicable to Broad than Anderson. And yes it is all speculation, but Jones did look the real deal. There was always something not quite right about Finn - even when he first broke into the team he was falling over with his deliveries
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Old 2nd August 2018, 04:35   #42
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We donít know what career Jones would have had if heíd stayed fit. We thought Finn was going to be a world beater and look whatís happened to him.

As for longevity, you canít have a long career without being good enough to be picked, series after series, year after year. I slightly agree about Cook, a batsman who has fairly consistently scored runs at the top of the order but you feel has never been dropped simply because there seems to be nobody else.

Anderson is a different case. Not just longevity and his high wicket tally but brilliant skills which he continues to develop, and ambition to keep getting better.
Jones is the biggest what if for me as an England player. He had a great action and all the attributes to be a great if it wasn't for the bizarre knee injury. Did well to ever play again. Quick, swung it and good control.
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Old 2nd August 2018, 04:50   #43
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True enough. Itís more applicable to Broad than Anderson. And yes it is all speculation, but Jones did look the real deal. There was always something not quite right about Finn - even when he first broke into the team he was falling over with his deliveries
Finn always had a horrible action. Trying to iron out the problems made it worse. He was the fast bowling hope of his generation and could have been picking up the reigns as the go to bowler now. The fact he isn't is going to leave us with a young and inexperienced seam attack at some point pretty soon.
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Old 2nd August 2018, 06:38   #44
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Well it’s not just his fault, but yeah it would have been great if he’d come good! Still, you never know..
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Old 2nd August 2018, 16:27   #45
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With Finn there was always some projection of what he could develop into. With Jones it was just a case of continuing what he did against one of the best teams of all-time.
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Old 2nd August 2018, 18:08   #46
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With Finn there was always some projection of what he could develop into. With Jones it was just a case of continuing what he did against one of the best teams of all-time.
I could make similar arguments about a bowler like Woakes missing out on the career he could've had, as being made here about Finn. Not only was he behind Anderson, he also had two or three badly timed injuries just as openings appeared for him. Not to say he'd have been a great, but he might have had a more fruitful English career than he has (in Tests).
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I could make similar arguments about a bowler like Woakes missing out on the career he could've had, as being made here about Finn. Not only was he behind Anderson, he also had two or three badly timed injuries just as openings appeared for him. Not to say he'd have been a great, but he might have had a more fruitful English career than he has (in Tests).
Woakes might also have had a much worse test career than he has. After a series of unimpressive tests here and there, he got back into the team when Stokes was injured and they wanted a like-for-like replacement (i.e., a seam-bowling all-rounder), at a point where he probably wouldn't have been selected had they just needed a seam bowler.
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