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Old 28th August 2015, 14:38   #221
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It hurts those who have season tickets, plan their lives around the fixtures and then find some moved at relatively short notice to suit the TV scheduling. My wife ends up missing a couple of West Ham games each year because they've been rescheduled to times for which she's booked other arrangements.
I think its usually done with several months notice. Mostly when matches are moved with short notice its because of the fa cup or especially all that Europa league nonsense.

At most its a very minor incovenience. I dont even think most matchgoers would want to back to the days when there was only football saturday at 3.
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Old 28th August 2015, 14:50   #222
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I think their advertisers might care quite a bit about viewing figures. When I worked in TV advertising, the number of eyeballs the service could attract was the key stat our clients wanted to know.
Of course viewer numbers matter, just not remotely as much as they do for the likes of ITV.

Its about subscribers for them. Otherwise they wouldnt pay 100 times more for premier league football than for most other things when the difference in viewers is far less. Football is the battering ram that creates a customer base they can sell other things. Indeed BT sport was likely created because sky began selling broadband.

Luckily for cricket that is clearly also a sport that attract customers as can be seen from their promoting the sport including silly thing like renaming their Channels afther the ashes contest.
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Old 28th August 2015, 15:01   #223
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I wonder if Harrison was being honest when he said he didn't want a franchise system? Everything else he said seemed to pint towards it. If each County is going to play 14 championship games this will most likely be two divisions of eight, so what is happening to two teams? More questions than answers from the interview.
They are not cutting two teams. That would be a far bigger issue than playing two less games. It would apparently most likely be a top division of eight and a lower division of ten where half the figures are only played once. Even-numbered divisions are itself a good thing making better use of time.
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Old 28th August 2015, 15:44   #224
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I think its usually done with several months notice. Mostly when matches are moved with short notice its because of the fa cup or especially all that Europa league nonsense.

At most its a very minor incovenience. I dont even think most matchgoers would want to back to the days when there was only football saturday at 3.
No, it's not a very minor inconvenience if you end up missing a game you've paid close on 50 for because the date's been changed. And most regular football attenders I know would definitely prefer Saturdays at 3,
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Old 28th August 2015, 15:49   #225
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I think its usually done with several months notice. Mostly when matches are moved with short notice its because of the fa cup or especially all that Europa league nonsense.

At most its a very minor incovenience. I dont even think most matchgoers would want to back to the days when there was only football saturday at 3.
I certainly would far rather go back to the days when there was only football on Saturdays at 3 (although we played Friday nights anyway).
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Old 28th August 2015, 18:01   #226
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Charlton's match against Fulham at the beginning of October has been moved from Saturday to Sunday at Noon. A month's notice pretty much.
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Charlton's match against Fulham at the beginning of October has been moved from Saturday to Sunday at Noon. A month's notice pretty much.
Thus, if you're a season ticket holder who has, quite reasonably, decided in advance that the Sunday would be a suitable free day to take the kids somewhere nice and booked tickets accordingly, you'll miss one of your team's matches (I don't know if Sky are planning to show this match but it illustrates the principle).
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Thus, if you're a season ticket holder who has, quite reasonably, decided in advance that the Sunday would be a suitable free day to take the kids somewhere nice and booked tickets accordingly, you'll miss one of your team's matches (I don't know if Sky are planning to show this match but it illustrates the principle).
They are. That's why it has been moved.
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Old 28th August 2015, 21:51   #229
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-c...ry/914799.html

More news from the backrooms of ECB towers - basically Graves and Harrison have learnt what David Morgan did, that you can't dictate to the counties your vision and expect to force it through.

I'm all for the tweaks to the T20 Blast - much better than trying to start again from scratch. And if there is some free-to-air interest, a 'Premier' division of the best nine counties, played more centrally in the summer months would surely be a better attraction.
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Old 29th August 2015, 19:13   #230
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More news from the backrooms of ECB towers - basically Graves and Harrison have learnt what David Morgan did, that you can't dictate to the counties your vision and expect to force it through.
So far there has been the "England must beat WI or else" edict, then KP to be selected, and the attempt to force an alien T20 model on the counties. Too many hasty, ill-considered moves.

Now they need to stop digging, or they will run the risk of being ignored. I'm not saying they have got everything wrong but that they should listen harder, and engage brain...

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Old 31st August 2015, 11:48   #231
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So far there has been the "England must beat WI or else" edict, then KP to be selected, and the attempt to force an alien T20 model on the counties. Too many hasty, ill-considered moves.
Yes, well this year there seem to have been several off-the-cuff statements, ideas written on the back of a fag packet etc, plus George Dobell's feverish imagination and wild rumours on message boards taken together as being the ECB's plans for the county game.

The fact is as far as I know they've actually said nothing official to alter their policy that the structure for 2013-2016 would be largely the same.
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Old 31st August 2015, 12:17   #232
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Interesting that on Cricket Writers on TV they started talking about the success that the T20 Finals Days was - then went into the normal - "should it be in a block" debate. Again, it was very one sided - and the comment was made "is it about the spectators - who is a small slice of revenue" or "tv income" which is greater.
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Old 31st August 2015, 12:27   #233
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I think they covered the important issue about block T20 in that the British weather and the cost of too many home games in too short a timescale could be a problem. There were more spectators through the gates than the previous year two seasons running.

There was a time when English cricket's governing body was run by out-of-touch old farts. Now it's run by cricket-clueless accountants.
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Old 31st August 2015, 15:16   #234
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I think they covered the important issue about block T20 in that the British weather and the cost of too many home games in too short a timescale could be a problem. There were more spectators through the gates than the previous year two seasons running.

There was a time when English cricket's governing body was run by out-of-touch old farts. Now it's run by cricket-clueless accountants.
Tacitly supported by a largely gormless bunch of cricket writers whose prime role seems to be ensuring that they stay in work. George Dobell is an honourable exception.

Basically who gives a f*** about the supporters?
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The third party involved is the players. Guess what? They don't like the 2015 format. You can't please everyone all of the time, the ECB will be damned whichever option they decide upon.
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Old 1st September 2015, 19:06   #236
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The players are working too hard. Boo-hoo.

At the risk of linking the Four Yorkshiremen sketch to this post, they've never had it so good. I wish my boss would let me work shorter hours for the same pay.
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The players are working too hard. Boo-hoo.

At the risk of linking the Four Yorkshiremen sketch to this post, they've never had it so good. I wish my boss would let me work shorter hours for the same pay.
Wonder what the old timers think? They had to play 28 three day championship games plus festival and tour matches too. Bowlers regularly got through a thousand over a Summer.
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And that was just by lunchtime on the first day of the season!
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Wonder what the old timers think? They had to play 28 three day championship games plus festival and tour matches too. Bowlers regularly got through a thousand over a Summer.
And them were all 8-ball overs up a slope into the wind
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The players are working too hard. Boo-hoo.

At the risk of linking the Four Yorkshiremen sketch to this post, they've never had it so good. I wish my boss would let me work shorter hours for the same pay.
I think they'd be working as many hours, just that they'd be practicing, preparing and recovering rather than going through the motions on the pitch or sat on a bus.
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